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06-29-2011 09:02 PM #1 spartan1 (Member)
Thread for Creating and Using Multiple Msn Adcenter Accounts

hey guys,
I was hoping to start a thread on using multiple adcenter accounts. I was using like 10 accounts at one time and about 5 took hold (getting impressions), then they banned them all in a couple weeks cause they supposedly decided they didnt like the lp. They probably tracked by same domain and/or same home ip,

When I started a new campaign on a new account, now it gets banned immediately or doesn't get impressions even using a new domain so they probably got my ip black listed or something.

Was reading about the creating google adwords accounts method thread on this forum and it said something about using a vpn or vmware? Would this be good for msn accounts too? or are there different options for creating accounts from different ips (not sure proxies will work like from packetflip or squidproxies, im guessing you put up red flag when/if this is detected.)

Hopefully this will be a solid thread with good tips and a variety of ways to create and run multiple adcenter accounts and I will include updates on this and new ideas. Thanks for any input and contribution you can make on this topic and good luck.


07-05-2011 01:06 AM #2 jspecify (Member)

Hey Spartan,

In my experiences with Ad Center I have never had to use any of the advanced methods necessary for creating new unbanned ad words accounts. I believe ad center has a new policy that they do not inform you of when you open a new account. You have to call them and tell them your ads are not being served. They will may suggest it is because you do not have enough keywords / other bullshit, but tell them to check your billing status, and once they see that your cc or payment method is verified they should turn your account on for you.

I created a new account the other day and I called them and they turned it on and I started receiving impressions within 24 hours.

Hope that helps mate


07-21-2011 10:20 PM #3 spartan1 (Member)

hmm adcenter has never been that helpful to me after calling them like over 20 times, just reach the entry level peeps who tell you to raise your bids and add negative keywords who have no real knowledge of the system. tried loggin in w packetflip proxies which they wont allow, theyre probly on to most proxys out there, what about creating or loggin in w library ip? iprental maybe, tried an account w iprental the $10 day pass but the account got botched in acouple days (couldnt log in) maybe it was another factor tho, ugh, any other ideas?


07-22-2011 01:59 AM #4 polarbacon (Moderator)

ya if your usa....get a biz broadband account you can buy static ip's.....I have 5 thru comcast costs like 20/month(you can get more).....you need to hard switch stuff imo.....you set up multiple routers each with its own ip....ideally you should be setup on diff computers....or at the least set up vmware.......most proxys can be detected....static ips are just that a "real ip"


08-18-2011 01:36 AM #5 illya (Member)
adcenter woes?

Spartan1,

You solve your adcenter probs? I havent.

I too have the same issues. I have been able to make new adcenter accts easily for the last year, but recently I have not been successful.

I have liked the idea of paypal (and used it exclusively in the past) as I thought I was anonymous behind it, but I found out paypal will share your name and address.

My most recent attempt: new ip (used my 3g phone), new paypal acct, new cc on the paypal, new address. The address on the cc matched the address on adcenter. BOOM. Killed the next day. (no campaign).

How they may have tripped me up:
1. I was wondering if I need a new real phone number. I now use a fake one since when I used a real one, they never called anyway.
2. the name on adcenter didnt match the name on paypal.
3. something on my pc (where I would need to go the Vmware route to circumvent.

Ideas?


09-02-2011 01:44 PM #6 illya (Member)

OK, to address the above 3 possibilities I came up with, I matched my paypal and adcenter billing info, used a new phone, and logged in from a library.

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Here's what happened on my latest attempt...


I opened a new paypal acct, and used the same CC as on my old paypal, but I changed the billing address. I asked paypal and they say they only give name and billing address, not financial info.

I opened an acct at a local library (so I not only had a new IP but no other tracking info could be tied to me).

i used my real name but the new billing address, so it matched the paypal info. (I figured they wouldnt blacklist a name only as that is not very unique (but may blacklists a name+address combo). So my name and billing address from paypal and adcenter matched.

I created a blog that had no affiliate links.

after 3 days of no traffic, I asked on the live chat why no traffic? They said all new accts need to be 'verified' (ive got this response the last 3 accts Ive opened). And that I need to CALL to get it verifiied. Shortly afterwards, I can NO LONGER login!

I call and they are very sweet and say nothing is wrong, but pls verified your billing info. I tell me it all and they as for the last 4 digits of the CC in paypal. I tell them (as I dont THINK they can tell if its true or not). They then as what is my business model. I told them that I just wanted to start small and dont expect to make money at first, just build the blog, and pay for some traffic to 'jump start' the page. She says great, well send you an email in a few days.

Boom. Email says go f3@$k yourself and die. (with no hint as to the prob of course).

WHERE did I screw up?


09-02-2011 02:38 PM #7 gts6 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by illya View Post
WHERE did I screw up?
by trying to do normal busineess with the neanderthals at microsoft bing.

its a frustrating experience.

what phone did you use dial them when you called them? they could have used your phone # to either link an account with another one, or see that its a different phone # than you supplied, not sure if that would matter or not.

another thing could be if someone else used that library computer to sign up to bing also.
did you create a fresh user account on that library computer?


09-03-2011 08:50 PM #8 illya (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by gts6 View Post
by trying to do normal busineess with the neanderthals at microsoft bing.

its a frustrating experience.

what phone did you use dial them when you called them? they could have used your phone # to either link an account with another one, or see that its a different phone # than you supplied, not sure if that would matter or not.

another thing could be if someone else used that library computer to sign up to bing also.
did you create a fresh user account on that library computer?
I didnt use a 'fresh' phone. And I wondered if the library IP was contaminated, though thats not too likely. And no, I didnt create a new user, as I couldnt even enable private browsing on their machine.

I'll do the sae thing but rather than a WP blog, Ill run some ads for a local pizza shop. I'm gonna beat these basta@$rds yet.


09-04-2011 05:38 AM #9 gts6 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by illya View Post
I didnt use a 'fresh' phone. And I wondered if the library IP was contaminated, though thats not too likely. And no, I didnt create a new user, as I couldnt even enable private browsing on their machine.

I'll do the sae thing but rather than a WP blog, Ill run some ads for a local pizza shop. I'm gonna beat these basta@$rds yet.
it could be the computer then, most likely cookies (or more likely some supercookies/evercookies) that are on there from someone elses account


09-04-2011 06:10 AM #10 gts6 (Member)

& it could also be related to the info you gave them for billing. distance of billing info and phone # from the ip address you used, etc..


12-16-2011 01:21 AM #11 vidivo (Member)

wow that shit is crazy.. having similar issues and i have no idea wtf is going on..


12-20-2011 01:17 AM #12 shermanchoo (Member)

i have a few running adcenter accounts. adcenter is way more lax then adwords, for now.

For adwords, i actually started purchasing new notebooks, macbooks to run campaigns on.
Adwords tracks browsers which is a unique finger print. VMWARE is not good enough for Adwords once they have a radar lock on your browser settings,
time zone, which is a unique fingerprint of your PC. so even if you clear cookies, adobe flash cookies, run VMWARE, its not enuf.
Adwords getting smarter these days in Dec2012.

back to adcenter. all you need for adcenter is new REAL credit cards from different banks. You cannot use VCC or PREPAID cards with ADCENTER.
the account will get banned, and you need to do a dance with their billing department team which is a complete waste of time. You could lose 7 days
just going back and forth, and 7 days means losing $100s if not $1000s of dollars profits daily. plus you may not even get the account to work after
all that time wasted.

For adcenter..
The zip code must match the REAL CREDIT CARD address.
The acutal address - anything u like
The phone number - anything u like.
name, anything u like.

use VMWARE, its ok with Adcenter.

use mobile broadband with a roaming IP. works beautiful for me.

think thats bout it. seems easy now, but back when i was testing, it was lots of man hours wasted.


01-08-2012 08:51 AM #13 tical (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by shermanchoo View Post
i have a few running adcenter accounts. adcenter is way more lax then adwords, for now.

For adwords, i actually started purchasing new notebooks, macbooks to run campaigns on.
Adwords tracks browsers which is a unique finger print. VMWARE is not good enough for Adwords once they have a radar lock on your browser settings,
time zone, which is a unique fingerprint of your PC. so even if you clear cookies, adobe flash cookies, run VMWARE, its not enuf.
Adwords getting smarter these days in Dec2012.

back to adcenter. all you need for adcenter is new REAL credit cards from different banks. You cannot use VCC or PREPAID cards with ADCENTER.
the account will get banned, and you need to do a dance with their billing department team which is a complete waste of time. You could lose 7 days
just going back and forth, and 7 days means losing $100s if not $1000s of dollars profits daily. plus you may not even get the account to work after
all that time wasted.

For adcenter..
The zip code must match the REAL CREDIT CARD address.
The acutal address - anything u like
The phone number - anything u like.
name, anything u like.

use VMWARE, its ok with Adcenter.

use mobile broadband with a roaming IP. works beautiful for me.

think thats bout it. seems easy now, but back when i was testing, it was lots of man hours wasted.
This is great info. I think I have the same issue... I've setup a bunch of campaigns, bid very high, and still get 0 impressions. It's been days already and not a single impression. I can see their adidx bot hitting my page with the keywords I chose but nothing ever happens after that. QS doesn't even update. For every campaign it just stays blank.

Do you know if adcenter tracks the IP of a particular domain that may have got your account banned? Just want to know if I need to swap IPs or just domains when creating new campaigns on another account.


01-08-2012 08:02 PM #14 jonemd (Member)

I don't know if some people like making things overly complicated but.......

I've had a good number of accounts banned in the past and whenever I set up a new account I simply use a new CC and make sure I use a new "user account" on my computer. Works every time for me.


01-14-2012 08:39 PM #15 illya (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jonemd View Post
I don't know if some people like making things overly complicated but.......

I've had a good number of accounts banned in the past and whenever I set up a new account I simply use a new CC and make sure I use a new "user account" on my computer. Works every time for me.
I'm sure you read all my detailed posts on my past adcenter issues, so I wont bore you with my 'overly complicated' analysis.

Thanks for straightening us out.


01-16-2012 02:14 PM #16 jonemd (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by illya View Post
I'm sure you read all my detailed posts on my past adcenter issues, so I wont bore you with my 'overly complicated' analysis.

Thanks for straightening us out.
Hey, all I can tell you is that if I have an account banned then all I do is create a new user on my computer and get a new credit card number. Works every time. I never understood the need of a new IP etc....

If it doesn't work for you then I feel for you........


01-16-2012 04:31 PM #17 vidivo (Member)

I think i figured out what it was guys. I was using my same tracking link for my prosper.. actually i had a different link from a domain, but it was being redirected through the same prosper link through the redirection process... once i direct linked, the account remained live but under review.. so fingures crossed this time


01-16-2012 08:23 PM #18 illya (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jonemd View Post
Hey, all I can tell you is that if I have an account banned then all I do is create a new user on my computer and get a new credit card number. Works every time. I never understood the need of a new IP etc....

If it doesn't work for you then I feel for you........
NP. I'm just a little pissed about this issue, as I've been struggling with this for a while.


01-17-2012 09:31 AM #19 jonemd (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by illya View Post
NP. I'm just a little pissed about this issue, as I've been struggling with this for a while.
Just a thought, are you using the same domains/domains that are hosted on the same server as in previous banned accounts? - I know a lot of people that think it's ok to just buy a new domain name but if they use the same server, you will get banned. I think even just getting your hosting company to issue a new IP address for your server should get round that issue.


01-24-2012 01:43 AM #20 illya (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jonemd View Post
Just a thought, are you using the same domains/domains that are hosted on the same server as in previous banned accounts? - I know a lot of people that think it's ok to just buy a new domain name but if they use the same server, you will get banned. I think even just getting your hosting company to issue a new IP address for your server should get round that issue.
Good idea. Thanks for reminding me.


01-24-2012 04:44 AM #21 vidivo (Member)

Yeah i can def. confirm what it is after going through like 5 new credit cards.. LOL

I was being linked through the same SERVER. I can almost say this with 100 percent backing because i tried all things and made sure i was cleaning cookies, new address what not, but the only thing that was the same was my final redirect, which is my tracking url. The moment i used a different link, straight up network link, my account wasnt disabled next day and i actually got impressions, however, they are reviewing it i believe so will still need to contact them maybe but it wasnt disabled after creation like the other ones


02-04-2012 02:18 AM #22 illya (Member)

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