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IQ Canada Has Made Me Over $40,000 (profit)! Here's My Guide Through.. (49)


07-04-2011 07:19 AM #1 stackman (Administrator)
IQ Canada Has Made Me Over $40,000 (profit)! Here's My Guide Through..

Offer
Skill2Thrill Canada (CA)
The longest running top performing IQ quiz for Canada. I've ran this on/off for 1.5 years

Traffic Source
Facebook

The Key to profit with this now
Advertising to males 30+
(30 year old men don't fill out this shit… Is that what your saying? Well your terribly wrong, they are my #1 converting demographic for this offer. Also this isn't a 1 time thing. I used to do major IQ leads about 3.5 years ago, and they converted amazing then too.

Here's all the info you need to take this campaign and make it profitable.

Demographics
I advertised this to almost every age and demo using diff images. Demo's in order of most profitable.
1. Males 30 - 45
2. Males 16 - 23
3. Females 17 - 25

Images
IQ is one of my largest niches of all time. I've tested many many angles, one of the better ones for me in late 2010 was using images of girls with exceptionally large tongues lol :|


Another angle which brought me more volume was a mix of optical illusions + 'is this real' type of angles.


Using titles like
- Is this real?
- How many eyes?
- 2 or 4 eyes?
- How many fingers
etc..

Tips
- This campaign is about getting as many people as you can to the offer page for as cheap as possible. The cheap clicks will rule. So don't worry much about landing pages. For 80% of the $ i made with this campaign i didn't use a landing page.

- If you are going to use a landing page around an angle or something then use these 2 icons. I used them on 1 of mine which had a positive impact on conversions.
- Canadian flag + Facebook icon



- Run in CPM
I've found with a lot of campaigns when i run CPM i will get traffic that has lower conversion rates then if i was bidding in CPC… but the benefits of bidding in CPM is if you have a decent CTR you'll get cheaper clicks then CPC bidding. With that said run this campaign at first in CPC, once you break even or get close to breaking even with your top ads, then remake those ads into CPM and you should instantly see a ROI boost of 20%+.

Download my FB images (from above)
http://www.fileserve.com/file/xnc9Skr
http://www.fileserve.com/file/fbqG2GS


07-04-2011 07:22 AM #2 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

Stacks... whats the deal how you getting IQ through nowa days.


07-04-2011 07:40 AM #3 stackman (Administrator)

I honestly have very little problems getting it approved internationally.
- i don't mention the words IQ, intelligence, or test in the copy and if i do i add 'subscription required'

Have you tested anything on FB since Melbourne?


07-04-2011 08:01 AM #4 movingshadow (Member)

can't download the files... :-(


<edit>
*lol it works with IE


07-04-2011 08:07 AM #5 ppvnewbie (Member)

works fine here, no problems with download? What message you get?


07-04-2011 08:26 AM #6 tradeconscious (Member)

Thanks for this, as I am new to this, a quick question. Is there any merit is creating a FB app pointing to the offer page or rather user say Pretty link to mask the t202 URL? Thanks


07-04-2011 12:08 PM #7 tradeconscious (Member)

weird, I set up 5 ads, 1 was approved and is chugging away at 0.112 CTR and 3 dead similar ads were disapproved, wtf?


07-04-2011 12:23 PM #8 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by tradeconscious View Post
weird, I set up 5 ads, 1 was approved and is chugging away at 0.112 CTR and 3 dead similar ads were disapproved, wtf?
welcome to facebook......I had one image that was killing it for a similar camp(very lame image wasn't dating).....tried to scale it to other countries.....50% of the time it wont get approved.......BUT ITS THE SAME IMAGE...LOL.....one of the reasons why people hate fb sometimes.....no consistency in approvals......


07-04-2011 12:42 PM #9 tradeconscious (Member)

The only one that was approved had no ? in the title, I wonder if that makes a diff?


07-04-2011 02:06 PM #10 brianb (Member)

Thanks for the sweet info. Can you give examples of the ad copy you used when you didn't mention IQ or subscription required?


07-04-2011 02:28 PM #11 tradeconscious (Member)

FB lapproved 1 out of 5 the long tongue one, CTR staedy at 0.117% but no conversions yet


07-04-2011 02:38 PM #12 ppvnewbie (Member)

Guys I really hope you don't all use the same angle as Stack used ;-) Get creative and try own ideas as well...


07-04-2011 06:32 PM #13 groomez (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ppvnewbie View Post
Guys I really hope you don't all use the same angle as Stack used ;-) Get creative and try own ideas as well...
^^this all day. Then we're gonna get people coming in saying, "ITS NOT WORKING!!!?!?!11one" lolololoolo


07-04-2011 06:50 PM #14 tnakov (Member)

Do we risk our accounts if we promote mobile stuff like that ?


07-04-2011 07:01 PM #15 tradeconscious (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by groomez View Post
^^this all day. Then we're gonna get people coming in saying, "ITS NOT WORKING!!!?!?!11one" lolololoolo
true very funny mate, LMFAO


07-04-2011 09:28 PM #16 vidivo (Member)

What ad title did you use for the girl images? Cant seem to figure out how to relate it to IQ tests... "Is Her Tongue Real?" etc. im assuming lol


07-04-2011 09:32 PM #17 crysper (Member)

Maybe something like: Longer tongue, smarter?


07-04-2011 10:12 PM #18 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by vidivo View Post
What ad title did you use for the girl images? Cant seem to figure out how to relate it to IQ tests... "Is Her Tongue Real?" etc. im assuming lol
you don't need to relate it alot of the time....the image just gets them to read the headline....


07-04-2011 10:53 PM #19 ben565 (Member)

did you use any keywords?


07-04-2011 11:39 PM #20 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by stackman View Post
I honestly have very little problems getting it approved internationally.
- i don't mention the words IQ, intelligence, or test in the copy and if i do i add 'subscription required'

Have you tested anything on FB since Melbourne?
I tested FB (mobile) and got dissaproved for path... will try some dating soon, thanks for reminding me


07-05-2011 04:13 AM #21 mickeyp (Member)

I have been trying to get my IQ quiz ads through in Canada for about a week and I get disapproved everytime. Any tips on the best way of getting IQ quiz ads approved?


07-05-2011 12:59 PM #22 rich (Member)

Is this the offer in question? http://ca.skill2thrill.com/CA/901297227


07-05-2011 07:58 PM #23 mickeyp (Member)

Yep sure is


07-05-2011 08:57 PM #24 marcovandaar (Member)

Jordan,

Did you use any keywords with these campaigns or none to get high volume traffic?

If you made an LP for the ilusion pics, or the tongue pics: how did it look like? what did it say? what did you test to get hich CTR ...etc


07-07-2011 02:51 AM #25 stackman (Administrator)

@tnakov
I'm not 100% sure on the rules of international mobile, but i don't have issues usually other than retroactive disapprovals which can sometimes be due to my ads themselves and not the offers. With that said Canada will probably be disapproved faster then lets say Indonesia for any offer a Facebook reviewer doesn't like.

@crysper

Maybe something like: Longer tongue, smarter?
sweet angle idea!

Like @polar said though, matching the angles isn't always necessary, its getting the cheap clicks from the right demographic.

@marco
I direct linked most of the time, certain ages convert a lot better so track! Also i didn't use keywords, get 5 cent clicks from 29-35 yr olds and your golden!


07-07-2011 04:57 AM #26 socaep (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by stackman View Post
@tnakov
I'm not 100% sure on the rules of international mobile, but i don't have issues usually other than retroactive disapprovals which can sometimes be due to my ads themselves and not the offers. With that said Canada will probably be disapproved faster then lets say Indonesia for any offer a Facebook reviewer doesn't like.

@crysper

sweet angle idea!

Like @polar said though, matching the angles isn't always necessary, its getting the cheap clicks from the right demographic.

@marco
I direct linked most of the time, certain ages convert a lot better so track! Also i didn't use keywords, get 5 cent clicks from 29-35 yr olds and your golden!
I tried to promote mobile in Indonesia. My ads got disapproved within 1 min and after that they disabled my account..


07-07-2011 05:06 AM #27 dantheman (Member)

@socaep - You sure it wasn't because of your other campaigns or other reasons?
I'm pretty sure they didn't disable your account just for that.


07-07-2011 05:19 AM #28 socaep (Member)

@dantheman

Other than that I had a previously disapproved campaign promoting clickbank stuff about a month ago. Could be because of that.


07-07-2011 05:20 AM #29 shoent (Member)

hey stack, im kind of new to the mobile submit vertical but i have been running a us offer with a good bit of volume lately. How stable are these type of offers when it comes to scrub and up and down epcs? also from your testing in canada are there certain times of the day that you noticed bad conversions, i mean in 2 days of testing for me it seems that at night like after 11am until 10am conversions are pretty bad. My main issue is how stable is this vertical and is it something sustainable. BTW im not running on fb, im doing alot of site placements via media buys


07-08-2011 08:38 PM #30 stacksofgreen (Member)

Getting a decent CTR on this campaign using just the default guidelines stack put up, but Skill2Thrill is not converting too well thus far on the demo....8 cent epc. Anyone seeing higher EPCs?


07-08-2011 09:36 PM #31 chillyh2o (Member)

Any LP examples?


07-09-2011 08:46 AM #32 drhfmn (Member)

Are you running this cloaked now?


07-12-2011 09:35 PM #33 stacksofgreen (Member)

Getting awesome CTRs, but not a single offer to convert. Skill2thrill and My Mind Quiz CA both failed and landed around an 8 cent epc. Anyone know of any other offers I should try?


07-12-2011 09:38 PM #34 nusolutionz (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by stacksofgreen View Post
Getting awesome CTRs, but not a single offer to convert. Skill2thrill and My Mind Quiz CA both failed and landed around an 8 cent epc. Anyone know of any other offers I should try?
you can sarch for similar offers on offervault.com or simply ask your am if they have a better iq offer available...


07-12-2011 09:39 PM #35 nusolutionz (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by chillyh2o View Post
Any LP examples?
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...03-Is-This-You


07-26-2011 08:38 PM #36 nusolutionz (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by stacksofgreen View Post
Getting awesome CTRs, but not a single offer to convert. Skill2thrill and My Mind Quiz CA both failed and landed around an 8 cent epc. Anyone know of any other offers I should try?
8 cent epc is not bad for an iq offer..try to get the ctr up..if you can get a 4 cent cpc you win :-)


07-27-2011 01:44 PM #37 optimex (Member)

Nice... I didn't know you can get international IQ approved on Facebook :O. IQ is amazing with media buys. I'm going to dominate it on FB now. lol


07-30-2011 10:08 PM #38 machete ()

Does anyone have tips on getting this approved on Facebook internationally? I'm targeting an Asian country, testing the waters there. Unfortunately, my first batch was disapproved. Should I just keep trying while uploading random easy to approve ads to keep my approval ratio up? Or should I just do a bait and switch?


07-30-2011 10:20 PM #39 godspeed (Member)

I was running IQ in Netherlands and Norway and Spain with CPM 0.03-0.05 with no results. I tried many IQ offers, but nothing converted. I kill the campaigns. I used MaxMind GeoIP for offer hiding from FB team.


07-30-2011 10:24 PM #40 machete ()

That sucks, godspeed.

So I tried submitting again with sporcle.com as my URL...disapproved instantly. Maybe try again later today or at a different time tomorrow?


08-02-2011 05:03 AM #41 stackman (Administrator)

From what i know Skill2Thrill CA is still a top CA offer, but shit is ever changing so i never know forsure.

@machete Keep trying, theres prob 500 diff faebook ad reviewers (if not more) and some will approve your ads unless they are directly against the rules.

@godspeed I ran IQ in the netherlands 2 years ago, and it had some of my highest conversion rates ever. I have no idea what offer it was though, prob doesnt exist still. Spain, Italy, Germany and a couple other countries are pretty saturated right now.


08-02-2011 05:26 AM #42 machete ()

Quote Originally Posted by stackman View Post
@machete Keep trying, theres prob 500 diff faebook ad reviewers (if not more) and some will approve your ads unless they are directly against the rules.
It's an enterfactory.com offer and that URL seems to be flagged by MyWOT.com...


08-02-2011 10:01 PM #43 machete ()

Does anyone have suggestions for the time of day to try submitting ads? I just got RAPED in disapprovals for a Jersey Shore mobile offer in CA. Got the usual "destination URL" and "MyWOT" reasoning. Should I wait a bit before resubmitting?

Edit: I think it's just because the redirect URL is for some lotto offer. So I'll put in a non-affiliate link of the Jersey Shore LP in CPVLab then just swap it out for original offer.


08-03-2011 11:23 AM #44 movid (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by godspeed View Post
I was running IQ in Netherlands and Norway and Spain with CPM 0.03-0.05 with no results. I tried many IQ offers, but nothing converted. I kill the campaigns. I used MaxMind GeoIP for offer hiding from FB team.
I also tested an IQ offer for Holland. Got an extremely high CTR (.35) and low CPC as a results (pennies!) but guess what...500 clicks and zero leads.

To be honest I can't imagine why someone would sign up for those mobile offers. Everyone knows it's a rip off, right? I'm beyond surprised to read that stackman was targeting men > 30 and making money with it!


08-10-2011 02:59 AM #45 mediumpie (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by machete View Post
Does anyone have suggestions for the time of day to try submitting ads? I just got RAPED in disapprovals for a Jersey Shore mobile offer in CA. Got the usual "destination URL" and "MyWOT" reasoning. Should I wait a bit before resubmitting?

Edit: I think it's just because the redirect URL is for some lotto offer. So I'll put in a non-affiliate link of the Jersey Shore LP in CPVLab then just swap it out for original offer.
machete - I've come to find that the best time of the day is actually around 1:30a - 3:30a EST. They seem to be super super responsive then. Try it out and let me know what you think!


08-10-2011 03:46 AM #46 stackman (Administrator)

@movid

To be honest I can't imagine why someone would sign up for those mobile offers. Everyone knows it's a rip off, right? I'm beyond surprised to read that stackman was targeting men > 30 and making money with it!
Mobile and all CPA offers are big, you don't want to assume what people think until you test it for yourself!
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...yesterday!-%29


08-10-2011 01:15 PM #47 movid (Member)

Yeah you're right, but it just doesn't make sense to me because it costs money and the users know that. But your guide definitely shows it can be done so thanks for that! I tested a few mobile offers and I haven't had any conversions yet (over 500 clicks) but I will try to come up with a different angle.


03-09-2012 08:46 AM #48 benzing (Member)

I lauched a NL IQ test offer several days ago , and got 250+ clicks, 0 convertion ....


03-10-2012 09:17 PM #49 paycoguy (Member)

Do they allow IQ ads on FB or do you need to cloak?


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