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How To Setup a Local VPN For CC Issues With FB and G (42)

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ok I have seen this alot....people getting accounts tagged due to issues with FB and Google with the fact that the CC address is to far from the IP

Its prob why alot of guys loose their 2nd or 3rd accounts....

Both Google and Fb check for this now.....yes you may get away with it for a while but as you increase in daily spend its one of the first reg flags.....and you will prob loose your account to it at some point.....

Also another key point here folks is when you use a VPN....to setup a second account...if they look at the IP you are login in from its gonna show a data center or a hosting provider...which looks very odd to FB or Google.....which again is another strike against you when they go snooping around...

We must remember we are guilty till proven inocent with FB and Google so its best to start off on the right foot...

How to do that is to setup your own local VPN....

Yes this will take some effort and a little cash on your behalf but once done.....gives you the ability to look 100% legit to them...

There are a few things you need for this....

1 or more secondary computers.....

OMG I am not made of money Mr. Pink Unicorn.....

Hmmm well what I say to that is if you want to be cloaking and running multiple accounts its gonna cost you a bit....prob $400 or so depending on your location....its really just the cost of doing biz these days.....yes you can run some kinda vmware but I like to keep things 100% separate....machine wise....I feel its the safest and easiest way....you can pic up some dirt cheap PC's via http://newegg.com

they don't need to be much.....just run some version of windows as the most you will use these for will be to upload ads/camps and check stats....

other things you will need are a basic router....nothing fancy here....no wireless needed it just needs to be NAT based (most are)

static ip's from your broadband provider......you can order them in packs from almost any broadband provider.....they might ask you what they are for.....just say proxy or mail server....key point here you may need to be a Biz account customer for them to do that....I know with comcast you do....same with ATT and I would imagine others as well....

When you get those ip's assigned to you you will get some info mainly

gateway
DNS
IP

also your cable/dsl modem may or maynot change....so there will be a few extra steps here that need to be done instaed of what you just usta do......you can't just plug in your router....as your router now has the dynamic ip assignment turned off.....you have to set up the static routes.....

sounds difficult? Nope not really

what you will need to do is configure the router with the info they gave you....


gateway
DNS
your static IP

configuring the router is really very easy just access your settings and input what they gave you and your ready to rock and roll....

what you are doing is your making your router a static IP on the net....this is a good thing as it looks very stable to G and FB as it will never change.....

so once thats done connect your "new" pc to that router....and fire that bad boy up....make a new user and use http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner and clean every last spec of tracking based software from that PC....

this is a critical step as PC's are fingerprinted by google and Fb and persistent cookies can be left behind....

next step is to setup some kinda remote client software....I use http://www.gotomypc.com/remote_access/remote_access

as I find it fast and easy to use there is almost nothing to configure and it works really well....

for those of you who are a bit more skilled you can use the remote desktop client built into windows....but it takes a bit more work to get it setup....


once that's all done remote into your new PC and setup your new ad accounts and your good to go....


You now look 100% legit IP wise and PC wise to whatever traffic soucre you with to setup accounts with.....With a IP that is local to your CC address

What If an account goes down?


wipe the PC....use CC cleaner to delete all tracking cookies.....then go make another user.....delete the old user.....then swap IP's at the router level and your good to go again.....

You can just keep buying new ip's as needed....

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Would it be possible to replicate this same method on a single power-machine while running Windows XP or similar VMs?

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When you change the ip address on the router why would you need another pc? wouldn't you just create a new user on your main machine?
So once you have changed the ip address on the router you then wouldn't be able to login to your personal Facebook account because then it would show the same ip as the new fake account you just created.

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you would need a special switch to flip ips....

or a few dif network cards....that you would disable/enable as needed....to flip ips....on each vmachine

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I think there maybe some confusion so I made graphic that helps explain it better

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Hey Polar, I'm currently running VMware + private proxies. Currently my aduploader (spyder) shows my main IP. How can I make it to where all programs use the same private proxy?

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Does anyone know the best method to get around if the cards I have use the same billing address? ie does this raise flags if I was to use the same for multiple accounts.

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@rich I've seen people saying that you can totally make up some random addresses near your bank, because for billing purposes FB only checks name on the card, CC number, expiration date and CVV. I don't know if that's accurate, hope the expert multi-accounters here can give a 100% sure advice.l

@polarbacon I was going to make a post asking how to do just that, you saved me hundreds of queries on google and lots of wasted hours trying to make this work by myself Cheers!

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@polar : why the nat router is needed in this scenario, what its function ?

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Yeah I know from experience that for US cards, only the zip code has to match but with me being in the UK I'm not too sure what they check.

I have a couple of cards which I need to use up so I guess I'll just have to test around, I just didn't want to blacklist the card because it's kind of a pain to get new ones. I have to say I've lost them at the moment to get new ones.

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for a separate static ip....

you can put a windows box right on the cable modem.....but you open that box to all sorts of hacking.....the router just give you that layer of protection

windows itself was never meant to be setup that way....if you wanted to run windows server then ya the routers aren't needed...

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as I know proxy do forward your original ip to the destination, which is bad

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@polar : so the given ip addresses are configured on the NAT router itself, not on the cable modem ? the cable modem just provide the broadband connectivity ?

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I'm thinking of this for a 2nd (3rd, 4th) computer.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-AspireRev.../dp/B00433SP6G

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Okay . . . here's my totally networking n00b question - do you need a switch between the cable modem and the two routers?

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unless your run out of router port, the switch is for your computer with the router, not for your modem

switch is just an port extension

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Yes that's how it works with Comcast.....

the cable modem just acts as the gateway....the ip is defined at the router....

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I think AVS credit card systems only verify the street number and zip code.

For example, the following two addresses are considered the same:

123 Red Widget Road
Atlanta, GA 12345

and

123 Blue Gear Drive
Tallahassee, FL 12345

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Yeah I heard that too, do you know if that's the case with an address in the UK?

I've yet to try it incase it blacklists the card but I did try using the real address bar changing the house number. It did work for 24hours and they used the suspicious payment bullshit to close it down, I did go through all the email crap and managed to get it back but it took like 2-3 weeks. I don't want to go through that each time I make a new account.

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Anyone tried using PayPal to solve the cc issue.

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I've heard paypal throws up red flags but don't quote me on that.

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The cable modem only had one output slot. So, how do you plug two routers into it (per PolarBacon's graphic)? A switch?

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there are dif types of modems..... when you order the ips if you don't have the correct modem the cable company get you the correct one....

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I agree with this i have had nothing but issues with paypal

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Okay . . . I just ordered a dedicated business internet line with 5 static IPs and bought 2 new computers.

Thanks for the tutorial!

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Well, my cable provider (not comcast) will only provide a cable modem with 1 port. They said the easiest way to get a static ip on your laptop/desktop computer is to just set the network adapter settings on the laptop/desktop computer to the static ip that you want. No need to buy additional equipment.

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Quick question: I couldn't find the answer to this anywhere.

I just setup an new clean pc...new ip...new cc. When I tried to enter my payment info, it required that my full name and address be completely accurate. I tried different combo's but nothing worked. Once I entered my real name & address I got an immediate "account disabled message". How are you guys getting around this? Are there certain banks and cc issuers that don't check for this stuff?

BTW... I'm looking into a P.O box now.

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Paypal is worse.....the will reveal all the data to fb....I have had nothing but issues with paypal and don't recommend it at all

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FYI . . . I did this method as polarbacon outlined. Everything went fine, and I just got my first account spending increase today.

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Does the Cable moden not have a MAC address that is detectable as the same for all IP's?

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the cable modem is just a gateway and is not the end point....the end point is the "nat" router....thats the mac address that can been seen.....if your curious just do a "traceroute" that shows you all the hops point to point....

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I'm also wondering on the CC question, do you have to set up new business card, and do the employee debit card trick? You can't just use a new cc with your same name can you, even if address is changed?

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Is this possible:

My brother lives in Pittsburgh and I live in LA. Is it possible to login from my house in LA to his connection in Pittsburgh and use his connection to set up an account? I can't seem to find a VPN from Pittsburgh and this would be ideal as it would be his home connection and I can make an employee account with his info.

Would I need to set up a dedicated computer in his house to get this done too?

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Yes, this is doable...though I'm sure you know this by now. You can use logmein.com or teamviewer to remote access the comp you setup in Pittsburgh. just make sure he's never ran campaigns on FB or the G

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@inversion where your 5 static ips they provided the same numbers with the exception of the final digit(s)? i.e., 55.66.510.2, 55.66.510.3, 55.66.510.4, etc.? OR where they completely unique IP's? If they were all on the same 'block' do you think it matters or not at all?

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Answers to a couple of questions I've been asked:

1) The IPs I was assigned were in the same block. I have no idea of this matters, since I've only set up one new account using this method. It's a good question, but one I can't answer.

2) The Acer AspireRevo AR3700-U3002 Slim and Compact Desktop computers have worked just fine. I installed bare bones software (chrome, anti-virus, dropbox, etc.) and haven't had any issues. They only come with 2Gb RAM, so don't expect high performance. But, there're perfect if you're just using them to connect to the internet. It's nice that they come with a wireless mouse and keyboard, so you can put them out of the way when not in use.

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Thanks for the response, glad to hear I'm not the only one in this situation. I'm essentially at the same point as well, just one account setup so far so we'll see how it goes.

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Another option is to upgrade the firmware on your router with the s/w provided at http://dd-wrt.com. The firmware will upgrade your router so that it can handle multiple ips. You will have to make iptables for your additional ips so the router will know what to do with them. You have to check the router database at http://dd-wrt.com to see if your router is upgradeable.

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What if you are using a service like HMA? I always use it and since I live in a big US city, I can easily use it wherever I am.

But beyond matching your CC to your city, do you think they actually take a look at IPs and try to see if you are using a proxy? I mean if they are at the point where they are examining your ip address it's probably too late anyway??

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Yeah they do, I just had one suspended for suspicious payment and everything was legit bar the fact I was using a proxy

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Thanks for this, I would assume this method would work for adcenter and lead impact accounts too?

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Is this still a good method to use in 2015?

What about a "virgin private proxies" and private VPN's. This would be more convenient way to set up a new account with either G or FB.
But how save are those if I want to keep my account for longer?

Most "how to" questions on getting new accounts are apparently not being answered here or are outdated.
But everyone lost an account at some point, even for silly reasons, there should be more guidance on a paid affiliate forum on this, even if is' more general without giving away exact secrets.

More general would be to confirm that proxies/VPNs from a reputable seller is a proven approach to get a new account live without any issues (unless you break any other rules of course)

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