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How to create your own Push-Notifications (32)


07-07-2018 06:42 PM #1 mrbraun (Moderator)
How to create your own Push-Notifications

Hello, guys!

I think it's not a secret that Push-Traffic is very popular now, and there you can see very good results. I recommend to read these articles first:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...n-Propellerads
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...Ads-(Bulgaria)

Today we will create our own pushes for our own campaigns. So, you will collect users and if you're running a good amount of traffic, you will have a big base of users that you can monetize! And it will be already free traffic!


Domain

First of all we need a domain with HTTPS. Just buy any domain (I recommend to use .com). Then go to https://www.cloudflare.com. We need to connect our domain to this service. When you do this, you'll get free SSL certificate for your domain + a good CDN, which will increase the speed of your landers.

1. Click "Add site", write your domain and click "Add site" again.


2. Click "Next"


3. Choose "Free" plan, it will be enough for us.


4. Add 2 A-records to your domain:
Name: "@", IPv4 address - IP of your server, Automatic TTL, Orange cloud.
Name: "www", IPv4 address - IP of your server, Automatic TTL, Orange cloud.
And make sure you have 2 records after this like on my screen:


5. Put these NS-Servers to your domain (you can do this in the place where you bought this domain)


6. After you set the DNS servers, click this button:


7. After you're domain is "Active', you can use "https://domainname.com" for your LPs.


Platform

1. Go to https://onesignal.com
This service allows us to send PUSH notifications. You will setup all thing there, put the code to your LP, and you will start to collect users for FREE!
We need "Web Push Notifications", so click the button and sign up.


2. Click "Add a new app" and enter the app name.


3. Choose "Web Push" and click "Next"


4. Enter your site name (you can use what you want) and your domain with "https://". You can also add icon if you want.


5. Then we need to Add a Prompt, so click the button.


6. Choose SLIDE Prompt. I recommend to customise the text. So we have several ways:
In "ACTION MESSAGE" you can write:
- "Are you 18+?" for dating, adult
- "Do you want a free iPhone X?" for sweeps
And all you want So be creative! I use "Are you 18+?" for all verticals.
You can also see there how your push looks.


7. You can also setup Welcome-message after successful subscription, but to be honest I don't recommend to do this.


8. Leave these settings.


9. Then you have to download SDK files and put them to the top-level directory of your domain. Also don't forget to set 777 attributes.
You will see your JS code that you should put to all your LPs. Write it after <head> tag. Otherwise your push will not work. Click "FINISH"



RESULT

After you set it up correctly and put all JS codes to your page, when you open the url (only HTTPS) on Android or Chrome Web browser, you will see this:



Users

One the "USERS" page you can manage your subscription list. When the user is subscribed, you can see his device, country and language


I recommend to create segments based on GEO, and then you can easy send them messages.



Messages

1. It's very easy to create a PUSH. Just click the button.


2. Choose the segment. Or you can also send push to all your user or to particular ones.


3. Choose the language and write text and description. I recommend to use emojis, it makes the CTR higher.


4. Upload:
- icon 192x192
- image 360x240 (the system recommends this size, but try to "play" with the size and choose the best one.
- small icon 72x72
And enter the URL. People will be redirected there when they click


5. You can also schedule your pushes or send it immediately.


6. Click "Confirm" and "Send message"


Results

So examples of pushes. On WEB:


On Android:


You can see statistics for each of your messages


Soooo... Now you need only to send the traffic and collect the base. More traffic = More base = more messages you can send.

If you have any questions, please ask

Good luck!


07-07-2018 07:05 PM #2 manu_adefy (Veteran Member)

What's the unsub rate for these usually?

Do people have to go into their phone or browser settings to stop them or is there an easy way to unsub?


07-07-2018 11:41 PM #3 rwan99 (Member)

Dang dude, I was in the process of figuring this out and you posted. Thanks. I can't believe you guys are sharing this stuff.

One Signal is free but they sell your information right


07-08-2018 12:14 AM #4 moneym (Member)

Nice tutorial.. Thank you

Side note: I do not recommend newbies doing this... I have an account with pushnami with around ten thousand subscribers.. it just doesnt convert well.. Sure you can get you investment within a month or something if you're lucky, but for me it was just not worth the hassle.

Speaking of that pushnami account, if anyone wants it let me know.. Spent around $4k to acquire those subs... no longer using it.. So hopefully someone can make $ out of it.. I didn't.. PM me, first come first serve


07-09-2018 03:38 AM #5 erikgyepes (Moderator)

Great write-up man!

Would you mind sharing some stats as well?


07-09-2018 09:25 AM #6 dr_franz (Member)

Great share mrbraun, thanks!


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07-09-2018 10:15 AM #7 pierren (Member)

Thank you for the share !

Quote Originally Posted by moneym View Post
Nice tutorial.. Thank you

Side note: I do not recommend newbies doing this... I have an account with pushnami with around ten thousand subscribers.. it just doesnt convert well.. Sure you can get you investment within a month or something if you're lucky, but for me it was just not worth the hassle.

Speaking of that pushnami account, if anyone wants it let me know.. Spent around $4k to acquire those subs... no longer using it.. So hopefully someone can make $ out of it.. I didn't.. PM me, first come first serve
Yes, I use onesignal since few month and I have 50k of users, each message I have generally 10% of CTR but I lost same % of users. Give me +/- 80$ by shoot.

It is very interesting as a new traffic axis but it must be taken into account that it lowers your conversion rate on your landings and that the ROI can be long. In the long time it will be profitable but between the fall of the CTR and the loss of members in each shoot I haven't found the right balance personally.


07-10-2018 04:36 AM #8 Mr Payne (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by manu_adefy View Post
What's the unsub rate for these usually?

Do people have to go into their phone or browser settings to stop them or is there an easy way to unsub?
There's a settings option accessible with each message that allows the user to unsub. Otherwise, they can go into their browser settings to unsub.

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Push has indeed become popular this year and while Mr Braun gave a good intro write up, the more awareness something is given the less effective it becomes due to competition/saturation.

I don't recommend OneSignal if you are serious about trying this. For the short term it can work but you are risking alot by relying on a 3rd party and even more so if you do not read and follow the fine print in their terms.

OneSignal does sell your information and I imagine that after this blurb from Mr Braun, they will have an influx of new sign ups, a big increase in server expense and start to clear out the hundreds of "suspicious" accounts that they find.


Andrew


07-18-2018 10:48 PM #9 rwan99 (Member)

You're making up the ipv4 addresses in cloudflare, right?

Or, do you get it from somewhere?


07-19-2018 12:05 AM #10 servandosilva (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Mr Payne View Post
There's a settings option accessible with each message that allows the user to unsub. Otherwise, they can go into their browser settings to unsub.

--

Push has indeed become popular this year and while Mr Braun gave a good intro write up, the more awareness something is given the less effective it becomes due to competition/saturation.

I don't recommend OneSignal if you are serious about trying this. For the short term it can work but you are risking alot by relying on a 3rd party and even more so if you do not read and follow the fine print in their terms.

OneSignal does sell your information and I imagine that after this blurb from Mr Braun, they will have an influx of new sign ups, a big increase in server expense and start to clear out the hundreds of "suspicious" accounts that they find.


Andrew
Agreed.
Onesignal is not the service I'd use for this kind of marketing. I have thousands of subscribers with it in white hat niches though with a CTR between 10-20% and a super low unsub rate but for CPA marketing I'd look for a less known solution...


07-19-2018 12:45 AM #11 rwan99 (Member)

7. After you're domain is "Active', you can use "https://domainname.com" for your LPs.

Im confused about this, cloudflare doesnt host any files, you need your own CDN to host right? How do you upload landers to this?

Ah, so namecheap is a name registrar, you need actual hosting to use cloudflare, their CDN cant host files... I will confirm soon


07-20-2018 05:18 AM #12 rwan99 (Member)

There is a LOT more to this than just the tutorial. Its actually quite complicated. You need a host that's fast - cloudflare doesn't host and you need to know the difference between between a prompt and a permission request, and how to install the SDK properly and modify it for your host.


08-06-2018 10:40 AM #13 sergey_ar (Member)

Many thanks, great guide! OneSignal is probably the best solution out there to start.


08-08-2018 03:02 PM #14 vudhaltd (Junior Member)

Hi Guys,
How do i get the IPv4 address?
Thanks


09-03-2018 07:29 AM #15 eurosen (AMC Alumnus)

I keep seeing pages who collect push subscribers but when I look at the code they don´t seem to be using Onesignal.

Anyone knows how to do this without using Onesignal and giving them my data?


09-04-2018 09:17 PM #16 mrbraun (Moderator)

After all my tests I can say that One Signal is really not bad. Especially if you're not going to collect millions.
My tech guy wrote me a script so I'm collecting now using Google API. If you're interested I can ask him how to do this, cause I don't like all this tech stuff


09-05-2018 01:11 PM #17 mrbraun (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by symba3 View Post
please do! would greatly appreciate that.
Ok! I will try to write ASAP


09-05-2018 06:04 PM #18 Mr Payne (Member)

Yes, OneSignal can and will work no problem. Of course, being mindful of their terms in which they have conditions, they also collect and sell your data. For those who have less technical skills a service like it or another will be the best course of action for low volume.

Getting into building your own script, setup/managing servers, databases, etc. is a very different story, just be mindful of what you are getting into. You can basically go to AdPlexity, find a landing page with custom code (those not using a service like OneSignal), rip it and then hire a developer to handle any backend setup/configuration and changes that you need to make the code usable. And then start thinking about what you do with those subscribers after you get them.

Also a note, with the recent Chrome 68/69 browser updates there are negative impacts taking place for this method (and pops in general). And it only takes one simple change from Chrome to kill this entire method - clock is ticking.



Andrew


09-05-2018 07:02 PM #19 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by Mr Payne View Post
Also a note, with the recent Chrome 68/69 browser updates there are negative impacts taking place for this method (and pops in general). And it only takes one simple change from Chrome to kill this entire method - clock is ticking.Andrew
We shall see ... a recent chrome update was already supposed to kill POP, wasn't it? And from what I can tell, it didn't happen. Push will be regulated in some way for sure, but I hope it will stay around in some form, it's a pretty powerful way of reaching customers.


09-07-2018 06:47 AM #20 Mr Payne (Member)

I'm just saying.. Pornhub no longer offers pops for Chrome Mobile traffic, that's a pretty big chunk of pop traffic to lose.

Of course, that doesn't stop me and shouldn't stop anyone else from diving in - but certainly worth noting.


Andrew


12-12-2018 01:41 AM #21 sushiparlour (Member)

Great write up MrBraun, am interested to try something similar but was wondering whether you have a good suggestion on tracker choices? As I'm just thinking how you would track the overall cost and lifetime of a push notification etc. As the traditional tracking method seems a bit limited for it. Or do you do something manual? Interested to get some details on this.


Quote Originally Posted by mrbraun View Post
Hello, guys!

I think it's not a secret that Push-Traffic is very popular now, and there you can see very good results. I recommend to read these articles first:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...n-Propellerads
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...Ads-(Bulgaria)
...


12-12-2018 03:08 AM #22 eurosen (AMC Alumnus)

I read somewhere in the Onesignal documentation that you can use webhooks?

So you could potentially ping your tracker everytime you have a new subscriber and a certain value to a subscriber.

Not sure if this would work, just a suggestion.


12-12-2018 02:28 PM #23 zeropark (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by sushiparlour View Post
Great write up MrBraun, am interested to try something similar but was wondering whether you have a good suggestion on tracker choices? As I'm just thinking how you would track the overall cost and lifetime of a push notification etc. As the traditional tracking method seems a bit limited for it. Or do you do something manual? Interested to get some details on this.
Waiting for MrBraun's opinion here as well, but if I may chip in, wanted to recommend running Push with Zeropark as we are getting more and more success stories about campaigns with crazy LP CTR over 50% and impressive CTR on creatives. I'll be happy yo share them - just PM me

Tracking is a key point in any successful campaign, so it is better to have this set up before sending traffic. There are many solutions on the market, but you might find Voluum best option for tracking with Zeropark as these are fully integrated.


12-12-2018 06:42 PM #24 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by eurosen View Post
I read somewhere in the Onesignal documentation that you can use webhooks?

So you could potentially ping your tracker everytime you have a new subscriber and a certain value to a subscriber.

Not sure if this would work, just a suggestion.
I played with onesignal a bit, they don't have an easy way of doing this as they don't support dynamic tags in urls ... but they do assign a unique ID to every subscribed user and there is some kind of api to use, so with some coding it might be doable. But hard for me to judge since I am not a coder and didnt push my coder to dive deeper into it.


12-15-2018 07:50 AM #25 sushiparlour (Member)

Hm... so anyone know an out of the box way to track subscription to push list or another provider (even paid ones) that can ? The webhooks on onesignal seem to be for tracking the notification messages (as they only fire during notification displayed, clicked and dismissed), am trying to confirm this with their support.

I guess the last resort is like what Matuloo suggested and look into the coding and get it to fire a postback on subscription but would rather pay for the solution than dig through it (as I'm just an amateur at coding :P)


12-15-2018 08:24 AM #26 eurosen (AMC Alumnus)

But isn't that exactly what you need? A click on allow is a new subscriber so a conversion.


12-16-2018 12:10 AM #27 sushiparlour (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by eurosen View Post
But isn't that exactly what you need? A click on allow is a new subscriber so a conversion.
Still experimenting with no luck, if someone knows better let me know?

I have 2 suspicions,:
1. webhook only fires when its for the actual push notification (and not for subscriptions) in which case webhook can't do what we need.
2. webhook can't pass the necessary information back (such as click id) - though this could be me setting it up wrong, am still testing though I would expect it to be just "https://postbackurl.com?tracker_token=clickid"

So far I've tried webhook = postback url and passing it with the click id as part of the URL and have not got it to work. Problem is it is also hard to see errors as some of it is on onesignal's end (and my server is not set up to track all traffic that comes in). Since its the weekend support is not replying so might need to wait on them.

Alternatively I'm using funnelflux so I might try to get it to fire the iframe/conversion pixel conversion instead. Will share my solution once i figure it out though happy for someone to guide me if they know


12-20-2018 05:29 PM #28 sushiparlour (Member)

Okay with the help of the support from Funnel Flux (thanks Anthony) I got a tracker to fire properly. Concept is to fire an iFrame using javascript once someone changes their notification permission. I didn't share my code as its a bit specific to what I'm doing but the concept is there and if you PM and I have time I'll try to help.

Webhook seem to be used for actual notifications and not the subscription side of it, I'll probably be looking to track that part next.


12-21-2018 11:17 AM #29 mrhurricane (Member)

I'll try this thing for sure!


04-23-2020 05:28 PM #30 jeremie (Moderator)

Hello @mrbraun
I found this tutorial, which seems interesting to be able to retarget users with several offers.
A few questions:
- Is this strategy still working in 2020?
- Do you still recommend to use OneSignal?

Thanks!


04-24-2020 04:38 AM #31 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by jeremie View Post
Hello @mrbraun
I found this tutorial, which seems interesting to be able to retarget users with several offers.
A few questions:
- Is this strategy still working in 2020?
- Do you still recommend to use OneSignal?

Thanks!
Not sure if mrbraun will be around for the next few days, so lemme answer your questions.

Is this strategy still working in 2020?
We were all expecting strict regulations for the push format to happen this year and google really introduced a set of rules and changed some functionality, but for now it seems that the format is safe and they do not plan to cut it in a drastic way. So yes, building a push list is still a good option for 2020.

Do you still recommend to use OneSignal?
Onesignal is a good platform, but it can get costly with bigger lists.

Check this thread, there are quite a few other platforms mentioned: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...n-Push-Traffic

And this thread might be of interest too, in case you haven't seen it yet: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...on-Subscribers

Cheers,
Matej


04-25-2020 05:26 PM #32 jeremie (Moderator)

Thanks a lot Matej!


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