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Can any tracker/system do this? That would be so awesome! (13)
02-23-2017 06:14 PM
#1
danielt (Member)
You can trigger your steps via AJAX calls ( faster for the user and smoother for yourself )
and advance through the funnel like that.
Does the above apply to your case?
02-23-2017 07:43 PM
#2
janky99 (Member)
Hey,
Thanks for your suggestion, it does make some sense to do it via ajax.
But I`m not sure it is doable and easy to implement.
For example each "step" in funnelflux is either an offer or lander, if we
request them via a click it would need to open a redirect to a new page
and it would have to load in the background somehow?
But it will have a redirect also which might be a bad thing and it would take
the user to "nowhere", dummy page?
Not sure if it can be done or not?
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I found a SAAS service named heap analytics, it looks very
interesting as it "records" everything all the time after you install it.
Then, later on, you can go in an ad funnels like:
People who visited x page, then y page and so on...
Testing it out now.
Any other suggestions?
02-23-2017 09:48 PM
#3
osmiumman (Member)
Maybe you could set up each step as a separate campaign?
02-24-2017 04:16 AM
#4
vitavee ()
Can you explain the reason you can't use action links to go from page to page?
We have other vendors using FunnelFlux to track complex funnels, which look a bit like yours with multiple upsells and downsells, payment gateway pages, exit pops etc...
Ultimately you need to give a URL to go to a page, what prevents you from giving the action URL instead of the page's URL?
02-24-2017 07:42 AM
#5
janky99 (Member)
Vitavee, I appreciate your reply here!
Let me explain my funnel here and tell you where I`m stuck, i hope that you can help me how to solve this.
----------- Domain #1
- Ad (Use funnelflux main campaign url) (OK)
- Prelander Page ( OK )
On Action 1 take user to "offer page" ( OK )
----------- Domain #2
- Offer Page (Works with billing) (Not OK)
Here we use an order form which works through an API after user fills in the form it goes to an API listener then redirects users to an upsell.
We can´t change this link and tracker links should NOT be same as on domain #1.
- Upsell (Works with API again and has a secret hash) (Not OK)
If the user clicks on YES, a purchase is made and user goes to the next step.
If the user clicks NO, goes to next step without a purchase.
What do you think? Is it possible, if so how?
02-24-2017 07:44 AM
#6
janky99 (Member)

Originally Posted by
osmiumman
Maybe you could set up each step as a separate campaign?
Maybe?
Any suggestions on how to set this up with several traffic sources, and necessary split testing in between AND several products... (Scratching my head???)...
02-24-2017 10:45 AM
#7
vitavee ()
I see the problem now. But it's still possible.
Here's your funnel basically:

The links A, B and C are the ones you cannot give to your ordering service.
But you can simulate those clicks, exactly like if a visitor had clicked on them, to let FunnelFlux know that the visitor is traversing your nodes.
Here's how:
You take the action's URL labeled "A" on the screenshot above, and you put it as a pixel on your "Upsell" page.
Since every visitor reaching the upsell is coming from the offer, it will effectively record their click from the offer to the upsell. When your ordering service redirects those people to the upsell, the upsell page itself triggers the click.
Since that action also specifies "this is a conversion", the conversions of offer 1 will be recorded as well.
On the "next step" page, if the upsell was purchased, then you fire the action "B" in a pixel, otherwise you fire the action "C".
Firing those actions in pixels is easy, here's the HTML markup:
HTML Code:
<img src="your-action-url-here" alt="" width="1" height="1" />
02-24-2017 11:13 AM
#8
janky99 (Member)
Thanks for your help!! This does help a lot and solve most of the problems.
Few more questions are still unanswered:
- If user refreshes the upsell page with the hidden image many times, it will skew up the tracking results?
- Where to link to on action 1/2 (on upsell #1) for the hidden images? Just some dummy page with no content?
- Can more than 1 campaign/traffic source use the same funnel/links? The reason, why I ask, is we have up to 4 traffic sources and to re-create the funnel for each and implement the same hidden images will be a tedious job.
- We have FunnelFlux installed on the main domain, for the 2nd domain can we cname a subdomain to the first domain? And use FunnelFlux links that for the 2nd domain via this cname?
02-24-2017 12:03 PM
#9
vitavee ()
- If user refreshes the upsell page with the hidden image many times, it will skew up the tracking results?
By default FunnelFlux only shows you the
unique clicks, so it will not screw the stats, unless you enable the option to display the duplicate clicks, in which case it would show all those refreshes.
- Where to link to on action 1/2 (on upsell #1) for the hidden images? Just some dummy page with no content?
You mean you don't have access to the "next-step" page? If that is the case, then create a next-step external url node like I did in the screenshot above. That will be your dummy page but it will have some clear meaning in your funnel.
- Can more than 1 campaign/traffic source use the same funnel/links? The reason, why I ask, is we have up to 4 traffic sources and to re-create the funnel for each and implement the same hidden images will be a tedious job.
No need to duplicate, you can use one single funnel for unlimited traffic sources. When you check your stats, you can either get the global stats for all traffic sources combined, or filter by one specific traffic source.
- We have FunnelFlux installed on the main domain, for the 2nd domain can we cname a subdomain to the first domain? And use FunnelFlux links that for the 2nd domain via this cname?
Yes and no.
You can cname a subdomain to the 1st one, and you can use tracking links from that cname.
But, you cannot mix links from 1st and 2nd domains, because cookies are domain specific. So if you send traffic to your funnel via domain1, and then use domain2 for your action urls, those action urls won't be able to read the cookies dropped by domain1 - and this will screw up your stats (it will show you that those clicks come from organic traffic).
You need to be consistent and either use links from domain 1 (tracking link + action links) or only links from domain 2.
Edit: you can actually use the "stored links" to disguise those.
ie, create a stored link called 'myfunnel-action1' for example, and make that stored link redirect to domain1's action 1 url.
That stored link will then look like this:
domain1.com/?flux_sl=myfunnel-action1
Replace domain1.com with your cnamed domain to use that stored link from domain2:
domain2.com/?flux_sl=myfunnel-action1
That stored link will internally redirect to your domain 1's action 1 url.
Not sure if that's clear
02-24-2017 04:58 PM
#10
janky99 (Member)
Thanks, everything is clear upto the point of "EDIT!" ;-)
After that I didn´t follow what you meant. Maybe you can do a screenshot if it´s possible?
02-27-2017 12:27 PM
#11
vitavee ()
That's what I thought 
I was referring to this feature:

You would create a stored link that would redirect to your action url:

Then on domain2, instead of using the action url, you would use that stored link's url - on which you would use the CNAMEd domain instead of your tracking domain.
So if the stored url given to you by FunnelFlux is:
domain1.com/?flux_sl=action1
On domain2, you would use it as:
cnamed-domain.com/?flux_sl=action1
03-02-2017 06:41 PM
#12
alexwin (Member)

Originally Posted by
vitavee
I see the problem now. But it's still possible.
Here's your funnel basically:
The links A, B and C are the ones you cannot give to your ordering service.
But you can simulate those clicks, exactly like if a visitor had clicked on them, to let FunnelFlux know that the visitor is traversing your nodes.
Here's how:
You take the action's URL labeled "A" on the screenshot above, and you put it as a pixel on your "Upsell" page.
Since every visitor reaching the upsell is coming from the offer, it will effectively record their click from the offer to the upsell. When your ordering service redirects those people to the upsell, the upsell page itself triggers the click.
Since that action also specifies "this is a conversion", the conversions of offer 1 will be recorded as well.
On the "next step" page, if the upsell was purchased, then you fire the action "B" in a pixel, otherwise you fire the action "C".
Firing those actions in pixels is easy, here's the HTML markup:
HTML Code:
<img src="your-action-url-here" alt="" width="1" height="1" />
Hi vitavee
If I understood this correctly on the next Upsell page I will place both action B and action C pixel and only one of them will be fired depending if the visitor made an upsell buy (B) or declined to buy (C) ?
And... what happens if after the last upsell comes a “Thank You Page” that belongs to the payment processor and I cannot place the "B pixel" for conversion?
Thanks!
03-03-2017 12:24 PM
#13
vitavee ()
Hi Alex,
If I understood this correctly on the next Upsell page I will place both action B and action C pixel and only one of them will be fired depending if the visitor made an upsell buy (B) or declined to buy (C) ?
Exact.
And... what happens if after the last upsell comes a “Thank You Page” that belongs to the payment processor and I cannot place the "B pixel" for conversion?
If you have no control over the links you give them, the page that get displayed, and their system doesn't allow you to place a pixel, or to call a conversion postback, then it's going to be difficult.
Can you at least add a custom message on that thank you page?
Or do you have a way to send an email to your customers?
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