Affiliate Quest [Part 1 - Campaign launch and first optimizations] (19)

Hi Guys,
I am new on STM and affiliate marketing in general.
I have some basic knowledge about it and I am already trying to promote some CPI utilities offers, however, it was tough for me.

I decided to join STM to tell more about my experience. Hope someone will find it useful and at least will not repeat my mistakes. And I’ll also appreciate if someone shares his experience.

I started with VPN and cleaner offers from TrafficShark. I heard that cleaners are not as good as they were a couple of years ago but I decided to give it a go for some time.

I am currently running Defender Security offer for android, US.

First, I started to send traffic to it without a prelander, which was a bad decision. Luckily, I have not payed that much $$$ for this mistake. The next couple of days I was learning how to make and set up prelandings. I’ve also spent some time on diving into AdPlexity. I’ve heard that using it won’t give me the full image but I just wanted to get some idea of how does it work.

I came up with three variants of prelanders. Geos, bids and targets were the same. Right from the start I narrowed my targeting to latest Google Chrome versions (starting from 85). I use pop traffic as it is pretty cheap.

One was pretty generic but later I added back button hijack script which helped me to increase LP CTR up to 2%. Yeah, still I am not very impressed with this result, I wish I had more clicks on the offer itself.

The second one was quite aggressive. I didn’t think that nowadays it will work as users become smarter but okay… it got clicked on more right from the start. (around 3% LP CTR, but I am still not very satisfied as I had no installs)

The third was just OK, it did not attract lots of clicks, LP CTR is 0%. It was a really white one.
Anyway I've been collecting the data during 2-3 days and finally I decreased the probability of appearing of the third prelanding.

This first test gave me 0 installs, as there was small amount of click made on LP. My biggest concern now is how to lead more click from prelanding to landing page.

I added Back Button Hijacks (BBH) on all the prelands but still do not see any improvements.
I think this might be due to

- my prelandings suck 😞

Oh, if you are curios about BBH, here is the script I used:

</script>
<script type="text/javascript"> var PreventExitPop = true;function ExitPop() {if(PreventExitPop != false) {return "";}}window.onbeforeunload = ExitPop; </script>
<script type="text/javascript">
! function() {
var t;
try {
for(t = 0; 10 > t; ++t) history.pushState({}, "", "");
onpopstate = function(t) {
PreventExitPop = false
t.state && location.replace("your_link")
}
} catch(o) {}
}();
</script>

Originally Posted by alexiz

Hi Guys,
I am new on STM and affiliate marketing in general.
I have some basic knowledge about it and I am already trying to promote some CPI utilities offers, however, it was tough for me.

Originally Posted by alexiz

I decided to join STM to tell more about my experience. Hope someone will find it useful and at least will not repeat my mistakes. And I’ll also appreciate if someone shares his experience.

Originally Posted by alexiz

I started with VPN and cleaner offers from TrafficShark. I heard that cleaners are not as good as they were a couple of years ago but I decided to give it a go for some time.

I am currently running Defender Security offer for android, US.

Originally Posted by alexiz

First, I started to send traffic to it without a prelander, which was a bad decision. Luckily, I have not payed that much $$$ for this mistake. The next couple of days I was learning how to make and set up prelandings. I’ve also spent some time on diving into AdPlexity. I’ve heard that using it won’t give me the full image but I just wanted to get some idea of how does it work.

I came up with three variants of prelanders. Geos, bids and targets were the same. Right from the start I narrowed my targeting to latest Google Chrome versions (starting from 85). I use pop traffic as it is pretty cheap.

One was pretty generic but later I added back button hijack script which helped me to increase LP CTR up to 2%. Yeah, still I am not very impressed with this result, I wish I had more clicks on the offer itself.

Originally Posted by alexiz

The second one was quite aggressive. I didn’t think that nowadays it will work as users become smarter but okay… it got clicked on more right from the start. (around 3% LP CTR, but I am still not very satisfied as I had no installs)

Originally Posted by alexiz

The third was just OK, it did not attract lots of clicks, LP CTR is 0%. It was a really white one.
Anyway I've been collecting the data during 2-3 days and finally I decreased the probability of appearing of the third prelanding.

This first test gave me 0 installs, as there was small amount of click made on LP. My biggest concern now is how to lead more click from prelanding to landing page.

I added Back Button Hijacks (BBH) on all the prelands but still do not see any improvements.
I think this might be due to

- my prelandings suck 

Oh, if you are curios about BBH, here is the script I used:

Code:

</script>
<script type="text/javascript"> var PreventExitPop = true;function ExitPop() {if(PreventExitPop != false) {return "";}}window.onbeforeunload = ExitPop; </script>
<script type="text/javascript">
! function() {
var t;
try {
for(t = 0; 10 > t; ++t) history.pushState({}, "", "");
onpopstate = function(t) {
PreventExitPop = false
t.state && location.replace("your_link")
}
} catch(o) {}
}();
</script>

Originally Posted by alexiz

- the traffic source is not great, but not sure that it is true. I made second test with iOS VPN where the same traffic sources convert (I will tell about it later).

Originally Posted by alexiz

- the offer is not great, after all it is a cleaning utility which is not super popular.

- I need to bid higher, but again, the other offer converts on the same traffic sources and on the same bid.

To check this theory, I increased the bid x1.5 for some time to see whether this will drive more clicks. Nothing changed.
Any advice on that?

I also cut off all the sources that did not click on the LP (offer), hope this will increase the LP CTR.

Just as I expected, I did not have a single conversion on the first try. At least I learned how to set the things up.

Originally Posted by alexiz

PS:
I forgot to mention that firstly I sent pops to offer directly from traffic source.
This allowed me to make optimizations by subid which as it turned out is not enough.

I want to check if the optimization by IP ranges allows to achieve better results.
After quick tracker research I decided to choose Binom. Right now I am moving all of my campaigns to it and hope to collect more data about IPs and start my optimizations.

Originally Posted by alexiz

I will share my results later. What do you guys think about IP range optimizations? Can it actually help to eliminate unnecessary spending? Is there any data about IPs ranges that do not perform on certain traffic sources?

PPS:
As I moved my Defender campaign to Binom on the 2d day of running and forgot to update the postback.
Which means I did not receive information about conversions. I have 12 now.


My goals now are:
- to start earning more than I spend;
- to perfect Binom and Adplexity;
- to learn new ways of optimization;
- to start testing new offers.

Hey Plutus,
Thank you for your feedback and advice!

Just a quick update

Yesterday I wrote that I’d noticed that prelanders located on the advertiser's side had pretty high LP CTR (more than 70-80%) while prelanders located on the my side (even with BBH script) gave me 2-3% LP CTR and that’s all.

It seemed strange to me so I gave a deeper glance into advertiser’s prelander… and found a plenty of useful (I hope) scripts. Wanted to share one of them:

<body class="ar rtl" onclick="goto();"><script>function goto() {console.log()window.onbeforeunload = null;location.href = "https://xxxx.xxx/click.php?lp=1&place=body"}</script>

Hi Community!


Now let me tell you about my second try which finally resulted in more conversions.


I tested the VPN offer for US ($1.5) from the same advertiser and I run the offer from 9th of December to this day.
The offer's flow is CPI, but it also has a KPI, where conversions have to result in free trials.
KPI: CR from click to install >0.1%, CR from install to trial >10%, CR from install to subscription >0.5%


I decided to ignore the KPI and concentrate on driving more installs first.


The offer already had 2 different prelandings from the advertiser which was great for me.


I asked the advertiser to give me 2 tracking links which had different prelandings so that I could split test and see which one performs better.


I started with the first prelanding (grey one)
It took me 2 days (9-10) to generate 12 converions.
I spent $15.47 on traffic and earned $3.
I spent $64.3 the next day and already had +10 conversions.


I decided to clone this campaign but to whitelist the sources that drove conversions and trials on it and increase the bid.
Need to say, I decreased the bid again after some time as it affected neither the amount of traffic I got nor the traffic quality.


Right now the situation (1st prelanding) is like:
Spent: $690.79, 108 conversions




I set up the offer with another prelanding a couple of days later. Again, I made the same cloning with the whitelist of the best-performing subids. Increased the bid. Dropped the bid. In my case the bid had 0 effect on the situation.


The results of the 2d prelanding:
Spent: $483.23, 101 conversions.




The second one is clearly better. I also got the feedback from the advertisers that I had free trials.


1st prelanding 108 installs - 16 trials
2d prelanding 101 installs, 16 trial


The CR from Install to trial is around 15% which is great. I needed 10%. Looks like I will be payed.


I had to blacklist some sources of traffic that were non-profitable for me and for my advertiser.
Right now I try to minimize the negative ROI.


After traffic source cleaning I had to pause one of my clones as it did not bring me conversions and just wasted funds.
I am looking into the ways of how to make my -ROI at least 0.
I also moved these campaigns to Binom to get more detailed information.




Here is how it looks like now:



I saw an interesting recommendation from @twinaxe and was curios if this works for me:

Great progress!
@plutus has already given plenty of great advice. I don't have much to add for now except a couple of suggestions/comments.

I have a question: Those 3 pre-landers you tested - did you cut based on CONVERSIONS or CTR? And did you use a statistical calculator?

As for the advertiser telling you that their lander is getting 70-80% CTR - I'm willing to bet that even if that number isn't exaggerated, the traffic was something with way higher quality and relevance than pop. There is no way pop traffic can produce that kind of CTR for a tier 1 geo like the US.

For a very competitive geo like the US, you need to test many pre-landers (or what affiliates simply refer to as "landers") and many offers, until you find a good combination, and then focus on cutting placements and other traffic segments (e.g. carriers, OSs etc.)

I would suggest to test more landers. Also please spend time optimizing them for speed - this is very essential and can have a big impact on CTR and CR.

After testing a few more landers, you can focus on cutting placements.

That is - if you REALLY have your heart set on making this particular offer work. Personally I would test multiple offers to see if I can find a better one first. The better your lander+offer combination converts, the less money you'll need to spend on optimizing to profitability.

The opposite is also true: The worse your lander+offer combination converts, the more money you'll need to spend on optimization - basically you'd have a LONG way to cut to reach green.

Another concern is traffic volume. Fortunately, US is a big geo, and if you're getting lots of volume, you may be able to rely on a lot of cutting to get green, and STILL have enough traffic left to make money from.

Interested in seeing what you'll choose to do next! Again - great start and great progress!



Amy
P.S. If you'd like your images to appear nice and big, please read @twinaxe's post here: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-In-Your-Posts

vBulletin's image upload is quite wonky - doesn't work half the time - and even when it does, images appear tiny.

Hi Amy,
Happy Holiday Season!
Thank you for your message.

I am looking into new popunder traffic sources. I signed up with RTX platform.
They have a minimum deposit of $500 which is non-refundable. Nice.
I wonder if their pops worth it.

Do you guys have any idea? Has anyone worked with their traffic?
I will appreciate your comments!

Happy holidays to you as well @alexiz! All the best for year 2021!

Originally Posted by alexiz

When I first started I cut off sources based on CTR as I did not have conversion data. After I received some I started to cut off:

- the ones where LP CTR is low and with big amounts of clicks made on lander and no conversions;
- the ones where LP CTR is okay and with big amounts of clicks to offer and no conversions.

I am not checking the subids where the spend is lower than the rate of my offer.

I did not use statistical calculator, however, I found some in other tutorials.
Still not sure how to use it effectively. And I do not have that much data to analyze, honestly.

Hi Community!
Wish you a happy start of the Year!
I had some rest and a chance to think it all over.


I have to change my approach to choosing the offer.
I plan to research more and find a working combination of an offer and a traffic source.
I discussed the offers with affiliate managers before. As you know, it is harder to discuss things when you are new to affiliate marketing and it is harder to make managers tell more about actually profitable offers. It happens sometimes that in the beginning of a cooperation managers promote certain offers where they want traffic and push them to you. Which is understandable.


I understood that to find a working combination of an offer and a traffic source one must dedicate enough time to Spying.


I see two options.


1) SimiliarWeb + ManualSpying
2) SpyTools


The 2d option is clear. I plan to get free trial acces (where it is possible) to 2-3 SpyTools and spend some days looking at campaigns that
promoted for the longest time
not an expensive GEO
allow popunder traffic


I was thinking about Adplexity (for mobile), Admobispy. I am looking for some more options for popunders.
Most of the SpyTools I found deal with native, push, video.
As an idea, the main issue is the geo and the less popular the geo is the easier to find creatives and promoted offers.




The 1st option is a bit tricky.
I plan to look at some big adult tubes and see where the traffic comes from going backwards.
I mean adult tubes that have lower ranks and have more ads displayed on them. And these tubes have less requirements as for ads displayed and not so strict policy.
I decided to check this theory first.


Some members mentioned a Chameleon extension for manual IPSpoofing. It helps to mask your devise as a diffirent one. If you are lucky, you can see an add on a web-site.
Can anyone recommend some more extensions or tools for spying for creatives?


I will dedicate this week to spying.
Will share my experience with you soon.
Stay tuned!


P.S. By the way, had a chance to talk to spytools managers. Top priority was to find out whether these spytools have an option where I could paste the domain and see what creatives, offers, etc are being run there.
Two of managers confirmed that it is possible. Hooray!
I already found some low rank domains with ads and I will check them with spytools to compare the results.


P.S.S. Took CodeAcademy CSS and HTML cources. Highly recommend this resource. Now I am excited to dive into JavaScript. The beginning was a bit confusing.

Originally Posted by alexiz

I have to change my approach to choosing the offer.
I plan to research more and find a working combination of an offer and a traffic source.
I discussed the offers with affiliate managers before. As you know, it is harder to discuss things when you are new to affiliate marketing and it is harder to make managers tell more about actually profitable offers. It happens sometimes that in the beginning of a cooperation managers promote certain offers where they want traffic and push them to you. Which is understandable.

I understood that to find a working combination of an offer and a traffic source one must dedicate enough time to Spying.

P.S.S. Took CodeAcademy CSS and HTML cources. Highly recommend this resource. Now I am excited to dive into JavaScript. The beginning was a bit confusing.

Hi,
Hope everyone is having a great time here!


Long time passed since I posted any results of my tests with various offers.
It is the high time to share some good news with you about the tests that were made this year.




Before I start speaking about the offers, I want to share some things about spying.


First of all, I tested a new tool for popunder. It is called AdMobiSpy.
It is the second tool I had an opportunity to work with and I can only compare it with Adplexity.


Adplexity has a greater variety of traffic sources and affiliate networks.
AdMobiSpy has lesser networks in their catalogue.
However, right now I am gravitating towards AdMobiSpy and that is why:
- good support;
- great searching tools (for example, I can search creatives in landings, transits, apps, site, and not only in URLs, but landing texts, landing redirects and meta titles.
- it is nice to see the whole redirect chain for each creative, especially taking into the account the kind of spying that I used. Check this below.


Overall, these tools look quite similar (not to offend or anything, just pointing out the designs and layouts).
Adplexity has more networks included and more data.
AdMobispy has better search tools in my opinion.


I hope they will add more affiliate networks and SSPs soon. Planning to buy subscription for mobile (where they have banners) too.


Secondly,

I tried to spy manually on adult tubes with lower ranks. Why tubes? Just want to test some adult datings.
-step 1- Looking for adult tubes with low ratings, for example, not higher than 10K globally.
One can certainly check out something like tubecorporate's tubes which have nice ranking to get the idea of what is running.
But it would be hard to compete with them.

So that is why I chose some unpopular or weird sites, sometimes really weird if you know what I mean.
-step 2 - I used a couple of VPNs and browsers to see what ads are running and made a list out of them.
Tried to find the offers and networks that have these offers.
Also tried to find out what traffic sources were used for promoting them via redirects.

-step 3- Prepared a wishlist and started to talk to affiliate managers. Found some offers from the list, got these approved.
I am in a process of preparing the creatives for them.


This method is not the best one. But such type of work helps to grasp the whole idea of spying, and easy for beginners like me.
it doesn't require as much money as spytools.


As a result I made a list of 36 offers which are running frequently, found the traffic sources that were used for them.
I have found 17 offers in networks, chose to run 6 and they were approved.
The most important now is to make these offers bring some money.


This type of research was very enjoyable, if you know what I mean.

Now let's get back to offers that were tested in the beginning of January.


1) Pin Sumbits for Turkey.


I had 2 offers - Antivirus and Cleaner.
Each of them had 2 prelandings.


The payout for one was $2.5
second - $2.7


I used Exoclick traffic. Only Antivirus offer converted. It brought me 3 leads for $2.7
I paused the Cleaner one the next day because I spent a lot on it in vain.


Cloned Antivirus, increased the bid on it and hoped to see more leads.
Saw some advice that it might be a good practise to set up 2 campaigns for 1 offer, increase the bid on one of them, which makes a competition.


This resulted in 0 leads.
The advertiser did not like the traffic from the source so I paused the campaigns till I find new one.


The second try and the offer I am running now is an Edge extension.
It is for English-speaking countries and for Germany.
Finally, I saw green color in Binom. I thought this would never happen with me.


I started with 1 campaign, targeted everything which is allowed by the advertiser.
The next day I saw 8 leads and cut down some carriers and sources. This helped me to go to 0 ROI.


The amount of traffic I was receiving was not enough so I cloned a campaign and set up a narrow targeting with higher bid.
The next day there were +17 leads. And the ROI was positive for the second campaign. Finally, I thought.


The third day There were +14 leads and I run out of cash, huh. The Binom was green. Finally, I was thinking while making a second deposit in the account.



Right now I am setting up new account on different SSPs.
My affiliate manager recommended some other networks.


So, how did I find the offer that brings me some $?


Weeks of manual spying, hours in Adplexity, talking to other members, excellent optimization by sources and carriers, you think?
No, just a quick message from my affiliate manager who recommended me this offer. Don't even know why I decided to run it.


Not sure how I feel about it, haha.




Here is a screenshot of my almost green Binom:



I will share the results of my adult dating adventure with you once I have the news.


By the way, does anyone know more Edge extension campaigns? Please, private message me.

P.S. Sorry for the small screenshot. I checked this tutorial however I had some tech issues and was very excited to share the post and could not wait

Wow! You've only joined a month ago - as a new affiliate - and breaking even already? AND for tier 1 geos no less! That's beyond impressive! No doubt a result of much hard work, creativity, and a pinch of luck mixed in! Congratulations!

Thanks for the comparison between AdMobiSpy and Adplexity! I've never used AdMobiSpy. I'm sure some members will find the comparison useful.

If you like to do manual spying on adult sites, here's an old post that still has some great information:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...Dating-in-2015

Hi Amy,
Hope you are well!

I see that Clickdealer has one. And I see an adblocking add-on at Zeydoo. Not sure whether these are active or not, or how well they convert. But you can reach out to find out.

Hi,
hope everyone is having a great day.


I am back with the update about the new extension offer that I am running now.


The offer converts nicely and the advertiser told that I can increase the amount of traffic.


Unfortunately, it was not possible because of rather narrow targeting.


The first thing that came to mind was to create more campaigns in the traffic source dashboard with various whitelists.
And also to start creating campaigns with some other traffic sources.




I checked the hours of the day and tried to find the ones where I had most of the leads. Added new campaign where only profitable hours were targeted.
It was done yesterday and right now there are still no conversions. To be honest, the amount of traffic coming to this campaign is very small.


As of now, I have 220 conversions and the payout is different fo various geos. Some of the campaigns have positive ROI. I spent around $300 on traffic.
220 conversions is not much but it motivates me to keep working on it more.




This led to opening new accounts with some other SSPs.
I decided to test clickadu and adsterra.
I hardly had any leads from adsterra, unfortunately. I paused my activity there.

As for clickadu, this traffic source showed good results, which is 27 conversions.
The manager also shared with me the whitelist of the best-performing zones. I made 2 campaigns in Clickadu.
This was very nice bit it did not increase the number of conversions significantly.


Also faced some interesting thing during my test with Clickadu.
The campaign was set to run only Microsoft Edge traffic.


In the tracker and in the advertiser's account I noticed some conversions coming from Google Chrome.
This was a bad surprise.


The traffc source team said this happens sometimes. It is a matter of how DWH defines browser's fingerprint.
As for them, their database is updated on a weekly basis and there is no way that the leads came from Chrome.


Found the user-agent log in the advertiser's account and checked how it is defined by various decoders.


I was relieved to see that the leads defined as Chrome in the advertiser's dashboard were decoded as Edge.


Now I will at least have the proof for the advertiser.
By the way, could you please tell if anyone has ever encountered this issue with Affise?




I found the same offer but from another affiliate network. I set it up but unfortunately it did not work at all.
It is strange because the offer is totally the same (the payuouts higher, though).
I checked the codes and they are identical.
Does anyone has any idea why the same offer from a different network is not working?

One of the reasons that I can think of is that users are tired of the same creative. Perhaps I should set up a new lander on my side to brighten it all up a little.




One more update about the US offers that I was running as my first ones.
Android cleaner offer - All the leads were rejected because of bad quality . I paused this offer.
iOS VPN - the leads were approved ($340), as I meet the KPI's requirements. I paused this offer because the advertiser has some tech maintenance.


Today I am setting up a bunch of new adult dating offers. Wish me luck!


Looking forward to share the updates.

Encouraging progress @alexiz!

Originally Posted by alexiz

The offer converts nicely and the advertiser told that I can increase the amount of traffic.


Unfortunately, it was not possible because of rather narrow targeting.


The first thing that came to mind was to create more campaigns in the traffic source dashboard with various whitelists.
And also to start creating campaigns with some other traffic sources.

Hi @vortex,
Hope you are well!

Thank you for your comment!

Hey,
hope everyone is well!


Just wanted to share some news about my affiliate adventures, especially with adult dating offers.


During my research I saw that lots of adult datings were run on banner ads on exoclick domains.
This led to me deciding to test exoclick banners.
I had a whitelist of web-sites for exoclick where I frequently came across these ads (around 90-100 zones).
I decided to start with these offers:


CuntEmpire
FlirtHits
Casual Dating
Cam4


all of them for DE, desktop


I set up several campaigns, some for popunders, some for banners.


I also had a whitelist of zones for popunders. It seemed strange that even if I used the necessary (targeted) IP and device I never saw my ads on these sites when I was browsing them.
Perhaps I did not browse enough and/or my ads weren't competitive.


Another strange thing with banners. Maybe someone already faced it and can share their ideas about it.
My chain looks like this:
Banner - lander - offer page


Exoclick counts banner impressions and clicks
Binom counts impressions and clicks made on lander and then offer page.


For example,
I see 100 700 impressions and 460 clicks for banner campaigns in Exoclick.
I see 170 clicks in total in Binom (counted on a lander).


It looks like the banners were seen 100 700 times, were clicked on 40 times, and then the users were redirected to my landers. And there was 170 clicks made on a lander after 40 clicks made on banner, which is strange, because this lander was used in connection with these campaigns only.


The tracker support suggested I used LP pixel and this could double up the click. I didn't.
It would be typical if there were more clicks made on banner and less made on lander. But it was not my case. It was the opposite.


So I contacted traffic source. They suggested it was due to some clicks coming form cache.


Even if this lander was used for Exoclick's campaigns only, please note that some traffic might have still arrived via other channels, such as users accessing from cache or which accessed after the campaign stopped running.
The only way to isolate these users from the traffic that comes from Exoclick is by finding out the IPs from these clicks and blacklisting them in your tracking solution so that they are no longer counted. By doing this you will be able to bring down the numbers of the tracking solution to a number closer to Exoclick's results.


Okay, but who has the time to request the IP reports from the traffic source and compare them and then blacklist them on a daily basis?
Why should I do THIS instead of working on increasing the ROI?


I decided to continue with popunders on exo and test another banner traffic source.





So let's get back to offers. I had close to zero conversions. Maybe 1 for CuntEmpire and 1 for CasualDating. I tested adsterra, clickadu, exoclick nad zeropark. Everything popunder.
I increased the bid significantly. It did not affect the productivity. It was my last attempt to convert popular Tier1 geo. I totally agree that as a newbie I should not even have started with US or DE. Even my Clickadu manager told that there is a high competition for CuntEmpire offer.


So now I am looking for Tier-3 datings. Hopefully, I will do better with them.




Another good thing for me is that I finally realized that I can fit a lot of offers with the same targeting into 1 campaign in the tracker.
And hence, to spend less money on testing due to the fact that I can distribute the traffic evenly between the campaigns. Yes, I know, please, don't judge me.





Let's talk about good things. Utilities are still on fire.
I have nice results with the extension offer.
However, I noticed that I started to have lesser number of conversions per day. As mentioned earlier, I think it is because of users getting tired of the same creative.
I contacted the advertiser and asked if I can change it on my side. The advertiser offered to create a separate link with a new creative themselves.
I am still waiting for it but hope to receive it soon.


Launched one more CPI utility multi-geo offer for android.
It works like a charm. The rates are extremely (EXTREMELY) low. I think for some geos 1 push click can cost more.
I created several campaigns. One for African countries and another for CIS countries.
The other day I also created a 3d campaign where I targeted the geo with most conversions.


Overall I had 136 installs. I spent $46. The ROI varies from -85% to - 92%.
Please, bear in mind that the rates are low.
I decrease the bids for traffic and try to find the ones that can still bring me enough traffic/conversions and at the same time not to make me bankrupt.







Day by day I learned how to optimize by subids and IPs. If one checks stats by hour, one can see that it became productive. However, I kept adding more and more new geos for tests, so that is why my ROI per hour were not high.
I noticed that most of the conversions came from specific geos, like KG BY AM PK KW.


I am thinking about finding new offers with the same vertical, flow and geo (not exactly the same but similar) but with good rates.
Hope it'll work fine for me.


Will share the results of my next steps soon.


P.S. Just heard back from the advertiser, after all, they decided not to create a separate tracking link. It is okay, because I still can add a lander on my side






P.P.S. One of my old partners contacted me and offered to add push code for collecting push subscriptions.
I thought it is a good idea as an extra source of traffic monetization.


It made me think how many push subs it takes to make 1 conversion and how one can see if the push sub is not useful (non-convertible) anymore.
And one more question how one can understand that subscriptions collected from one zone (page) are not profitable and when one should stop.
Looks like I need to make more tests with push.
If anyone has any experience with it, please, contact me.

Originally Posted by alexiz

Okay, but who has the time to request the IP reports from the traffic source and compare them and then blacklist them on a daily basis?
Why should I do THIS instead of working on increasing the ROI?