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06-06-2017 12:50 PM
#1
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)
FB - Tier 2 Geo - Pin Submit - 300% ROI - No tools
Hellowwwww STM,
Just a quick and positive note for the ones who are struggling still with AM, FB Advertising etc etc.
For some weeks I have been running a Tier 2 Geo with only 1 mil. inhabitants (I reached 230.539 unique ones with my FB ads
).
I used the FB ad manager to keep track of the ads/clicks and the login of the direct advertiser to see the conversions. Besides that I used getty images and instagram to grab some good images.
Campaign: LIDL voucher - pin submit
Targeting: women 30+, who liked LIDL
After some testing and finding the best images I targeted women 30+ only, without LIDL to reach a bigger audience.
Ad setup: Besides finding the good images and launch a FB page with some reference to "LIDL" it's just a matter of; "Ladies, Here Is Your Chance To Win A LIDL Voucher" (above the image) & "Click Now and Start Here" (below the image)
Tip: use emoticons in the text and the "description" box to create attraction - > to reach a high CTR - > low CPC cost!
Stats:

Cost: 1850 euro
Revenue: 5490 euro
Reach: 230.539
Clicks: 6226
Conversions: 1220
As you can see, being straight forward pays off (too). Go get 'em!
06-06-2017 01:01 PM
#2
wotchi (Member)
Awesome, the question here is how to keep that for long enough as facebook will probably kill you quick, any tips you might share on how to run pins in FB? cloacking, comment control? etc etc
06-06-2017 01:17 PM
#3
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)
My ads have a very good reputation, probably because it's not agressive. That's key, not being flagged or raise alarmbells avoiding "spam reports" or too much bad emoticons or complaints. On the long term this will make your account stable too! No tools used, so no cloaking etc...
06-06-2017 02:16 PM
#4
sonnytee (Member)
awesome! ...
I do pretty good with facebook as well ... I use a video ad and messenger chatbot.... so when they comment on the ad they get the link in the messenger.. so its bascially 1. comment "THANK YOU ... 2. Like this Video 3. share this video
06-06-2017 02:34 PM
#5
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
sonnytee
awesome! ...
I do pretty good with facebook as well ... I use a video ad and messenger chatbot.... so when they comment on the ad they get the link in the messenger.. so its bascially 1. comment "THANK YOU ... 2. Like this Video 3. share this video
Interesting setup! (Y)
06-08-2017 08:53 AM
#6
lsolovey (Member)
Do you used direct-linking or landing pages?
06-08-2017 09:18 AM
#7
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
lsolovey
Do you used direct-linking or landing pages?
Direct link if advertiser included a short survey before confirm page, otherwise I put my own short survey on own domain in front of the confirm page.
06-11-2017 03:06 PM
#8
lsolovey (Member)
1. Are you optimizing using FB pixel?
2. What's the ads frequency like? Geo must be kind of small, isn't CPC skyrocketing?
Btw, thanks man. I always love your posts. Good info, straight to the point.
06-11-2017 05:27 PM
#9
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
lsolovey
1. Are you optimizing using FB pixel?
2. What's the ads frequency like? Geo must be kind of small, isn't CPC skyrocketing?
Btw, thanks man. I always love your posts. Good info, straight to the point.
1. no, stupid right?
2. ad frequency is around 1,02, cpc's are very low (matter of good images/videos!)
Thanks, will try to contribute more ofcourse :-)
06-12-2017 07:30 AM
#10
gdpdfe (Member)
hello, I target PT, but small audience this cpc is very hight .
06-12-2017 07:46 AM
#11
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
gdpdfe
hello, I target PT, but small audience this cpc is very hight .
Then you need better ad/images/videos.
06-12-2017 08:17 AM
#12
lsolovey (Member)
My FB account has been blocked. Real account.
What shall I do now? I tried to create another account but FB blocked it as well, because my phone number and other details matched.
What is the solution for FB account that I can use for FB Ads.
Please guide 
06-12-2017 08:42 AM
#13
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
lsolovey
My FB account has been blocked. Real account.
What shall I do now? I tried to create another account but FB blocked it as well, because my phone number and other details matched.
What is the solution for FB account that I can use for FB Ads.
Please guide

Here on STM you won't find much info about new FB accounts, try BlackHatWorld or Warriorforum. Good luck!
Perhaps someone will send you a PM now too with a solution ;-)
06-12-2017 08:52 AM
#14
sonnytee (Member)

Originally Posted by
lsolovey
My FB account has been blocked. Real account.
What shall I do now? I tried to create another account but FB blocked it as well, because my phone number and other details matched.
What is the solution for FB account that I can use for FB Ads.
Please guide

Go to an Internet cafe or use VPN and open a new FB account and NEVER login using your home IP again unless you use ADESPRESSO or something like that ... You have to use a PREPAID credit card that has never been used on FB... you can use your real name .. that does not matter
To warm up your account ... like some pages and join some groups and add some friends ...do some like campaigns in Philippines and India (Cheap likes) for about 10 days at 5 bucks a day...
Then use the account like normal...
What offer got your account blocked?
06-12-2017 08:58 AM
#15
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
sonnytee
Go to an Internet cafe or use VPN and open a new FB account and NEVER login using your home IP again unless you use ADESPRESSO or something like that ... You have to use a PREPAID credit card that has never been used on FB... you can use your real name .. that does not matter
To warm up your account ... like some pages and join some groups and add some friends ...do some like campaigns in Philippines and India (Cheap likes) for about 10 days at 5 bucks a day...
Then use the account like normal...
What offer got your account blocked?
I wouldn't recommend prepaid cc's tho'.
06-12-2017 09:06 AM
#16
sonnytee (Member)

Originally Posted by
stickupkid
I wouldn't recommend prepaid cc's tho'.
True..
I had a question for you...
I have been looking all over for those supermarket offers.... I cant find any on the networks Im on ... can you point me in the right direction? ..
06-12-2017 12:08 PM
#17
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
sonnytee
True..
I had a question for you...
I have been looking all over for those supermarket offers.... I cant find any on the networks Im on ... can you point me in the right direction? ..
Try Adcombo, VIP Response, Online Activity, F5 Media, Avazu, Advidi uhmmmmmm Clickdealer, Mundo Media etc...
06-12-2017 02:28 PM
#18
imailo (Member)

Originally Posted by
sonnytee
True..
I had a question for you...
I have been looking all over for those supermarket offers.... I cant find any on the networks Im on ... can you point me in the right direction? ..
Nice topic stickupkid! iMailo also has supermarket offers. If you have any questions feel free to contact me ebodde_imailo
06-12-2017 03:48 PM
#19
sonnytee (Member)

Originally Posted by
stickupkid
Try Adcombo, VIP Response, Online Activity, F5 Media, Avazu, Advidi uhmmmmmm Clickdealer, Mundo Media etc...
HAHAHA Literally every network (Except Avazu) That I am not on! LOL man! I better get to work! Click Dealer was SUPER weird ... I got this Val guy asking me questions on skype
then ... Nothing ... so I called and they said they would look in to it... and NOTHING .. LOL
I just signed up to Affiliaxe (Their Rep found me on this thread! haha) and I just looked and they actually have a nice line up of them!
06-12-2017 04:52 PM
#20
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
sonnytee
HAHAHA Literally every network (Except Avazu) That I am not on! LOL man! I better get to work! Click Dealer was SUPER weird ... I got this Val guy asking me questions on skype
then ... Nothing ... so I called and they said they would look in to it... and NOTHING .. LOL
I just signed up to Affiliaxe (Their Rep found me on this thread! haha) and I just looked and they actually have a nice line up of them!
Go got 'em!
06-13-2017 04:42 AM
#21
anhtitbeo (Member)

Originally Posted by
stickupkid
My ads have a very good reputation, probably because it's not agressive. That's key, not being flagged or raise alarmbells avoiding "spam reports" or too much bad emoticons or complaints. On the long term this will make your account stable too! No tools used, so no cloaking etc...
From what I heard, facebook is really negative about the tracker link of aff network because they don't like the way aff networks redirect users to different offers based on location. How did you pass that without cloaking?
06-13-2017 05:20 AM
#22
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
anhtitbeo
From what I heard, facebook is really negative about the tracker link of aff network because they don't like the way aff networks redirect users to different offers based on location. How did you pass that without cloaking?
Make sure the aff tracker+campaign domain aren't geo locked. Just static!
You are right geo locked trackers almost never come through..
06-13-2017 05:41 AM
#23
anhtitbeo (Member)

Originally Posted by
stickupkid
Make sure the aff tracker+campaign domain aren't geo locked. Just static!
You are right geo locked trackers almost never come through..
Is there a chance that even non-geo-locked tracker being rejected by facebook review team just because the domain of the tracker is in facebook blacklist for history of geo locking? I mean even if you can somehow make your aff tracker link static, it still shares the same parent domain with other tracker link in the same network that use geo-locking, doesn't it?
06-13-2017 08:00 AM
#24
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
anhtitbeo
Is there a chance that even non-geo-locked tracker being rejected by facebook review team just because the domain of the tracker is in facebook blacklist for history of geo locking? I mean even if you can somehow make your aff tracker link static, it still shares the same parent domain with other tracker link in the same network that use geo-locking, doesn't it?
I can remember an affiliate tracking link being blocked yes, but most likely campaign domains getting blocked.
At the end the campaign domain is more important.
I am pretty sure bit.ly links won't get blocked by FB for example, if someone for some reason wants to put that in (perhaps with a enterprise edition, to measure things).
06-19-2017 02:08 AM
#25
sonnytee (Member)
Ok so here we go ... My first shot at your method, Grocery Store Voucher Tier 1 Country MOBILE camp payout $2.50, Page Named somewhat aggressively (*store rewards), ran 3 unique images and 3 unique videos 2 ad sets duplicated each ad 3 times for a total of 18 ads
.... spent 25 for data .... Optimized by cutting devices, States, Gender and certain ages
heres where we sit today in ... $25 a day budget 1 adset 1 ad ...GREEN for today ... Break even for the Camp... No Bot yet ... but I will later 
@stickupkid what would you do next? Im only running the top ad .. the bottom 2 are off
Oh! and Im running to 2 landers with Funnelflux and 2 offers... already got rid of 1 offer ..


SONNY
06-19-2017 09:12 AM
#26
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)
Hi Sonny,
Cool to see you started with somehow "my method"! Your ad with relevancy 10 is ofcourse marvelous, dont change anything on that. I would also keep your budget for couple of days, it could be you cpc will drop even more which makes your campaigns going into GREEN already.
The CR on the offer is killer, 20 clicks - 10 conversions. Don't think you can beat that with any other offer, or difference will be little.
Somewhere in between you seem to lose too much. Can I conclude you send 75 clicks from FB to your landers, and 20 clicks on the campaign?
It's not a bad CTR then, but still room for improvement to come into the real GREEN!
Also I would recommend to check why your ad has a relevancy of 10, and find more similar kinda images. If an ad goes to 0,06 or even less you will reach a very healthy ROI!
How are people reacting on the ad? Positive comments etc?
06-19-2017 10:02 AM
#27
sonnytee (Member)
yup tagging friends and commenting like normal... oh and the clicks you see are not LINK CLICKS ... look to the right and you will see 8 clicks.. the ctr on the lander is 78.7 percent and the offer is converting at 30% now
06-19-2017 11:04 AM
#28
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
sonnytee
yup tagging friends and commenting like normal... oh and the clicks you see are not LINK CLICKS ... look to the right and you will see 8 clicks.. the ctr on the lander is 78.7 percent and the offer is converting at 30% now
But 8 clicks and 10 conversions...?
06-19-2017 02:39 PM
#29
sonnytee (Member)
lol who knows man... maybe some people copy and pasted ... so basically you are saying to keep doing what im doing and start to scale in a couple days?
06-19-2017 02:46 PM
#30
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
sonnytee
lol who knows man... maybe some people copy and pasted ... so basically you are saying to keep doing what im doing and start to scale in a couple days?
Well first check out if the campaign is right or something wrong with tracking? 8 clicks and 10 conversions isn't good. Something is wrong.
06-19-2017 05:35 PM
#31
sonnytee (Member)

Originally Posted by
stickupkid
Well first check out if the campaign is right or something wrong with tracking? 8 clicks and 10 conversions isn't good. Something is wrong.
Thats not all the clicks ... I ran 2 ad sets ... the screen shot is only one ... the tracking is fine
06-19-2017 05:45 PM
#32
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)
Aaah oke, it's quite hard to give tips if data shown isn't fully complete ofcourse hehe! Let me know if you have new updates.
07-26-2017 06:11 AM
#33
rostropowich (Member)

Originally Posted by
sonnytee
awesome! ...
I do pretty good with facebook as well ... I use a video ad and messenger chatbot.... so when they comment on the ad they get the link in the messenger.. so its bascially 1. comment "THANK YOU ... 2. Like this Video 3. share this video
don't understand. Anyone can explain what he's doing? What messenger chatbot? What does it do and why is it benefitial?
07-26-2017 07:22 AM
#34
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
rostropowich
don't understand. Anyone can explain what he's doing? What messenger chatbot? What does it do and why is it benefitial?
You can advertise in the messenger bot. This gives you more space to explain a product perhaps, and you have a bit more possibilities with links without getting banned too soon ;-).
04-04-2018 08:58 AM
#35
alemona (Member)
Hi stickupkid,
I would like to run sweepstakes (MediaMarkt voucher) on FB. I would like to ask you, if is necessary to use a landing page.
Thank you.
04-04-2018 09:10 AM
#36
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
alemona
Hi stickupkid,
I would like to run sweepstakes (MediaMarkt voucher) on FB. I would like to ask you, if is necessary to use a landing page.
Thank you.
Yeah, direct link to the submit page won't convert that good most likely.
04-04-2018 09:22 AM
#37
alemona (Member)
Thank you!
04-05-2019 11:31 AM
#38
windgod123 (Member)
Thanks for sharing this @stickupkid. I was looking for information and now I am setting up a few affiliate network with good sweeps offers.
Any good and reliable networks you can recommend? much appreciated !!
04-05-2019 11:41 AM
#39
maynzie (Moderator)
Any good and reliable networks you can recommend? much appreciated !!
Gotzha, wewemedia, yepads, clickdealer etc good place to start but once you start getting some traction can push towards direct advertisers
04-30-2019 09:24 AM
#40
dkdaniel11 (Member)
@stickupkidCan you show example of landing page for sweeps. I ask them to submit details on my lander and then sweep landing page also ask for details. That's not cool, I think.
02-14-2020 03:45 PM
#41
ninsingh (Member)
Hey stickupkid,
Are facebook's bots checking Landing Page, if flow will be like this:
1.AD CLICK from FB ads --> 2.Prelander (quiz 4 questions for example) here is the bot right now, what he will do now ? He will just check that prelanding and will quit or he will take CTA button and press it to land on Landing Page with offer? (3) ---> 3.Landing page.
02-14-2020 03:48 PM
#42
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
ninsingh
Hey stickupkid,
Are facebook's bots checking Landing Page, if flow will be like this:
1.AD CLICK from FB ads --> 2.Prelander (quiz 4 questions for example) here is the bot right now, what he will do now ? He will just check that prelanding and will quit or he will take CTA button and press it to land on Landing Page with offer? (3) ---> 3.Landing page.
Technically it doesnt have to finish the steps (depends on the structure of the prelander ofcourse). Just crawl the files for outgoing links and check those. They do so with keywords too!
02-15-2020 01:58 AM
#43
fuyuzhelianmeng (Member)

Originally Posted by
stickupkid
Make sure the aff tracker+campaign domain aren't geo locked. Just static!
You are right geo locked trackers almost never come through..
Hey Stickupkid,
Just a quick newbie question: What does geo locked mean?
Does it mean the domain and tracker was put in the blacklist of FB?
Thanks.
02-25-2020 12:00 PM
#44
onlybest_KMA (Member)
Hi! Nice share mate.
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