Sweepstakes 101 - Part 8 - Peter's System (27)
If the loads and loads of tips from the experts in previous posts aren't enough to make you excited enough to give sweeps a try, this post will definitely push you over that edge.
I've decided to put my interview with Peter Leung - @itzpeter is his STM username - in its own post, because he has practically revealed his complete system for you to follow.
His system is very similar to @stickupkid's - in fact, Peter attributed his success to @stickupkid's posts (which I've linked to in a previous part of the guide). But as people always do, Peter has put his own twist on it, and filled in some of the blanks. So between this post and @stickupkids' posts, you should be able to glean enough information to start running SOI sweeps on Facebook.
Peter is a very humble guy. I'm honored to have met him at AWA last year and then at AWE this year - his decision to drop by the STM booth and sharing his success has given me the opportunity to "coerce" him into sharing his success story with the STM community:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...acebook-Sweeps
And being the awesome person he is, he also agreed to an interview on the spot:
Originally, I was planning to organize our chat into sections, like I did with all other interviews. But then I thought it may be more interesting to just paste our entire conversation here in its full glory - I feel that it would be a sweet respite from the rigidity of my typical, structured guides. So, aside from some mild editing, you'll receive nearly every bit of delicious morsel in our exchange.
Enough talking - here's our conversation.
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Amy: First off: Best networks and advertisers. Care to recommend?
Peter: So, my first profits was from Advidi, and working with them for a couple months helped me make my first big profits for 3 months straight and I was able to quit my job.
I would definitely recommend them before others.
They are super nice and always answer my questions, even after office hours.
However, recently I have also worked with Gotzha & Traffic Panda, they have some good offers as well.
Regarding advertisers, I like working with networks more, just so I'm protected on the payments.
The weekly payments also helps with cash flow for new affiliates.
Amy: I've never heard of Traffic Panda! Do they specialize in sweeps?
Peter: They are like a mix - they're a network with their own offers.
I think they are kind of new, but they work with you like crazy.
Whatever you need, they make on the spot.
Amy: Are you talking about stuff like custom-made offers?
Peter: Yeah custom made. 24/7 always on call.
I love that haha - because I live half-way around the world.
Amy: Next question: Best traffic? Targeting tips? Tips and examples on creatives?
Peter: I only mastered facebook traffic - I am 100% facebook all the way.
Mostly targeting mobile on FB.
The best GEOs that have been going for me since the beginning of my profit days are Germany, Italy, France, and Belgium.
So creatives - this is the biggest tip that will change your life.
Regarding facebook ads, IMAGE matters big time. Images are super duper important.
If someone gets banned and you both are using the same image, facebook will take you out, usually just removing the image, but worst case scenario you will also get a banned.
Anyone can go on google images and just download images right?
So you have to alter the image to make it different.
Crop it, for example.
Make the algorithm think its different, and you should be smooth.
Amy: Are you focusing on SOI/DOI/CC Subs?
Peter: SOI. DOI is okay, I don't touch CC submits because I don't cloak or track.
SOI is the money maker.
Amy: Ah nice - was about to ask about cloaking! So how many accounts are you using now if that's not a secret?
I'm assuming you're spreading out your spend over multiple accounts to fly under the radar?
Peter: Currently I have 9 active ad accounts.
Amy: They were bought accounts? Or rented?
Peter: They were farmed from scratch.
And I do spread out the spend over the accounts to fly under the radar.
Nothing above 400 spend a day.
Amy: Why 400? Is that what you or stickupkid have found out from experience?
Peter: I just like the number haha.
Sometimes I go to 500, because it's half of 1k.
200 is safer but I want more money haha!
Amy: Next question: Any tips on targeting? Testing and optimization?
Peter: So, because I don't cloak, or track, the way I target and optimize is a little different than most.
For targeting I love doing 30+ females - because older women love converting and ad networks always asks for older age people for better quality.
I do no interest 90% of the time, and let facebook kind of auto target for me.
Let the algorithm do the work.
The audience size will be higher and the profits last longer.
Testing budget is always 25 dollars a day.
Anything -30% or better, can turn into green.
The way I optimize, I choose the best CTR and CPC.
So easy, right?
I believe the whole point of FB ads is just to make people click on it, nothing else really matters.
It's the landing page that affects the conversion rate.
And since I don't track, choosing the best numbers on the board works for me.
And it's been working.
Amy: This reminds me so much of what stickupkid's always saying - back to basics! No cloaking no tracking no complicated methods or tools - just good old testing of images and text and offers and landers, and picking the best.
Peter: Yes - I feel like people are over thinking it too much with all the numbers. Its actually not that complicated
Amy: So then I'm assuming you'd need to test one offer, one lander, one ad per ad set?
Peter: 3 ads per ad set.
If you have more than 3 ads, you will start to notice some ads barely get any traffic, or the CPC is just horrible. So what's the point right?
If you want to test more than 3 ads, create another adset.
So yeah: One offer -> one lander -> one adset -> 3 ads.
Amy: Makes a ton of sense! So if you're wanting to split-test offers and landing pages and images etc., you must have a ton of ads and adsets.
Peter: Yes.
Amy: And you're not using any tools to do that? Like Qwaya?
Peter: Nope. I do it the good old fashioned way.
Sit here for 2 hours, and click the same crap all day long. Its very annoying lol!
Amy: I bet! I've used Qwaya back in the day - it let you mass-create campaigns. But nowadays you risk an account ban when you create camps too quickly.
Peter: Sounds like a nice tool but yeah - creating camps that fast, would be too obvious.
Amy: So what types of landers are working well now?
Peter: I tested a lot.
The best for me, is simple 3-4 question survey landers, with social proof on the bottom.
Always have social proof. Just add it in there somehow.
Get 3 things right:
Brand image on the top.
Questions in the middle.
Social proof on the bottom.
Boom done.
Can be all white background if you want, converts like a charm haha!
Amy: Social proof - I'm assuming it's not FB comments?
Peter: Oh yeah if you are cloaking, make it look like facebook.
If not, don't make it look like facebook haha!
Amy: Where did you learn how to farm accounts? Just thought I'd ask - because that's like the last piece of the whole puzzle.
Peter: I just buy aged accounts (8-9 years old) and farm them for 2 months.
That's the new technique. And they work better than ones farmed from scratch.
The seller I'm using, I even bought like 50 phone numbers from them, and verified all my farmed accounts.
Before that, my VA would farm them from scratch.
Amy: When you farm them, basically you'd just post daily to mimic what real users do right?
Peter: Yeah.
So first month, you post things every couple days.
But mostly, you just play games, like bejeweled blitz.
Then second month you start to add friends, and post more.
Have some convo with random people like catfishing style.
Like some pages.
Go on there and scroll up and down for 2 minutes.
Like and comment on posts.
Not too hard. People just over think it.
Amy: And you use multilogin?
Peter: Multilogin + luminati.
Amy: I think I'm out of questions! You've dropped, like, a TON of gold!
And the whole thing is so elegant, so simple! 80/20 rule at it's best. And no cloaking no tracking - that's like so great for newbies!
Peter: Cool. I'm glad I can help!
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That's it! No more needs to be said. I kept this post simple and elegant - just like Peter's system.
Amy
Links to Entire Guide:
Intro+Index | Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 | Part 5 | Part 6 | Part 7 | Part 8
Fine. You got me. I'll start running sweeps on FB next 
Originally Posted by jaybot
And I'm sure @stickupkid and @itzpeter wouldn't mind the competition - there's lots of gold in them thar hills!Amy
Originally Posted by vortex
And I'm sure @stickupkid and @itzpeter wouldn't mind the competition - there's lots of gold in them thar hills!Amy
Interested to know how campaigns can be run with no tracking? Or am I misunderstanding what is being said here?
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Originally Posted by netfreedom
I can imagine the majority of the people is in for a prize draw to win something. It’s a trick to attract them differently, but yeah I agree with tracker you are more able to optimize.
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Anyone try Peter / Stickupkid's methods NOT on FB? I can't get my accounts that make me money mixed up with personal stuff, so it would be interesting to see this method used on some other form of advertising.....
Originally Posted by vortex
Amy: And you use multilogin?
Peter: Multilogin + luminati.
What does "Multilogin + luminati" mean and doesn't Facebook track, if we keep logining from the same device?
Answer: Ok got it, these are proxies server but then for each fb account do we use dedicated proxy?
@vortex, @itzpeter or any expert: I have a question-
If we use so many different fb accounts, so do we need different bank account with different people name on it, or can we use same credit card for all the accounts?
Yes @taormina I've made money with Stickupkids and Peter System, the only problem I'm facing is my accounts are getting banned really fast...so I'm trying some other traffic sources for running Sweepstakes offers, like Push Traffic and all.
lots of great info, I will restart fb campaigns soon.
Thanks @Amy!
Originally Posted by mahakal
If you PM itzpeter, he may be able to recommend a good service.
Amy
@vortex This guide has been a revelation! True marketing heaven. Thank you so much. Once I am relatively confident that I won’t embarrass myself I may do a follow along. Thanks again.
Originally Posted by harvcam
As for embarrassing yourself - that's just a silly worry!
We've all been newbies ourselves once. Nobody will laugh. We all know what a challenge it is when you're learning the ropes, especially since it's not as easy now as it was when some of us were newbies ourselves years ago.When you're ready, go for it! We'll all be rooting for your success.
Amy
Originally Posted by vortex
As for embarrassing yourself - that's just a silly worry!
We've all been newbies ourselves once. Nobody will laugh. We all know what a challenge it is when you're learning the ropes, especially since it's not as easy now as it was when some of us were newbies ourselves years ago.When you're ready, go for it! We'll all be rooting for your success.
Amy
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Amy: Social proof - I'm assuming it's not FB comments?
Peter: Oh yeah if you are cloaking, make it look like facebook.
If not, don't make it look like facebook haha!
soooo.. does that mean my fresh lander I'm having made to run on fb is gonna get banned instantly cos it has fb style social proof at the botton?
LOL.
Any tips on what to do here??
Originally Posted by octapad
Regarding FB-style comments: That kind of stuff is just risky, and is therefore not recommended. It would be like teasing FB to their face.
Lots of legit websites have customer testimonials. Basically model yours after those.
Or, just use an FB spy tool to see examples. In one of the parts of this sweeps tutorial, I gave out some lander examples. Please go through those to see if you can find examples. If not, let me know, and I'll do further digging.
Amy
First of all I would like to thank you for the great info.
I would like to ask if it is necessary the bank accounts to be with different people names. Can FB see the bank accounts names? And is it necessary the CC name to be similar with the FB profile name.
I have red somewhere that FB don't see the account holder name is it true?
Thank you,
Originally Posted by mist13
Are the virtial CC trustworty ?
I have heard that this is a reason FB flagging you.
Originally Posted by mist13
Hey, started to run sweeps on fb by using Peters system.
Can someone further explain when it comes to the usage of Multilogin and luminati?
Thanks in advance!
Gesendet von iPhone mit STM Forums
Originally Posted by oliver
(Hint: Go to blackhat forums and do a search on those 2 keywords and you'll find a ton of info.)
Amy
introduce some blackhat forum thanks
Originally Posted by fuyuzhelianmeng
2)Do a search on "blackhat forums".
Amy
One simple question... it may seem silly for experts... but in simple terms what is the difference between say PopAds and say Big Bang Ads? do they do the same and do they just provide a network for you to carry out your tsrategy and put your visuals?
Originally Posted by digitads
Since this post I have done a bit more research and actually have a small trial campaign running. However I want to try googleads. I have set up and managed Google Ads campaigns before. But in simple terms if I have a GoogleAds account currently linked to say my company's website, can I run affiliate campaign here by just changing the landing page of the specif ad to the affiliate link?
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