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My Justin Bieber PPV campaign (36)

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I saw stackman's $150/day PPV campaign and figured I might as well give it a go and I know it would also be good for you guys to see how I manage to do.

Landing page for now is exactly what stackman gave us and now I am waiting for LI to approve my lander.

I have added 90 keywords, and lets see how we do on the first day.

My lander is here.

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I'm eagerly awaiting the results!

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Me too lol

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as a Bieber fan i can tell you...that lander is going to convert like CRAZY!!! so hot! keep us posted

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Good luck dude, hopefully the competition has died down!

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I have also got a software in the making, which used to generate $100 daily for me running in the background.

I am not hyping this or anything, but it really was a true auto money maker software.

It made money right out of facebook, but with recent changes I couldnt code it myself so I now a freelancer is in the progress of doing it.

With this lander, I think it can achieve $500 a day.

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looking forward to the results.

your money maker software sounds like a banned clickbank push button riches product. hope its so much more....

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@tijn:

It doesn't make money from Clickbank

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It´s So True

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Here are the results for day 1:

301 impressions
25 clicks
8.3% CTR
1 lead
$0.70 revenue
$5.01 spent
13% ROI

The offer I was promoting was a Justin Bieber questionnaire. You can see it HERE.

For the first day, I am happy with the CTR but really not happy with the conversion rate.

I thought this was going to be a hell of a good cpa offer as it is directly related to justin bieber.

What do you think I should promote instead?

An iPhone email submit perhaps?

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Man.....do you ever learn.

Have you optimized your targets?

Are you running 1 lander as control and 1 to try and improve?

How many targets are you running and if you share some stats on views / clicks / conversions (not actually sharing the target of course) i can see where you can optimize further.

Check the 40 day guide for some simple target optimization rules.

Also your ROI is not 13% - ROI = Profit / Cost (x100% of cours to turn it into %)

Your actually running at -85% ROI.

Your giving up too early.

Look at the positive

You have a lander that generates clicks throughs and conversions
You have an offer that converts

granted - the payout is low and you probably need to hit 10-15% CTR + 25% CR for this to become profitable so could be difficult.

re the offer - there are several JB related offers out there with way better payoff. http://odigger.com/?s=bieber&nw_id=&...is=1&num=&bcp=

Now if I see you ignore the advice many many affiliates have given you again, ill guess the advice is not welcome so ill stop.

Go and implement some of the above, post some real stats, and show your learning!

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Seriously, listen to Tijn. It seems like you are just bouncing from offer to offer without doing any optimising whatsoever...

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I thought ROI was revenue/cost, oh well.

Ok, so thank you to tijn for a good shout

I have used 92 keywords for this campaign which is way to many.

Today I will select the top 5 keywords traffic wise and see how it does.

I will look for another offer to promote, because $0.70 is a very low payout. Maybe create my own offer? You know win Justin Bieber tickets, and place a content locker on top of it. Maybe that'll convert.

I am happy with the lander, but I will create 2-3 new ones to see which one does the best.

But trust me, I'm not gonna give up on this. Granted, at the beginning I was an optimist and thought I could create a profitable campaign on Day 1. This is exactly what I needed, a kick in ass that I will need to work for this.

But thanks for your advice, it is MOST welcome. (That's the reason I joined this forum)

Do you think Justin Bieber mobile offers would convert well? My initial reaction is that they will because JB fans are obsessed over him and would kill to get anything related to him.

Another Question

Do you have to be 18 to join cpatank.com? There is a Justin Bieber offer there which I would like to run. And that is a Justin Bieber facebook theme.

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Stop thinking about these things and keep it easy. Stick to 3-4 cpa networks that have some bieber submits, then throw all of them in a rotator and optimize your targets as tijn recommended (because the low conversion rate might not be because of a bad offer but because of bad targets).

Don't branch out into mobile now (you'd need a new traffic source?) or creating your own offer again (why waste time with that if you can just rotate through 10 bieb submits first?).

STAY FOCUSED!

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I am staying focuse, just trying to find a good offer that converts.

But you are right. First, I will rotate all of the available offers first and wont waste time with trying to create my own.

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but do you have to be 18 to join cpatank.com?

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I ran something similar like 6-10months so can chime in with some of the things I saw, bare in mind the campaign did around 150-200 a day in profit - I never took it to the next level because I was working on other things.

You need to test more offers, grab any submits that might target younger girls, iphones, ipads, laptops (pink stuff?) - ever thought a 16yr old girl isn't interested in an apple tv? There used to be a submit offer for Justin Bieber tickets (i think qwik media had it) but if I remember rightly it was iphone submits that did the best. Obviously you will need to make multiple versions of your landing page and edit the text to represent the offer it links to.

You don't need hundreds of urls in the beginning, I picked about 5-10 of the more well known Bieber urls (http://www.google.co.uk/search?gcx=w...=justin+bieber) so that you can find your winning landing page/offer much faster - I hate waiting around for data.

I pretty much stopped at that point because like I said I had other things doing much better, submits can be a pain especially when your target audience is the younger crowd so you have to keep an eye on conversion rate. I would say if you have an offer profiting, keep it in the mix - it's better to have 10 offers profiting rather than the throwing 100% traffic to the one giving the best ROI as they might just decide to scrub you overnight and you'l have a shock waking up to penny epc's.

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drop an email to the cpa network owner. you need a game plan and seriously focus

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I think your asking wayyyyy to many questions... Will this offer work, will that work, what about this , and that... no one will spoon feed you the answers, nor do we even know what justin beiber offer will work with your keywords... how the hell do you expect us to know?

Second, why are you not rotating all the possible offers with a few other lander variations? also 90 keywords is not A LOT at all.. especially when your targeting justin beiber fans since almost every 15 yr old girl knows who he is and thinks hes hot or whatever.. you dont necessarily need the keyword "justin beiber" to be profiting.

Third, you have to be 18 for every network you apply to, but maybe if you sign up as your dad or whatever, it will work.

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Im sorry if I am asking too many question, but I thought that was the whole point of this forum. I asked these questions because I know someone here will know the answers, like "rich" who ran a very similar campaign.

What I meant with 90 keywords being too much is that I cannot find the profitable ones with having 90 active keywords. I need to take a look at them separately. Which ones get the highest CTR etc.

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Promoting iPads worked for me. But your best long term option would be to create your own Justin Bieber offer using coreg.

I would also split test the "question". That was the big changer for me when I ran polls.

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^^ Thanks

Yes, I am designing multiple landers RIGHT NOW to see which one performs well.

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It is if you take action on the answers you get

which you seem to finally be doing. Looking forward to seeing some of the results.

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WOW!! What a great improvement on day 2!

Here is what I did:

• Added a pop-up saying "Correct Answer" and then redirected to email submit
• Tested 3 different email submits

Results:

458 visits
$9.16 spent
56 clicks
12% CTR
5 leads
$8 revenue
-12% ROI


I tested 3 email submits, only 2 seemed to be converting.



So now, what's the next step?

Test more offers? Test more landers? Add an extra step in between the landing page and email submit?

How do I increase conversions even more and get a positive ROI?

I think this is a great result for Day 2, gonna go to sleep now. I'm sure that'll be lot's of responses when I wake up

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I'd reccomend trying a few offers at addrive.

You need a lot more data to make any calls yet.

Test them lander titles.

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Ok. So i'll sign up to addrive now.

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Ok, i have no idea what happened here.

333 impressions
$5 spent
20 clicks
6% CTR
1 lead
$1.60 revenue
-68% ROI

I really do not know what happened because yesterday, I ran the same lander but that got 12% CTR and 5 leads!

I will run the same lander again today, to see if this was just an anomaly.

And I will also create a longer questionnaire with 5 questions and not 1 to see if that increases conversion rates.

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You need a lot more data to make informed decisions about how well it's doing. I don't think 333 impressions, 20 clicks, 1 lead is enough. Two more leads and you would have basically broken even. I would keep running it, maybe up your budget to get a bit more data per day. I wouldn't change the questionnaire just yet - maybe split test it once you have more data and more dependable CTR/conversion rate values.

Unless you're pushing serious volume, changing things every day means you're never really testing things properly.

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You know what? The thing is, there are already so many of us have seen this landing page and I am pretty sure there are a lot more "copy cats" other than you. With this saturated campaign, tell me, why would you still copy the whole campaign without twisting it?

The point of this forum is to let you obtain ideas and data from other people's successful campaigns and then create your very own idea to break into this sea of money. Not to let you copy and with the hope that this campaign will make you money!

Sorry for being harsh but it is so true if you are serious on making big money online. Just my 2 cent.

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You are right, today I will test with $15.

@kokofai: the landing page did well on day 2. this forum is exactly for us to copy ideas and improve them.

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Have you incorporated the latest JB news into your lander?

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I have a lot of trouble understanding you, hmate9.

Let me recap my readthrough of this thread.

You ask:

Good question! Perhaps some suggestions from STMers will help you out?

Ah, here they come now!

Wow, great ideas STMers! Surely they'll be appreciated!

Seriously?

Come on, man. Focus. People are giving you advice, and you don't even seem to acknowledge it. YES, people have made celebrity campaigns profitable. NO, you shouldn't iframe an offer, take that shit to BHW. YES, you should take advice people give you on this forums and implement it!

Believe me, man, that's all we want for you, too. But you need to be systematic. Make calculated changes to your landing pages. Analyze the results. See what worked. Use VWO or a similar tool when you come up with a page that's approaching break even. Don't jump around from angle to angle unless an angle shows zero promise.

We're all rooting for you, dude. Keep at it.

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I am implementing it!

Building the new lander now: http://freebigbrandrewards.com/jb/

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OK, so the new lander is doing very well indeed!

It has a 15% CTR, but I CANNOT CONVERT THIS TRAFFIC!

I have tried iframing the offer, letting visitors chose their choice of reward etc. But it is just not converting for me.

Anyone has any more suggestions what I could do to get visitors to enter their email??

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If JB doesn't convert maybe something else does. I am going to be doing a campaign that is similar to this. . . but I haven't heard of anyone targeting my angle. So, I can assume my demo hasn't been over exposed to pop ups!

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Here is the complete write up: http://matehegedus.com/complete-just...ppv-case-study

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