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Today: Two FB Accounts - Tier 1 - Pin Submit - 500% ROI (33)

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Holy crap!! That's some ROI!

Wow....

Thanks for sharing Tim!

For anyone wanting to get started with sweeps on FB, do check out some of the threads in his signature, and leave in those threads any questions you may have - stickupkid's super helpful.

Here are some threads relevant to running sweeps on FB:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-all-verticals (old post but still relevant)

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...s-sweeps-on-fb

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...045#post316045

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...nt-No-Cloaking

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-all-verticals



Amy

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Nice share! Thanks alot, (Gonna try it out, haha)

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Awesome that feeling of printing money and 400% ROI to be exact

Would love if you can update this in week or so how's your ROI and revenues look. Every time I've personally started with a strong ROI Iv never been able to maintain it beyond a few days so Im really curious to see how it goes for you

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I will try to update once in a while! Ofcourse I had days with “excesses” to 200% or even 800%, but on the long run it’s around 400.

Low budgets, ads barely have negative comments and audience is quite big.


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Haha love this stuff, sooo much opportunity still out there!

Question time, when you say its all about CTR (I definitely believe this!)

What should the audience at home be striving for in your opinion?

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Just to win stuff. IMHO every woman 35+ could be interested to win online supermarket vouchers. As long as you make it convincing without misleading them “they already won”.

This generation just knows internet a little bit, so they aren’t that savvy honestly...


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What is the best affiliate network for Pin Submits in general?

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The best is kinda hard to tell, but some decent ones are; Clickdealer, Mundo Media, Online Activity, Advidi, iMailo, Gotzha, VIP Response for example...


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Hey stickupkid, is there a reason why you only choose pin submits? will something like SOI email address offers yield same results?

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Depends on geo, margins are in general better with pins with my approach!

Some geo’s dont allow pins, so lead gen is the only option.

Difference with lead gen you can use the word “free” (except US), because an email submit is free. Pins cost money so avoid the word since it will only cause troublen somewhere (negative comments, advertiser angry).


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I see, when searching for pin submits. Is there a specific one you go for? (MO flow, MT flow, or MSISDN flow) or do they all work on facebook.

I'm thinking about giving your strategy a try ( might start a follow along). For setup is just 1. pin submit offer 2. relevant facebook page 3. facebook ad

and I can either direct link or use a simple clean non aggressive survey lander. is this correct?

Also, in terms of using a lander, is it better to use the affiliate link on the CTA button or can I use the Voluum campaign link. or does it not matter? I just heard from somewhere that facebook doesn't like redirects or something of that sort.

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I recently burned an entire BM with 5 ad accounts just trying to figure out which part of my ads were non-compliant (Voluum tracking URL).

You probably shouldn't set any Voluum tracking URL in your ad's destination link. Using their visit tracking pixel solves this problem.

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Welcome to 2015 ... Never use Voluum links on Facebook.

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Pin submits convert best. The others I mostly skip unless some advertiser has an “agressive” flow. Just ask for CR, it also depends on geo.

Prelander is needed yes, and put the aff link at the CTA button after the questions yes!


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Interesting thread... Are you still banking with this method? You created a simple question&answers landing page for it? What is the final price for user - and do I understand it correctly, they pay just to get a chance to win a voucher?

Thanks

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Still doing great, because of "big" scaling ROI dropped ofcourse.

That's correct kinda, they can win an amount of money, not per se paid in vouchers, mostly just on their bank account.

*edit - at the moment reaching x.xxx daily almost.

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Update as requested:

CPC's still average 0,06ct, pushing xxxx clicks a day now and barely touching the ad sets. Some days I cut an "expensive" ad and launch 3 new ones where I hope that at least one of the new ads will hit 0,06ct or less. ROI still low/mid XXX!

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Solid results. What kind of CPC do you decide to cut the ad at? 0.10, 0.12, more? I assume you launch new ads in the same adset, 3 identical or you're testing to find new images?

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Honestly I cut everything below 0,10ct (after 48 hours approx). I launch 3 new images as a new campaign, but with exact same settings at the other campaigns.
Main reason I don't want to disturb running campaigns/ad sets while they are performing well. If I add an ad set within a campaign it might screw the other ads.

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So they know they CAN win some money and are ready to pay money for a chance to win? You said they can win "online supermarket vouchers" before, not some money directly to their bank account?

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The angle of the campaign is; "Win a Tesco voucher", but in fact it's not a real voucher (since Tesco doesn't have vouchers, or maybe they have now) but just a cash prize.
An angle with cash prizes isn't that strong as a supermarket voucher, that's why the advertiser is using brands to pump up the conversion ratio.

A lot of people unsubscribe once they notice it's not for free (during the whole funnel, the word "free" not been used), around 20-30% never know/knew they pay for it, that's where the advertiser is earning it's money from. That long tail could go on for months/years...

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I see that makes sense... And you get money only for those who paid, right? And are there actually people who knew they will pay and paid consciously or there are only those who have not noticed it at all as you said?

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Yes, per subsciber advertisers pay a fixed fee. Could be 0.50ct or 20 euro, depending on geo.

Not much people will pay counsciously.


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Ah and when they "subscribe" they already have to pay first payment right? You that is enough to get commission? And do they have to send some confirmation sms, or enter a pin from sms to subscribe?

Thx

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Yes, correct. Sometimes pin, or reply on a sms for example. Depends on the flow.

All of these offers run a flow which has been approved by the law. Yes, there are some cowboys but they ruin the market unfotunately. Avoid them.

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Ahh now I know what exactly you are doing, because some of my friends just shared that he won a voucher with lidl.com

I even found a landing page, it looks good enough But hmmmm...its a real scam, I dont know, little bit toooo blackhat for me. You literally scam people and they lose money. Its similar to fake virus and tech support pay per call...

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Hi stickupkid

Thanks for the share!
I'm using FB to generate some client leads in another niche, I hav a few qs to you(or anyone else who can answer):
1) Is it ok to link to an affilliate offer directly from a FB ad? Does FB allows this?
2) Or Is it always better to use a Landing Page where people arrive after clicking on Fb ads?
3) Shall I do something different for Fb Ads for Affilliates Versus FB ads for generating new client leads for my marketing business?

Thanks

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1) Depends if their is a redirect and/or if the domain is flagged yes or no. But most of time it will result in trouble.

2) Most of time it gives better results, but for sure not always. Offers with high payouts often need a good prelander to let consumers convince they continue in the funnel.

3) Whatever you think would work best? Bit of a broad question man.

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Hello,thanks for the sharing.
1) About facebook don't like redirect link,is that mean the link on the facebook ad to landing page, or the link on the landing page to the offer page, or both?
2) And if the affiliate link is redirect,how to make it static?
3) About the sweepstakes offer flow, if it is lead gen like email submit which is free,how can offer advertiser earn money from that?
Thank you!

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1) the link you put in the ad manager
2) you can't, just don't put it in the ad manager, host a prelander on your own domain for example and put the aff link after the CTA button
3) they sell the data gathered to certain advertisers

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No cloaking, so it means you have virgin offer lp link, right?


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Correct!

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Thank you for the answer,it solved all I am confusing.

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