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10-29-2021 07:31 AM #1 Rhino (Senior Member)
What Motivates you to Work Everyday?

I had read somewhere that after you make around $75,000/year you happiness plateaus.
That is, any money that you make on top of $75,000/year, has no influence on your happiness.

And i have seen the same phenomenon in my life. From $0-$10,000/month. I used to get up early in morning, used to work extra hours, refresh my stats million times a day and i used get very excited, everytime i get a conversion.

But after i started making more than $10,000/month, the urge to do all that disappeared.

So, i want to ask this question to all the super affiliates, what is something that gets you up in the morning and motivates you to work hard.

For someone who makes $2000-$3000/month it makes complete sense that he needs money for survival. And it's okay for him to work 8-9 hours a day.

But someone who makes $100,000/month. What motivates you to scale your business to $1 million/month(or more). Is it the urge to buy ferrari, lamborghini or other material things. Or what is it?

Thing about affiliate marketing is that, it's a thankless job, even if i make $100,000/month, i will not get any social recognition or praise from anyone. Such accomplishment will only stay between me and my manager and no one else in this world will ever come to know.

Plus, i have 0 affinity towards the product that i am selling because i don't own that product.

And by selling more and more affiliate products, it's not that we are making this world a better place or doing something for humanity. Affiliate marketing is all about making fake promises and aggressive selling. Basically, i am screwing others to make money for myself.

Currently, i spend only 1-2% of what i make. The rest of the money goes into investments or i give it to my parents.

My only motivation to work right now is that, i have nothing else to do, if i don't work, my life will become boring. That's my motivation to work.

I want to know other people's perspective on what gets them up in morning and what motivates them to work everyday?


10-29-2021 09:03 AM #2 jack_l (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
I had read somewhere that after you make around $75,000/year you happiness plateaus.
That is, any money that you make on top of $75,000/year, has no influence on your happiness.

And i have seen the same phenomenon in my life. From $0-$10,000/month. I used to get up early in morning, used to work extra hours, refresh my stats million times a day and i used get very excited, everytime i get a conversion.

But after i started making more than $10,000/month, the urge to do all that disappeared.

So, i want to ask this question to all the super affiliates, what is something that gets you up in the morning and motivates you to work hard.

For someone who makes $2000-$3000/month it makes complete sense that he needs money for survival. And it's okay for him to work 8-9 hours a day.

But someone who makes $100,000/month. What motivates you to scale your business to $1 million/month(or more). Is it the urge to buy ferrari, lamborghini or other material things. Or what is it?

Thing about affiliate marketing is that, it's a thankless job, even if i make $100,000/month, i will not get any social recognition or praise from anyone. Such accomplishment will only stay between me and my manager and no one else in this world will ever come to know.

Plus, i have 0 affinity towards the product that i am selling because i don't own that product.

And by selling more and more affiliate products, it's not that we are making this world a better place or doing something for humanity. Affiliate marketing is all about making fake promises and aggressive selling. Basically, i am screwing others to make money for myself.

The reason, i am asking this question is because for last couple of months i am going thru existential crisis. I ask this question to myself (everyday) "Was i born just for making money or is there more to life than making money?"

Currently, i spend only 1-2% of what i make. The rest of the money goes into investments or i give it to my parents.

My only motivation to work right now is that, i have nothing else to do, if i don't work, my life will become boring. That's my motivation to work.

I want to know other people's perspective on what gets them up in morning and what motivates them to work everyday?
Seems like there's a thread like this every few months on here... must be a somewhat common situation... see the same thing on crypto twitter alot too...

Anyway my man, I would posit a two part answer:

Part One: You need to keep investing the money and once you have enough cash-flowing investments to cover your living expenses, you can quit affiliate marketing if you want. E.g. if you live on 30k a year then get 800k producing a safe 5-10% return per year then this will cover your expenses and continually give you more money to-reinvest. The whole Rich Dad Poor Dad thing basically.

Part Two: Then, you have complete freedom to do whatever you want, so figure out what you want to do, and what legacy you want to leave. E.g. travel, write books, make music, start a podcast, romance beautiful women, get married and have children, lift weights, climb mountains, sale ships, do amateur MMA fights, coach sports, build houses, fund causes you believe in, etc. Or build companies if that's your passion. Whatever you want your legacy to be when you are gone from this earth basically.


Finally, you said "And by selling more and more affiliate products, it's not that we are making this world a better place or doing something for humanity. Affiliate marketing is all about making fake promises and aggressive selling. Basically, i am screwing others to make money for myself."

What are you running? I agree there's a few verticals that are really icky and dishonest, but I've also seen people say that about Clickbank VSL's and ecom gadgets and stuff, and I would push back if that's what you're talking about, I think you're being too hard on yourself. I think us young guys judging these old ladies for buying Diabetes vsl's is really no different than old ladies judging us for buying video games or something... just because its not something WE would buy doesn't mean its dishonest or unethical... people are vastly different... with that said though yeah if you're doing really dishonest repeat billing stuff or tech support scams or fullout nutra blackhat with worthless products then perhaps pivot to stuff like Life Insurance, Solar, Mortgage, ecom gadgets, stuff you can feel good- or at least neutral- about, etc.


10-29-2021 10:25 AM #3 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

I don´t need to motivate me every day.

It´s a job for me and some days I absolutely love what I do, some days I don´t feel like working at all but in the end I just have to do it anyway.

I don´t motivate myself, I just do it.

Luckily most of the time the good days where I love my job prevail


10-29-2021 11:07 AM #4 Rhino (Senior Member)

I also like affiliate marketing. It's better than doing 9 to 5 job (that i had earlier).

Maybe i shud not blindly chase money.

I think i shud prioritize happiness, friendship, love over money. Maybe that might change my perspective towards this topic.

Also, you do tend to get this feeling when you are promoting someone else's products.

If it was my brand/product, i wud nurture it, care about it and I wud have never had these feelings even with billion dollars in sales.


10-29-2021 11:33 AM #5 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Maybe i shud not blindly chase money.

I think i shud prioritize happiness, friendship, love over money. Maybe that might change my perspective towards this topic.
I see it that way: When you just blindly chase for money you will never be 100% satisfied because you always have the feeling there is more to make.

I know what I need to pay my bills and to have a good life and that´s a number I can calculate with.

Everything above is great but not necessary.

I have the best job I can imagine, I have the best wife on earth, we have a nice house in the countryside with a big garden for our little zoo, my wife is also self employed with stuff that she loves doing anyway.

In the end I already have everything I want and everything I need to make me happy, blindly chasing for more and more money wouldn´t make me happier.
It would probably even make me less happy because then I wouldn´t focus anymore on what I already have but instead focus on what I don´t have.

Also, you do tend to get this feeling when you are promoting someone else's products.
No, promoting other peoples products is no problem for me.

Of course having own products has several advantages but so does promoting other people products.

- I don´t have to take responsibility about production and shipping
- I don´t have to do customer service
- I don´t have to deal with legal stuff
- I can choose between thousands of things to promote without making any of these myself

Everyone is different but in my opinion it´s generally better to find happiness away from a "more and more money" mindset because you can easily get trapped in a neverending circle of dissatisfaction when you always have the feeling to don´t have enough/don´t do enough/miss something out.

When you know what you need to be happy it´s easier to achieve it than just thinking "Happiness = A Lotta Moolah" where you then forget to take care about the real important things in life while you hunt for ever growing number that never can be 100% satisfied.


10-29-2021 11:45 AM #6 s14b23 (Member)

Nothing beats freedom.

So I am looking at affiliate marketing as a way to get this freedom.
Do what I want when I want.

Currently I can provide for my family as an online marketeer for agencies, but even as a freelance marketeer you're still a puppet for the companies you work for.

And as I am starting in affiliate I still see it as a 'game', getting to the next level.
But I know that will go away (sadly you get used to stuff).

So to get this freedom I have to get at the level of earning good money.
Really don't have to be the richest dude in town, know plenty of rich people that are miserable as f*ck.

Without no further ado I will get back to my 40 days tutorial of @vortex



10-29-2021 11:51 AM #7 Rhino (Senior Member)

i don't deny that, i went thru the same trajectory as you. I am talking about problems that comes with making lot of money. Wud someone sacrifice his happiness for little extra money if he is already making more than $75,000/year.

Quote Originally Posted by s14b23 View Post
Nothing beats freedom.

So I am looking at affiliate marketing as a way to get this freedom.
Do what I want when I want.

Currently I can provide for my family as an online marketeer for agencies, but even as a freelance marketeer you're still a puppet for the companies you work for.

And as I am starting in affiliate I still see it as a 'game', getting to the next level.
But I know that will go away (sadly you get used to stuff).

So to get this freedom I have to get at the level of earning good money.
Really don't have to be the richest dude in town, know plenty of rich people that are miserable as f*ck.

Without no further ado I will get back to my 40 days tutorial of @vortex



10-29-2021 11:57 AM #8 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Nothing beats freedom.

So I am looking at affiliate marketing as a way to get this freedom.
Do what I want when I want.
Exactly, many people see affiliate marketing as their chance to make huge amounts of money in short time.

I rather see it as my chance to work wherever I want, whenever I want, promote whatever I want, run campaigns worldwide, 24/7, no need to stay local or take care of shop opening hours.

More or less total freedom in every aspect.

And as I am starting in affiliate I still see it as a 'game', getting to the next level.
But I know that will go away (sadly you get used to stuff).
This is so true, the first years I did so many crazy and random things just to find out what´s possible and what not.

There I was so creative to come up with new stuff to test.

Over the years I learned what works for me and focused on it.

Of course that´s not the worst thing that can happen but it also led to some kind of tunnel view and sometimes I really miss the crazy old times because there was so much fun involved as well.


10-29-2021 12:53 PM #9 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Personally I do have a financial threshold that I don't feel like I need to go over So something like the $75k you mentioned just somewhat higher.

When I'm below it or feel like I might fall below it soon, I will work my ass off. Once I'm above, there is nothing in the world that would make me sacrifice more of my time than needed to maintain it.

This system has it's flaws for sure. My business has crashed a few times over the years and I'm quite sure that had I worked harder it might have not happened.

But that's simply the way my brain works When my son wants to go fishing, we go... even if that costs me $$$ in lost revenue down the road. When the weather is nice and the grill calls my name, I simply fire it up and treat my family or friends with some good food, even if it cots me $$$ down the road When my wife or kids want to go for a trip, we go even if...

The important thing to note: I always make sure all the necessary work is done! When I commit to get some work done, I will get it done. I know what my day-to-day work tasks are and I will always make sure I finish what I'm required to finish. But when it comes to investing more of my time just to make somewhat more money past the threshold of mine, I usually refuse to do so

One more thing to add: My kids are still young and I would hate to be one of those parents who realize at some point that they are financially secure but somehow they forgot to spend time with their now-grown-up children. So once they grow up, my approach might change too.


10-29-2021 01:28 PM #10 Rhino (Senior Member)

cool man it makes lot of sense.

Yeah, $75,000 is for USA. In my country. That threshold might be around $16,000/year.

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
Personally I do have a financial threshold that I don't feel like I need to go over So something like the $75k you mentioned just somewhat higher.

When I'm below it or feel like I might fall below it soon, I will work my ass off. Once I'm above, there is nothing in the world that would make me sacrifice more of my time than needed to maintain it.

This system has it's flaws for sure. My business has crashed a few times over the years and I'm quite sure that had I worked harder it might have not happened.

But that's simply the way my brain works When my son wants to go fishing, we go... even if that costs me $$$ in lost revenue down the road. When the weather is nice and the grill calls my name, I simply fire it up and treat my family or friends with some good food, even if it cots me $$$ down the road When my wife or kids want to go for a trip, we go even if...

The important thing to note: I always make sure all the necessary work is done! When I commit to get some work done, I will get it done. I know what my day-to-day work tasks are and I will always make sure I finish what I'm required to finish. But when it comes to investing more of my time just to make somewhat more money past the threshold of mine, I usually refuse to do so

One more thing to add: My kids are still young and I would hate to be one of those parents who realize at some point that they are financially secure but somehow they forgot to spend time with their now-grown-up children. So once they grow up, my approach might change too.


10-29-2021 01:52 PM #11 jack_l (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by s14b23 View Post
Nothing beats freedom.

So I am looking at affiliate marketing as a way to get this freedom.
Do what I want when I want.

Currently I can provide for my family as an online marketeer for agencies, but even as a freelance marketeer you're still a puppet for the companies you work for.

And as I am starting in affiliate I still see it as a 'game', getting to the next level.
But I know that will go away (sadly you get used to stuff).

So to get this freedom I have to get at the level of earning good money.
Really don't have to be the richest dude in town, know plenty of rich people that are miserable as f*ck.

Without no further ado I will get back to my 40 days tutorial of @vortex


Well said!


10-29-2021 04:17 PM #12 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
cool man it makes lot of sense.

Yeah, $75,000 is for USA. In my country. That threshold might be around $16,000/year.
I'm also in a country where many people still make less than 1000 eur per month, so I COULD settle with less as well, but I like to keep certain standard for me and my family


10-29-2021 04:39 PM #13 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Looks like you got some really solid advice here:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...akes-you-happy


And here's another thread on the topic:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...rned-500k-cash


Some of the posts in this thread are also relevant:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ume-Affiliates


Money is just a tool. Many people believe money is what they want - it's NEVER money itself that they want.


Ultimately my personal advice would be this:

Identify your passions and your life's purpose. Then find a method of making money that will align with those.


Where this is not possible - or not YET possible (e.g. need more seed money first) - look for money-making methods that you at least don't hate.

And where even THAT is not possible - having a plan will help. e.g. "I will keep working on this business-I-hate until I make $xxxxxxx more, then I'll sell it and really pursue [life's purpose]".

For most people, the hardest part is identifying one's life purpose. It takes some life experience and soul-searching. And sometimes, it just can't be rushed.

Meditating often can really help. Establishing better connection with the divine can help MASSIVELY depending on your religion.

You may find that by chasing your passions / life's purpose, the money will naturally roll in - that would be the ideal situation.


Thing about affiliate marketing is that, it's a thankless job, even if i make $100,000/month, i will not get any social recognition or praise from anyone. Such accomplishment will only stay between me and my manager and no one else in this world will ever come to know.

Plus, i have 0 affinity towards the product that i am selling because i don't own that product.

And by selling more and more affiliate products, it's not that we are making this world a better place or doing something for humanity. Affiliate marketing is all about making fake promises and aggressive selling. Basically, i am screwing others to make money for myself.

You've already given a glimpse of what you're wanting to pursue in life.
-Social recognition
-To own something
-To make this world a better place, doing something for humanity


So - start brainstorming! Come up with ideas for products or services that you can create to help mankind!

And then - you can use your media buying skills to market it.


It sounds like you've got the seed money. This would be the next logical step in your journey.

I still have one foot in affiliate marketing, but I've also branched out into providing a service that is completely different from affiliate marketing. I'm transforming people's lives by helping them to live in more joy, enjoy better relationships with loved ones, and have more successful businesses. And I'm feeling more fulfilled than I ever did just running affiliate offers alone.

Also, like @jack_l was saying, not all affiliate products are scams. There are perfectly legitimate products and services that can bring great benefits to users. You just need to be selective.

All the best!




Amy


10-29-2021 04:44 PM #14 martinbe (Member)

Once I red one very powerful thing which changed my whole life.

It's not about what but who.
I'll explain.

If you are motivated by your own Goals, you can fail. The types of procrastinations we have out there are a lot!
You can give up because of the stress, because of the procrastination, because in that moment you feel like you deserve a break and so on.

The only real way to not give up is to find someone who means to you more than yourself, and do it for that reason.
Bottom line: do it not for your self but for someone else who you are responsible for.

Do it of your child, do it for your mother, do it because you want to give them a better life, do it as everything depends from you. Doing like this, when you will be turning on that Netflix show, you will feel like you are wasting your time. You fill turn off Netflix and you will seat in front of your laptop and you will continue to hustle.

Do it for someone else, not for your self. When doing it for your self, you will always find a reason to give up.
So maybe the motivation is this, they are doing it for someone else.

I'm a father and when I see my son sleeping, I wake up and fo to hustle: better schools, better future, etc.

I'm not a super affiliate by the way. Still not even in my 50$ per month :-D ahahah


10-29-2021 04:57 PM #15 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by martinbe View Post
Once I red one very powerful thing which changed my whole life.

It's not about what but who.
I'll explain.

If you are motivated by your own Goals, you can fail. The types of procrastinations we have out there are a lot!
You can give up because of the stress, because of the procrastination, because in that moment you feel like you deserve a break and so on.

The only real way to not give up is to find someone who means to you more than yourself, and do it for that reason.
Bottom line: do it not for your self but for someone else who you are responsible for.

Do it of your child, do it for your mother, do it because you want to give them a better life, do it as everything depends from you. Doing like this, when you will be turning on that Netflix show, you will feel like you are wasting your time. You fill turn off Netflix and you will seat in front of your laptop and you will continue to hustle.

Do it for someone else, not for your self. When doing it for your self, you will always find a reason to give up.
So maybe the motivation is this, they are doing it for someone else.

I'm a father and when I see my son sleeping, I wake up and fo to hustle: better schools, better future, etc.

I'm not a super affiliate by the way. Still not even in my 50$ per month :-D ahahah
This can indeed be a good way to motivate!

But be careful - it's not for everyone. If you have your own dreams, try hard not to give up on them by using loved ones as excuses.

I've seen so many people that have done that - because they're afraid of success/failure or have some other reason for wanting to avoid pursuing their dreams or fulfilling their life's purpose. The result is they build up a ton of resentment towards their loved ones, and themselves.

Not saying this happens to everyone - just some people.



Amy


10-29-2021 05:00 PM #16 martinbe (Member)

I see your point. Sure it is as you say. In my case, maybe I explained it not correctly, it's that yes, you can fight for your dreams but sooner or later, the game will be so hard that you eventually giveup. Most of the people are weak and they find 1milion of excuses in order to relax and get back into the comfort zone.

That's why you have to do it for someone who means the world to you and even more that that. That way, when you start to making excuses, you do not have any...because it's not about you anymore.

But yeah...it's all personal I believe.
Maybe being able to buy 20 houses and live from the rental is a good motivation to :-D


10-29-2021 05:07 PM #17 jack_l (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by martinbe View Post
Once I red one very powerful thing which changed my whole life.

It's not about what but who.
I'll explain.

If you are motivated by your own Goals, you can fail. The types of procrastinations we have out there are a lot!
You can give up because of the stress, because of the procrastination, because in that moment you feel like you deserve a break and so on.

The only real way to not give up is to find someone who means to you more than yourself, and do it for that reason.
Bottom line: do it not for your self but for someone else who you are responsible for.

Do it of your child, do it for your mother, do it because you want to give them a better life, do it as everything depends from you. Doing like this, when you will be turning on that Netflix show, you will feel like you are wasting your time. You fill turn off Netflix and you will seat in front of your laptop and you will continue to hustle.

Do it for someone else, not for your self. When doing it for your self, you will always find a reason to give up.
So maybe the motivation is this, they are doing it for someone else.

I'm a father and when I see my son sleeping, I wake up and fo to hustle: better schools, better future, etc.

I'm not a super affiliate by the way. Still not even in my 50$ per month :-D ahahah
I agree- this is a fantastic point too- and I would even expand it beyond just the living, breathing members of your family, but to view it to include your ancestors and future descendants, even on an almost metaphysical level.

We have a tendency in the West today to view birth as totally random, or accidental... like "Oh well I could have been born in xyz, but I randomly happened to be born in the US/Canada/etc". And this is true- in part- certainly we should be grateful for our blessings and not having been born into great suffering.

But- at the same time- our births are NOT accidental- they are the result of the immense sacrifices and suffering our ancestors went through so that we could be here. There is a direct line connecting that suffering and sacrifice to our existence.

As a result one of the most powerful motivations I find is to not dishonor those sacrifices of our ancestors, and to give life our best shot as a responsibility toward them (and to one's future descendants).

But yeah excellent post my man. Pushed me right up onto my soapbox lol.


10-29-2021 06:26 PM #18 jaybot (Veteran Member)

Solid advice above. But.

I seriously don't understand these threads.

I will always find a way to spend money and be happy.

Maybe I went about life backwards and did all the fun stuff (hobbies, women, vices) before chasing money and now I know what they really cost.

Reality is, you are not financially free until you have minimum $1M USD net worth in most places. And that's rapidly turning into $10M.

Otherwise, you will always be working.

So if you no longer want to work, then you have to work for it.

But it sounds like you have a crisis of no hobbies, interests, playtime. In which case, that's easy to solve.

As for selling other people's shit, switch to gadget ecom instead of sweeps. At least they have a piece of plastic to play with instead of hopium.

Being a product owner has its benefits, but also pitfalls, as @twinaxe mentioned.

Do you think CEO of (big brand store) knows and/or gives a shit about the snake oil being sold on the shelf?

Weighted blankets are a scam (sorry @jack_l ) to me.

All supplements are scams too.

But others swear by them.

Who am I to deny the customer what they want?

Anyway, sounds like you either a) need to invest in some hobbies or b) make WAY more money or c) both.


10-29-2021 06:35 PM #19 vortex (Senior Moderator)

I see your point. Sure it is as you say. In my case, maybe I explained it not correctly, it's that yes, you can fight for your dreams but sooner or later, the game will be so hard that you eventually giveup. Most of the people are weak and they find 1milion of excuses in order to relax and get back into the comfort zone.

That's why you have to do it for someone who means the world to you and even more that that. That way, when you start to making excuses, you do not have any...because it's not about you anymore.

But yeah...it's all personal I believe.
Maybe being able to buy 20 houses and live from the rental is a good motivation to :-D
Of course! That's a great motivator. I was only presenting the exception.

It's like posting something very valuable, but putting a disclaimer with it.



Amy


10-29-2021 10:48 PM #20 wes888 (Member)

@Rhino

Have you tried POP traffic? If not maybe this can change how you feel? Just give it a try. Lol.


10-29-2021 11:56 PM #21 jack_l (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jaybot View Post
Solid advice above. But.

I seriously don't understand these threads.

I will always find a way to spend money and be happy.

Maybe I went about life backwards and did all the fun stuff (hobbies, women, vices) before chasing money and now I know what they really cost.

Reality is, you are not financially free until you have minimum $1M USD net worth in most places. And that's rapidly turning into $10M.

Otherwise, you will always be working.

So if you no longer want to work, then you have to work for it.

But it sounds like you have a crisis of no hobbies, interests, playtime. In which case, that's easy to solve.

As for selling other people's shit, switch to gadget ecom instead of sweeps. At least they have a piece of plastic to play with instead of hopium.

Being a product owner has its benefits, but also pitfalls, as @twinaxe mentioned.

Do you think CEO of (big brand store) knows and/or gives a shit about the snake oil being sold on the shelf?

Weighted blankets are a scam (sorry @jack_l ) to me.

All supplements are scams too.

But others swear by them.

Who am I to deny the customer what they want?

Anyway, sounds like you either a) need to invest in some hobbies or b) make WAY more money or c) both.
Very well said man...

But one day I hope to redpill you on the weighted-blanket issue...


10-30-2021 01:03 AM #22 Rhino (Senior Member)

No, i don't make lot of money, i guess i am just confused in life. Maybe because i am too young.
I know when i get married and try to hustle everyday in order to give my kids a good life....i'll look back at this thread and laugh at myself...lol.
But yeah, being young you do question such things...like what's the purpose of life, what do i want to do in future...etc..etc.


Quote Originally Posted by jaybot View Post
Solid advice above. But.

I seriously don't understand these threads.

I will always find a way to spend money and be happy.

Maybe I went about life backwards and did all the fun stuff (hobbies, women, vices) before chasing money and now I know what they really cost.

Reality is, you are not financially free until you have minimum $1M USD net worth in most places. And that's rapidly turning into $10M.

Otherwise, you will always be working.

So if you no longer want to work, then you have to work for it.

But it sounds like you have a crisis of no hobbies, interests, playtime. In which case, that's easy to solve.

As for selling other people's shit, switch to gadget ecom instead of sweeps. At least they have a piece of plastic to play with instead of hopium.

Being a product owner has its benefits, but also pitfalls, as @twinaxe mentioned.

Do you think CEO of (big brand store) knows and/or gives a shit about the snake oil being sold on the shelf?

Weighted blankets are a scam (sorry @jack_l ) to me.

All supplements are scams too.

But others swear by them.

Who am I to deny the customer what they want?

Anyway, sounds like you either a) need to invest in some hobbies or b) make WAY more money or c) both.


10-30-2021 11:10 AM #23 jack_l (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
No, i don't make lot of money, i guess i am just confused in life. Maybe because i am too young.
I know when i get married and try to hustle everyday in order to give my kids a good life....i'll look back at this thread and laugh at myself...lol.
But yeah, being young you do question such things...like what's the purpose of life, what do i want to do in future...etc..etc.

You should read some old books @Rhino.

You're grappling with the same things that men have grappled with for thousands of years, and there's a lot of hardcore Chad's from 1000, 2000, etc years ago who wrote about the same stuff.

Here's a bunch of books that had a big impact on me in that same regard, just in case you want to check any of them out:

Rich Dad, Poor Dad (on the slight chance you haven't read it)
The Richest Man In Babylon by George Clason
The Iliad (or even just watch the movie Troy honestly)
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius
Collapse by Jared Diamond
The Sea Wolf by Jack London
East Of Eden by John Steinbeck
The Great Books by David Denby
Where Men Win Glory by Jon Krakauer
Honor by James Bowman


10-30-2021 04:41 PM #24 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

You should read some old books @Rhino.
Evereyone should read a good book from time to time anyway, no matter if biz related or not.

It can be so relaxing to sit down with a good oldfashioned paperbook, read a good story, forget everything around and just take a little break

Many people nowadays are sitting so often and long in front of the TV watching more or less stupid things but a good book can be so much better than a movie.

Often the books are even better than the same movie.

I noticed it first with Lord of the rings, there I first read the books in 2009 or so and watched the movies later and although the movies are great, the books are so much better.


10-30-2021 08:36 PM #25 jack_l (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by twinaxe View Post
Evereyone should read a good book from time to time anyway, no matter if biz related or not.

It can be so relaxing to sit down with a good oldfashioned paperbook, read a good story, forget everything around and just take a little break

Many people nowadays are sitting so often and long in front of the TV watching more or less stupid things but a good book can be so much better than a movie.

Often the books are even better than the same movie.

I noticed it first with Lord of the rings, there I first read the books in 2009 or so and watched the movies later and although the movies are great, the books are so much better.
Oh man... could not agree more... reading LOTR is like the stabilizing axis of my universe... absolutely love it...


10-31-2021 06:26 AM #26 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jack_l View Post
You should read some old books @Rhino.

You're grappling with the same things that men have grappled with for thousands of years, and there's a lot of hardcore Chad's from 1000, 2000, etc years ago who wrote about the same stuff.

Here's a bunch of books that had a big impact on me in that same regard, just in case you want to check any of them out:

Rich Dad, Poor Dad (on the slight chance you haven't read it)
The Richest Man In Babylon by George Clason
The Iliad (or even just watch the movie Troy honestly)
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius
Collapse by Jared Diamond
The Sea Wolf by Jack London
East Of Eden by John Steinbeck
The Great Books by David Denby
Where Men Win Glory by Jon Krakauer
Honor by James Bowman
I have read excerpts of Rich Dad and Poor and what the book is all about. But then I watched one of Robert Kiyosaki's videos where he teaches young guys about financial freedom... talks about family and children being a liability. Yes, logically he's correct, but I personally got put off. There are many things in life beyond money, and my understanding is one of these "things" is unconditional love. It's the rarest of rarest of the rare yet the possibility of finding it is within family and children is more or in some cases even a perfect stranger. Kiyosaki considered family and children a liability as against an asset - maybe it was a different context and I misinterpreted it. I am not married, don't have kids, and still looking for the "ideal" even though life's good. Sibling(s) ( one passed away last year )are super selfish and yes think the Kiyosaki way and always around when you are doing well. But again that's the way the world works... Now that I have changed I want to be around "successful" people too. No hard feeling against sibling but I want to stay away from such people. Blocked her when she reached out me a few months back after years.

Coming to the context of the current thread, when I was younger it did not hurt me when I was frisked at the airport or people were rude in public places. In my country you are treated differentially when you are rich, successful, have political power than just a regular guy. By the way, if you are a white and visit India you would get the "royal" treatment as we were ruled by the Brits. And all the whites are perceived as Brits in this country. Crazy! Now I want to have all the money on earth, so people aren't generally rude, have social respectability, and when there is an emergency that is not available in this country say a medical emergency I can fly out at will without feeling any financial pressure, have people at my disposal to do my work. This is at the base level, but motivation maybe far deeper. I would hate to enslave anyone or buy slaves, having said that having loads of money can do many things for you! And yes if you make millions of $$$ and you want to visit another country you won't be begging for a visa and treated like the cattle herd and worried about change in policies. They will change the policies for you and spread the red carpet for you as you will be helping their economy and creating jobs instead of taking away jobs( yes, in India they would rather put the red tape and you are expected to pay bribes), but if you are creating wealth you are welcome everywhere and respected. Wasn't a motivation when I younger. Now it is! Perhaps this will vanish when I find love and the motivation lies there. But for the present... yes this motivates me and I am sure I am getting there VERY SOON.

I am aware of the Richest Man in Babylon and it's in my list of upcoming book reads. The rest of your list is alien to me and I am saving it. Thank you!


10-31-2021 07:00 AM #27 jack_l (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by wisdompower View Post
I have read excerpts of Rich Dad and Poor and what the book is all about. But then I watched one of Robert Kiyosaki's videos where he teaches young guys about financial freedom... talks about family and children being a liability. Yes, logically he's correct, but I personally got put off. There are many things in life beyond money, and my understanding is one of these "things" is unconditional love. It's the rarest of rarest of the rare yet the possibility of finding it is within family and children is more or in some cases even a perfect stranger. Kiyosaki considered family and children a liability as against an asset - maybe it was a different context and I misinterpreted it. I am not married, don't have kids, and still looking for the "ideal" even though life's good. Sibling(s) ( one passed away last year )are super selfish and yes think the Kiyosaki way and always around when you are doing well. But again that's the way the world works... Now that I have changed I want to be around "successful" people too. No hard feeling against sibling but I want to stay away from such people. Blocked her when she reached out me a few months back after years.

Coming to the context of the current thread, when I was younger it did not hurt me when I was frisked at the airport or people were rude in public places. In my country you are treated differentially when you are rich, successful, have political power than just a regular guy. By the way, if you are a white and visit India you would get the "royal" treatment as we were ruled by the Brits. And all the whites are perceived as Brits in this country. Crazy! Now I want to have all the money on earth, so people aren't generally rude, have social respectability, and when there is an emergency that is not available in this country say a medical emergency I can fly out at will without feeling any financial pressure, have people at my disposal to do my work. This is at the base level, but motivation maybe far deeper. I would hate to enslave anyone or buy slaves, having said that having loads of money can do many things for you! And yes if you make millions of $$$ and you want to visit another country you won't be begging for a visa and treated like the cattle herd and worried about change in policies. They will change the policies for you and spread the red carpet for you as you will be helping their economy and creating jobs instead of taking away jobs( yes, in India they would rather put the red tape and you are expected to pay bribes), but if you are creating wealth you are welcome everywhere and respected. Wasn't a motivation when I younger. Now it is! Perhaps this will vanish when I find love and the motivation lies there. But for the present... yes this motivates me and I am sure I am getting there VERY SOON.

I am aware of the Richest Man in Babylon and it's in my list of upcoming book reads. The rest of your list is alien to me and I am saving it. Thank you!
Yes, Kiyosaki is a fascinating figure, and flawed just like all of us. I'd love to write a biography of him someday.

I know what you mean about him referencing children as a 'liability', but I think that's more an attitude from 40-50 years ago when more people would have kids in a non-purposeful manner, without thought as to whether they could take care of them or not.

Today, we have the opposite problem, where nobody is having enough kids, so I think that attitude is dying out on its own.

The only real knock against Kioysaki in my book is that he allowed that dubious 'real estate course' company to license the Rich Dad name for too long... but again, who knows if any of us would have done better in his shoes. I'd say overall he's a good dude for sure. And Rich Dad, Poor Dad is in my opinion one of the best books ever written, even on a literary level. Its absolutely genius.

Another fella you might add to your list to check out is an Indian-American named Balaji Srinivasan. Tech/crypto dude. Utter genius. I think he represents a real amalgamation of the best of the US and India combined, and he has a lot of thoughts about your and his home country and its future on the world stage. Not to mention entrepreneurism/life/investing/etc. You might really enjoy reading his stuff. Just look up "Balaji S twitter" on google.

Or check out this podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eim8REOYLzA


10-31-2021 07:29 AM #28 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jack_l View Post
Yes, Kiyosaki is a fascinating figure, and flawed just like all of us. I'd love to write a biography of him someday.

I know what you mean about him referencing children as a 'liability', but I think that's more an attitude from 40-50 years ago when more people would have kids in a non-purposeful manner, without thought as to whether they could take care of them or not.

Today, we have the opposite problem, where nobody is having enough kids, so I think that attitude is dying out on its own.

The only real knock against Kioysaki in my book is that he allowed that dubious 'real estate course' company to license the Rich Dad name for too long... but again, who knows if any of us would have done better in his shoes. I'd say overall he's a good dude for sure. And Rich Dad, Poor Dad is in my opinion one of the best books ever written, even on a literary level. Its absolutely genius.

Another fella you might add to your list to check out is an Indian-American named Balaji Srinivasan. Tech/crypto dude. Utter genius. I think he represents a real amalgamation of the best of the US and India combined, and he has a lot of thoughts about your and his home country and its future on the world stage. Not to mention entrepreneurism/life/investing/etc. You might really enjoy reading his stuff. Just look up "Balaji S twitter" on google.

Or check out this podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eim8REOYLzA
Great!
I think Kiyosaki is with Anik Singal now and taken over his online courses company. Anik, they say, "can sell ice to eskimos" (like he's that good at copywriting and appealing to his audience) and surely I don't want to be that stupid eskimo! I surely got ripped off by one in his friend circle and wasted $3000 on his online course. Sheer waste! I find way more value in some $5 udemy courses...

I am adding Balaji Srinivasan to the list now and saving again. Yes, there will be hundreds of name but the core is finding what successful did and emulating or surpassing them once you have "cracked the code." As Tony Robbins... wait no... perhaps Jim Rohn... (whoever!) said, "success leaves clues." Even in a poor country like in India you will find Billionaires who never went to school or dropped out or never had any formal education, and perhaps don't know any English so they can read books and follow the success of others. One of them was Dhirubhai Ambani and his children have taken over. One is prodigal son who lost everything he inherited and another carried on the legacy of this father. Not sure about the "prodigal son" though as it could be a gimmick to save on taxes and an understanding between the two brothers... And now there is this Gautam Adani... dropped out of undergrad college and went on to do a jewelry business and now perhaps more wealthy or close to Bill Gates in terms of wealth. Perhaps does not speak or read much English either to learn from books.... Yet their lives and what they did to help their business grow should leave us some "clues."


10-31-2021 11:46 AM #29 jaybot (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jack_l View Post

Another fella you might add to your list to check out is an Indian-American named Balaji Srinivasan. Tech/crypto dude. Utter genius. I think he represents a real amalgamation of the best of the US and India combined, and he has a lot of thoughts about your and his home country and its future on the world stage. Not to mention entrepreneurism/life/investing/etc. You might really enjoy reading his stuff. Just look up "Balaji S twitter" on google.

Or check out this podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eim8REOYLzA
Don't forget Naval Ravikant


10-31-2021 12:21 PM #30 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jaybot View Post
Don't forget Naval Ravikant
Updated my list.


10-31-2021 03:19 PM #31 jack_l (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jaybot View Post
Don't forget Naval Ravikant
Yes! He's fantastic too... could not agree more!


10-31-2021 05:13 PM #32 david-cc (Member)

Can totally relate to the OP.
Affiliate marketing can be very isolating and non-rewarding besides the financial benefit of course.
For me it is all about freedom. Being able to wake up, book a plane ticket to anywhere (not so easy now due to covid) and keep making money while I am traveling or get a second home in another country makes it worth it for me, since we can literally work from anywhere.
It can get really fucking lonely and I know a lot of affiliates with no social life at all.
Like so many other have said, get a hobby (which is much harder than it sounds) and read some good book to find some inspiration.
99% of the rest of the world WISH they would have the problem to be able to post a thread like that.
We are blessed to be have this kind of lifestyle.


10-31-2021 05:35 PM #33 jack_l (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by david-cc View Post
99% of the rest of the world WISH they would have the problem to be able to post a thread like that.
We are blessed to be have this kind of lifestyle.
Beautifully said man... and I agree - I think its a little easier for folks like me and @jaybot who have families... as a younger single dude it would be a bit tough...

But yeah two hobbies I'm bullish on are Jiu Jitsu (year-round, physical, useful, spiritually healthy, lots of other like-minded dudes), and Toastmasters (mostly old folks admittedly, but is like socializing on steroids since you have to get up and talk in front of people, also insanely useful skill).


10-31-2021 05:42 PM #34 david-cc (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jack_l View Post
Beautifully said man... and I agree - I think its a little easier for folks like me and @jaybot who have families... as a younger single dude it would be a bit tough...

But yeah two hobbies I'm bullish on are Jiu Jitsu (year-round, physical, useful, spiritually healthy, lots of other like-minded dudes), and Toastmasters (mostly old folks admittedly, but is like socializing on steroids since you have to get up and talk in front of people, also insanely useful skill).
I just had to google Toastmasters. Don't even know that exists in the EU or I didn't look hard enough, but sounds like a cool concept.
Having a family and supportive wife clearly helps the 'isolation', but it looks like the whole world is becoming more isolated with Covid and everything else going on.
The older we get the harder it gets to make real friends. Then you have the constant envy from 'normal' people your age who work a 9-5 and don't really understand what we are doing in the first place.
So automatically you're an outcast unless you kept your high school , college friends and so on.
That being said, keep your friends close and fuck your enemies. I know the old saying but the only currency in this world that truly matters is time, the rest is bullshit. Make the most of your time with things you enjoy and people you enjoy!


10-31-2021 05:49 PM #35 Rhino (Senior Member)

Never heard of this "Toastmasters" thing before. I just googled it and it looks very interesting. Will try it.
I used to have this movies group in my city. Where we 7-8 friends used to meet and talk about movies and bitch about government. I used to love it. But covid ended that.
Currently, i try going for squash frequently.
And do gym every alternate days.
And my father has a government job due to which my family gets to travel anywhere within the country for free. And i did travel a lot this year. But for some reasons i didn't enjoy it.


Quote Originally Posted by jack_l View Post
Beautifully said man... and I agree - I think its a little easier for folks like me and @jaybot who have families... as a younger single dude it would be a bit tough...

But yeah two hobbies I'm bullish on are Jiu Jitsu (year-round, physical, useful, spiritually healthy, lots of other like-minded dudes), and Toastmasters (mostly old folks admittedly, but is like socializing on steroids since you have to get up and talk in front of people, also insanely useful skill).


11-01-2021 08:06 AM #36 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

I feel lucky to have people around me where I am now and from diverse backgrounds and nationalities. I am planning to move to my own house as soon as I can after acquiring the property but have suddenly developed cold feet living all alone in the house. Again, feel super uncomfortable having a woman tied to me all life and have kids screaming around me and disturbing sleep. It's like wanting to have the cake and eat it too. Really don't know haha


11-01-2021 11:00 AM #37 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

99% of the rest of the world WISH they would have the problem to be able to post a thread like that.
We are blessed to be have this kind of lifestyle.
Amen, well said.


11-01-2021 06:35 PM #38 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by jaybot View Post
I seriously don't understand these threads.

I will always find a way to spend money and be happy.
I don't think it's about not knowing how to spend the money etc... at least it wasn't to me, when I've found myself in a similar state of mind, several years ago. It's more about how to make yourself move forward and keep on working, basically how to stay motivated once you reach certain income level.

I think I can relate because I was in a similar situation, I was making more money than I could spend and obviously, I thought it would last forever It felt like, why should I even go to work when the money is flowing in so nicely... and why would I work harder when I'm already not able to spend the money I was making? Obviously, that particular setup I had at that time tanked after a while, so it solved the "problem" automatically and I had to start moving again

That's why I'm more cautious these days, I try not to become too lazy when everything works fine and always watch my income levels to make sure I step in in advance, once the numbers start to go down. You could say I have learned my lesson


03-09-2022 07:52 AM #39 vortexalpha (Member)

I guess when you start working in some field and start making some real money, that becomes your primary motivation for going forward. No matter if you earned enough and you don't have a need anymore for generating such a high profit (although this isn't the case in most situations) you'll still want to break the limits more and achieve even better results. It is some general human psychology and it's written in our nature that we aim for getting more and having more. This doesn't need to be our biggest motivation, but it is definitely a fuel that helps us survive some hard days and go through all obstacles that we encounter in our way.


03-09-2022 11:36 AM #40 ScottyG (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jaybot View Post
Solid advice above. But.

I seriously don't understand these threads.

I will always find a way to spend money and be happy.

Maybe I went about life backwards and did all the fun stuff (hobbies, women, vices) before chasing money and now I know what they really cost.

Reality is, you are not financially free until you have minimum $1M USD net worth in most places. And that's rapidly turning into $10M.

Otherwise, you will always be working.

So if you no longer want to work, then you have to work for it.

But it sounds like you have a crisis of no hobbies, interests, playtime. In which case, that's easy to solve.

As for selling other people's shit, switch to gadget ecom instead of sweeps. At least they have a piece of plastic to play with instead of hopium.

Being a product owner has its benefits, but also pitfalls, as @twinaxe mentioned.

Do you think CEO of (big brand store) knows and/or gives a shit about the snake oil being sold on the shelf?

Weighted blankets are a scam (sorry @jack_l ) to me.

All supplements are scams too.

But others swear by them.

Who am I to deny the customer what they want?

Anyway, sounds like you either a) need to invest in some hobbies or b) make WAY more money or c) both.
Clearly not autistic enough if you think weighted blankets are a scam, smh


03-09-2022 02:47 PM #41 jaybot (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ScottyG View Post
Clearly not autistic enough if you think weighted blankets are a scam, smh
Ok, I'll upgrade it to 'luxury item' just for you, baby.

When I was a kid, I had a big dog who loved laying down on my legs when I got into bed, felt really nice having all that pressure on them to help fall asleep. Probably the same concept: No one gives you enough love and hugs.

You just need more love.


03-09-2022 06:06 PM #42 cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jack_l View Post
You should read some old books @Rhino.

You're grappling with the same things that men have grappled with for thousands of years, and there's a lot of hardcore Chad's from 1000, 2000, etc years ago who wrote about the same stuff.

Here's a bunch of books that had a big impact on me in that same regard, just in case you want to check any of them out:

Rich Dad, Poor Dad (on the slight chance you haven't read it)
The Richest Man In Babylon by George Clason
The Iliad (or even just watch the movie Troy honestly)
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius
Collapse by Jared Diamond
The Sea Wolf by Jack London
East Of Eden by John Steinbeck
The Great Books by David Denby
Where Men Win Glory by Jon Krakauer
Honor by James Bowman
Some good books there


03-10-2022 11:01 AM #43 jack_l (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jaybot View Post
Ok, I'll upgrade it to 'luxury item' just for you, baby.

When I was a kid, I had a big dog who loved laying down on my legs when I got into bed, felt really nice having all that pressure on them to help fall asleep. Probably the same concept: No one gives you enough love and hugs.

You just need more love.
Dudes... in the time since I originally mentioned weighted blankets I have become even more addicted...

I literally sleep with a 10 lb and 15 lb COMBINED on top of me... is like pure heaven... seriously don't know how I ever survived without them...


03-10-2022 11:04 AM #44 jack_l (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by cmdeal View Post
Some good books there
Two more amazing ones...

Way Of The Warrior Kid by Jocko Willink
The Way Of Men by Jack Donovan


03-10-2022 11:22 AM #45 ScottyG (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jack_l View Post
Dudes... in the time since I originally mentioned weighted blankets I have become even more addicted...

I literally sleep with a 10 lb and 15 lb COMBINED on top of me... is like pure heaven... seriously don't know how I ever survived without them...
I spent $500 on a 35lb one 3 years ago and haven't ever looked back. Love it.

-$3k on the tracker? Doesn't even remotely bother me when I got 35lbs crushing my ability to produce anxiety. Heaven man.


03-10-2022 12:21 PM #46 vortex (Senior Moderator)
What Motivates you to Work Everyday?

I have a friend that had the misfortune of having to fight in a war. Ever since then, he could only go into deep sleep when he put himself under many layers of heavy blanket. And that was before weighted blankets were even a "thing".

https://laylasleep.com/weighted-blanket-for-ptsd/



Amy


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03-10-2022 12:57 PM #47 cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Haha, this is getting off topic, but I know the guys who own the #1 weighted blanket brand Quility

https://www.insider.com/guides/home/...blanket-review

and they had actually asked me fofr advice on how to better promote their products with affiliates. It looks like there is a lot of personal interest and experience in the product within STM.

Would one of the mods would be interested in doing a case study if I can get an attractive trial affiliate deal with them?


03-10-2022 01:43 PM #48 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Would one of the mods would be interested in doing a case study if I can get an attractive trial affiliate deal with them?
You mean case study in sense of case study or case study in sense of blanked test?

The latter one doesn´t sound that unappealing

But jokes aside, are you serious with the case study?

I mean, sometimes the most random ideas lead to absolutely unexpected results.

From the website:

"I weighed the blanket with the cover on to see if it was indeed 20 pounds, and it turned out to be 22.8 pounds."

Holy moly, that´s 10 Kg.

I didn´t expect that weighted blankets are that weighted.


03-10-2022 01:55 PM #49 cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by twinaxe View Post
You mean case study in sense of case study or case study in sense of blanked test?

The latter one doesn´t sound that unappealing

But jokes aside, are you serious with the case study?

I mean, sometimes the most random ideas lead to absolutely unexpected results.

From the website:

"I weighed the blanket with the cover on to see if it was indeed 20 pounds, and it turned out to be 22.8 pounds."

Holy moly, that´s 10 Kg.

I didn´t expect that weighted blankets are that weighted.
Haha, I meant case study of running an ecommerce affiliate offer. They are quite protective of their brand, so I will need to get their go ahead on what could be done as a test.


03-10-2022 08:06 PM #50 jack_l (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ScottyG View Post
I spent $500 on a 35lb one 3 years ago and haven't ever looked back. Love it.

-$3k on the tracker? Doesn't even remotely bother me when I got 35lbs crushing my ability to produce anxiety. Heaven man.
Lol it really is man...


03-10-2022 09:32 PM #51 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by cmdeal View Post
Haha, I meant case study of running an ecommerce affiliate offer. They are quite protective of their brand, so I will need to get their go ahead on what could be done as a test.
We can discuss this further when the offer is ready. Coincidently I did a few minutes of research on weighted blankets some time ago in this thread:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post408396

I do believe in the therapeutic effects of such products. Anything that can benefit end users and enhance their quality of life would be worth promoting in my book.



Amy


05-01-2022 11:25 AM #52 anthonyh (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
Affiliate marketing is all about making fake promises and aggressive selling. Basically, i am screwing others to make money for myself.
Man, I hope this isn't truly the case with affiliate marketing as I have developed a bit of love for it. Although it is stressful at times.

Is this the only real way to find success with affiliate marketing?


Please tell me now before I get too deep within this industry. (I'm already nearly two years in)


I absolutely love everything about affiliate marketing, but the lies and deception was and is always the one thing that made me question whether I should be in this industry or not.


Personally, I'm very careful with how aggressive I run offers as I am a Christian and it is against my beliefs to deceive or screw over my brother or sister. As I wouldn't want them to do that to me.


Instead of, " You have won an iPhone " I put, "You have a chance to win an iPhone."


Although the chances of them winning may be very slim, I am 100% okay with running this way because they really do have a chance to win.


I realize this may put me at a massive disadvantage against others who do run very aggressive, but if I can still manage to be successful then I'm okay with it.


I really would love to find success (freedom and control over my life) by doing affiliate marketing, but if I have to mislead and deceive others to get it, then I don't want it.


Please let me know if this is the road that I will have to head down in order to succeed in affiliate marketing.


If so, then I will drop everything and leave it all alone today.


Thanks.


05-01-2022 12:18 PM #53 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by anthonyh View Post
If so, then I will drop everything and leave it all alone today.
Yes, there IS a lot of deception in affiliate marketing. But it definitely does NOT have to be that way.

Please check out some of the following discussions for inspiration:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post408493

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...thics-or-Money

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ting-ethically

Also: If done right, advertising angles that make the audience feel good (e.g. empowered, hopeful, confident, inspired...), can perform better than those that make the audience feel bad (e.g. insecure, afraid, stressed out...)

Moreover: Sweeps isn't the only vertical that can work on push traffic. On top of that, there are other types of traffic you can run. If you're not happy running sweeps, pick a more whitehat vertical, find out what types of traffic convert well for that vertical, and start testing.

There are a million and one ways to do affiliate marketing. Everyone is free to choose how they want to do it. Someone else's experience doesn't have to become yours - you'll always have freedom of choice (which not even God Himself can take away - He can only do His best to guide).



Amy


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