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SiteScout Fake Clicks? (26)

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I have been testing SiteScout for little over a week now.
I tested this one site yesterday(Friday) afternoon and I saw something really weird.
My SiteScout stat was showing 285 clicks but my cpvlab was showing 6 clicks and network stat was showing 4 clicks.
I checked Destination Click URL from SiteScout campaign, checked the cpvlab link and affiliate url a few times but everything seemed to work fine.
This was my 10th campaign so I know how to set things up.
I tested again today but same thing happened.
I even setup new ppv campaign to see if clicks are showing and they are showing right amount of clicks.
All I can think now is that these were not real clicks but when you think about it,
nobody(site owners and SiteScout owner) has reason to cheat since they charge and we pay by cpm.
I am really lost..could be system error(2 days in a row)?
Has anyone experienced something like this before?

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1. Contact your sitescout rep and ask them "wtf bro" they are very helpful and will look into it.

2. Maybe its the site you're targeting is it gaming/anime/blog sometimes they are up to no good, started making trouble in my neighborhood (fresh prince).

3. try small test DL to offer using network link to make sure its not CPVLabs

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as the russian has posted talk to SS there really good about getting you an answer....

a few other things to check....

make sure you have desktops only selected....

also not sure why your using cpvalbs with their platform.....you can set up all of the tracking in their platform....

I find I get better results just using their tracking than adding another layer in (202, cpvlab)

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@polarbacon : you mean using their adserver ?

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you can set up your entire camp in site scout....thru the self serve platform....

it tracks everything.....

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@The Happy Russian
1, this has happened Friday afternoon, will talk to Steve Monday.
2, I can't find any reasons why they would do it(pay&paid by cpm).
3, It is not cpvlab, I didn't test dl to offer but I did test with another traffic source(ppv from TV).

@polarbacon
can you explain little more please?
do you mean by using affiliate url in Destination Click URL from SiteScout or is it something else?

Oh and I only use Windows 7/Vista, Windows XP, Windows (Other), Mac OSX and Target all browsers under Devices and Browsers to target.

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he means that you can directly place the sitescout tracking pixel in your cpa network..you'll then see exact stats within sitescout: cvr, top performing banners, ecpa etc...so you dont really need a third party tracking solution..

you'll find more info here:

http://docs.sitescout.com/display/rtb/Conversion+Pixels

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I am using both cpvlab and sitescoute tracking pixels.
I can't really see anything without sitescoute tracking pixel if I test more than 1 site and 1 banner in one campaign.
I just want him to explain why it is better not to use cpvlab.
I like to split testing lps and offers with cpvlab.

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I don't like to use cpvlab for 3 reasons

1. Just another redirect to add in....
2. It can fuck with your metrics....makes it hard to under stand whats working and whats not.....there gets to be to many variables going on at once....
3. I like the "auto" features at sitescout you can just fire off a camp and forget about it....come back later and its paused stuff that isn't working....adding in diff payout offers etc....can really fuck that all up....


when its so easy to just launch a new camp there....instead of setting something new up in cpvlab....why take the extra step?

I found that doing LP optimization with VWO or like that conversion 202 thing is better and gets you better actionable data....esp on flog/farticale shit....

for example for dating I might just test "ladies" first banner wise and not even get into lp's/offers to much.....you really have to get the clicks first......then you can fuck with the rest....you can have the best converting lp on the planet but if your CTR is like .02% on your banner its highly unlikely you will ever be profitable.


thats my 2 cents anyways......

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I really don't understand what you are saying for 3rd reason but I still appreciate it for trying to help me.
Where can I find about this "auto" features?
We probably have different features between my RTB and your Adserver.
What is Adserver anyway, what advantages do I get for using Adserver and how much will it cost me?
I am on RTB not on Adserver yet, still trying to learn this whole media buying stuff.

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just go trough their help document..there's anything in it you need to know about auto optimizations, tracking pixels etc.....
http://docs.sitescout.com/display/rtb/Auto-Optimization

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Thank you.
I have seen Auto-Optimization and Audience Targeting features but I haven't gotten to them yet.
I didn't know that polarbacon meant by this.
I will look through Auto-Optimization feature later today.
Thanks again.

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When you add the tracking pixel to an affiliate network from sitescout, usually they only have one slot for the pixel, how do you add more? I know some people make a .php file and just put the pixels there but for me that usually doesnt work and some dont fire that way... any special way or trick?

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if not mistaken, some have more than one slot

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you can always contact your am and tell him to place a second,third pixel

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Nusolutionz... love your answers ... talk to the rep! It's always the simplest solution.

Seems like affs rather mess with code and over complicate things than simply call their rep lol

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I had a similar incident - clicks were costing 0.001c - I was jumping out of my seat with excitement thinking I'd struck gold, only to check Prosper to see that 800 clicks in 10mins on SS only equated to 3 clicks in Prosper -

Brought it up with Steve, my account rep - he was straight on it and said it was more than likely click fraud and it was be addressed asap.

Only spent about $5 -

Their team is very on the ball, and very quick to respond. Only thing i find is they don't have approval guys working over the weekends from what I can tell.

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Please explain to me why would they cheat?
what would they gain from click fraud?
btw, I sent email to Steve first thing this morning.

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I believe he meant click fraud from publishers.

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Yes I know.
So why would publishers do it?
what would they gain from click fraud?

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talk to your rep

you might be getting fake impressions = hence fake clicks to make them look more "legit"

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Wouldn't this open up your entire campaign to your network revelling traffic sources, http refers, etc.. and risk getting it copied?? The main reason I'd use Prosper is for cloaking.

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Its really not in sitescout best interest to steal you stuff....and really 202 provides no protection

it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out if your banking, spending 1k a day on a site and they see the banners you use....its pretty easy to assume what your doing is working.....whether they can see the full stats or not...really makes no diff

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No sorry I mean the affiliate network stealing your traffic sources

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unless your doing some serious volume they for the most part could careless....and from site scout most of the time your not gonna see much....as lot just show rubicon or whatever adnetwork you happen to be buying from

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thanks polar...one needs to trust somebody before getting higher volumes and risking more

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