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Does making Money makes you Happy? (23)

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I started affiliate marketing in 2017. In the early days when i was broke, i was super motivated.
Then after 2-3 years of constant hardworking, i have been able to scale it to $70,000/month on push traffic.

But here's the problem.

I am 23 year old. I just recently finished my college. During my college days i didn't make any friends nor did i study. I spent my whole time on affiliate marketing. At that time my mindset was, after i make lot of money, i can catch up with the fun that i missed in my college years.

But 6 years later, making money hasn't made me any happier nor has it changed my life.
I live in India. My monthly expenditure is less than $800. The rest of the $70,000+ just goes in the bank. I get paid weekly by my affiliate network.

I don't have the urge to buy any clothes, or any material things, Nor have i bought anything for myself in last 2 years. I don't like to get out of my house or spend my money on unneccessary things. It just stays in my bank.
I live alone in my 3 bedroom apartment. My parents live in separate house.

Everyday i ask myself, why am i doing all this?
What's the point of making money?
From 0 to $100,000 i was super motivated, i used to take it as a challenge.
But, i got my success easily and at super early stage so, currently i don't feel motivated to work.

I have been procrastinating to start my first native ads campaign for last 1 year. And till this date i am still procrastinating.

Every day is same and boring.

Has anyone had this feeling? Knows any solution to it?

Shud i challenge myself with something new? Maybe that might rejuvenate me.

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If you have lots of money there's nothing wrong with losing the motivation to make more...

If you've lost ALL motivation.. that's an issue... if that is the case, I'd theorize that perhaps the remedy is the old Memento Morii thing... go spend some time around people confronting their death... filled with regret of everything they didn't do... and it will be a rocket booster for motivation... the Greeks were spot on in that regard

Or, use your money to advance your people's best interests... consider yourself a warrior fighting for all that your ancestors sacrificed so you could be here...

Or, go get married and have some kids, that's ultimately our main biological motivation as mortal life forms after all

Either way great work on the push success! 70k a month is fantastic!

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Get hold of a cute girlfriend Every possibility she will rip you off and you get broke again, so you are motivated to work again. Jokes apart - everyone has been through this, but soon one realizes from experience - life with money >>>> being broke. Work on it and sooner or later you will find a way to happiness. You are already careful with money because most youngsters who start making good money start blowing it away and quickly become broke. You are fine!

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I am not best to express my mind out then also I want to say some words.
Firstly, consider yourself a lucky man to achieve that much in your early youth. You may have your own struggles to get there but also its far better than struggling day to day for small success.

And second, I can feel your demotivation, There is a target point until which we enjoy earning money, after reaching that point our motivation just fades away, We have been trying hard thinking after earning money I will do this or that and that will be my dream life but nothing excites us any more. Once we reach the sufficiency, we feel like life during struggle period was more enjoyable. The first car, your first visit to fancy restaurant, happiness when you can afford gifts to your family, your first investment, nothing can beat that happiness. After some time it becomes normal and there is nothing wrong with it.

So I just want to say that try to invest in experience, go to adventure, try to find a special person {dont hurry in that} because loneliness can do that. Its best to make friends first with whom you enjoy and spend a little more money on outing. And, Don't just put your all money on bank, invest them too. Trust me, being rich is far better than being poor

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You crave the challenge mate.

Go get a copy of a world record book and try to break one.

Learn how to kite surf.

Take over a small island nation and play real world Civ 5.

Options are yours mate.

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Thanks for your advice. Trust me Making money is one headache and then managing and investing money is another headache. Inflation in my country is 6% this year and i know if i keep my money in bank, it'll go waste. The burden to invest the money is always there and i have been exploring few things but i am still a novice. Plus i have to pay between 30-48% Income tax, so my goal is to get that tax money back by investing. But this whole thing is very stressful, more stressful than affiliate marketing.

From next month onwards, i am thinking of travelling, visiting new cities and working from hotel. One thing money does is it that it buys you experience.

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I would love to get that type of headache

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Since you asked about happiness. If Im correct humans experience happiness in two different way.

One would be based on reward system like when you are hungry and you get to eat or you want something and get it.

The other would be when you have a goal and you can see yourself moving toward that goal. You get a sense of meaning. You decided that you are here and you would be better there(your goal) by your on definition what better means to you.

Also ask yourself what do I want?
How I want my life to be?
What kind of person I want to be?
How do I want my relationships, friends, family to be?
My health?
My work?
My freetime?
Hobbies?
Nutrition?

Try to develop a vision.

People built to confront chaos so we actually need challenges so we can over come them and become more.
You supposed to live your life one foot in order and one foot in chaos. If you look at the yin & yang simbol you supposed to be in the middle line between chaos and order according to Jordan Peterson.



Maybe its time to hire someone to take care of inflation and the tax part you are dealing with?

Traveling idea sounds good

Good luck m8

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No one has mentioned hookers or cocaine in this thread.

I’m disappointed

I have nothing else to add other than, you know all that shit you missed out on in university? Go out and do it now.

Enjoy your life! At $70k a month, that’s $840k a year. You could blow it all on partying every day and still have left over.

Buy bitcoin. Or a grand piano. Or a piano made out of bitcoins.

There’s tons of shit you can spend money on which will definitely make you feel happier. Anyone who says otherwise is lying, broke, or both.

Otherwise, learn to meditate. Exercise. Read books. Blah blah blah. That can make you happy too. With or without money.

But you’re 23.

You should be blowing your hard earned money on stupid shit and having as much fun as possible.

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

Don’t forget to experience what life has to offer. Out there you will get inspiration as to what you want to do next.

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I know exactly where you are.

I just read something today that may help you.

I'm not religious and I never preach. If the following does not resonate with you please ignore - I just somehow have a feeling that some of it may resonate with you (and not just because you're from India).

Excerpt from "Self-Realization Fellowship Lessons - Lesson 1: The Way to Self-realization", By Paramahansa Yogananda

(All the bolding of the text was by me - to highlight the relevant parts.)

Also - this diagram could shed some light on what's missing from your life:




Please feel free to start a discussion if you're inspired to. And best of luck!



Amy

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The "solution" is probably much more simple than you can think of.

Buy a backpack and go hiking in untouched nature for 6 months.

After that you are a new human being. Mother nature heals everybody. It is the place where we all belong.

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I would go with that book.

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Hey @Rhino, I had some questions for you and have sent you a message privately, as those are not relevant to this thread. I look forward to your answers.

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To me, making money was MOSTLY about allowing me to do the things that I enjoy doing. So having enough money does make me happy in a way, but it's not about the money itself, it's about the things it let's you do and the freedom it gives you.

For example, I love to go fishing. But I wouldn't be able to do it if I didn't have enough money to provide for my family, as I would have to take another job in order to make the ends meet. And of course, I wouldn't have money to buy the bait either. Not even mentioning all the other equipment and an off road car that allows me to get to any distant location that I want to go fishing at.

Or another one, I love cooking and doing BBQ, so I often invite people to visit us at our place. And because of the money I make online I can buy expensive cuts of meat, have all kinds of bbq equipment and experiment a lot. And the people always love it, which gives me a good feeling.

These are pretty small things, but there are bigger ones that I was able to get because of the money I make... house, pool, cars... etc. It's great to see my kids having fun in the pool whenever they want and again, it simply wouldn't be possible without the money.

So basically, just think about what would make you happy and focus on that. And because you make a lot of money, you can do all of of that on scale

Maybe you need someone in your life... find a GF or friends and spend time with them. We all need someone in our lives.
Maybe you would enjoy helping others... a small sum can make huge impact on someone life. Go help the homeless or sick or poor... it might help you realize how blessed you are to have the funds you do.
Do something for our nature... there are countless organizations that try to make an impact, join some.

This might be a good idea too. Sometimes we just need to clear our minds to get back on track.

Just buy stock of some solid companies, do not overthink this. It's always going up. Here is a NASDAQ chart... wait long enough and you cant lose


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When can we have the STM Fish Fry + BBQ?

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Actually, I don't really eat fish meat a lot, but we could do some beef or pork An STM only BBQ gettogether sounds like a good idea

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I know exactly where you are... I was there 20 years ago. Making way too much money and it was entirely too easy. You think you're smart (and maybe you are) but a lot of the time it's right time, right offer and right circumstances. Save your money my friend as one day you will have a family, many more responsibilties and a much larger monthly nut. You will be kicking yourself thinking "why didn't i work harder?!" Trust me on this, i still say this now haha!

Anyways good luck to you and i wish you further success and hopefully more fulfillment in your life.

Sincerely the guy 20 years older than you that has been doing this longer than you ;-)

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It's not a new thread, but I was in the same situation before.

Your issue isn't about making too much money, your issue is not knowing how to enjoy life and spend money.

You don't need any book or spiritual course, what you need is girls and party.

Use your marketing skill to meet new girls on Tinder, take them to nightclubs/bars everyday.

You probably need someone who knows the best clubs/bars in your local area if you've never been to nightclubs.

Or you can add me on telegram or visit bangkok, I'll share my experience and show you what's a good night life looks like

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Helpful advice indeed! And I gave similar advice too on this thread when it started. And surely he will get back to his "broke status" in a matter of weeks, days, or hours [ he just needs to transfer all this savings to a cute blonde who gave him the best sex of his life ] and start working hard again!

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For any dudes reading this...

Existential despair is arguably a logical reaction to modernity (the modern world), as all our instinctual drives as men are unfulfilled, due to the success our recent ancestors have had in eradicating all the obstacles are ancient ancestors evolved to face.

What to do in response? That's the tough part...

I would definitely check out the following books though, as they address this issue head on:

The Way Of Men by Jack Donovan
Honor by James Bowman
Where Men Win Glory by Jon Krakaur (this is actually a biography of Pat Tillman, but the subtext of the book is the question of men and masculinity in modernity, and it references everything from Homer to Ibn Khaldun to Lee Harris to Frances Fukuyama in attempting to answer it)

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Yes, that's true, i don't know how to enjoy my life, I am still searching on what makes me happy & i am learning new things about myself every single day.
But it has nothing to do with girls or party.
I have been to concerts and clubs, but i have never enjoyed that atmosphere.
One thing i learned about my personality is that, i don't like being in crowded, noisy places. I prefer peaceful, quite places.
I am an introvert and that's is something that attracted me towards affiliate marketing.

Also, earlier, i used to think that maybe chasing girls will make me happy.
And i did pursue that, but, i realized that if i am dating someone, i am not able to concentrate on my work. Because being in relationship drains me emotionally & mentally.

And i am quite young, i want to spend the next 1-2 years of my life concentrating on my media buying career.
After i am 25 years old, i'll devout my next 5 years of my life in dating, finding life partner.
But right now, my first priority is to make money(sustainably), because if i don't have money, all the options, possibilities die.


And,

i had written this post in July.
In July i am making a around 70k/month



I finished my college in May 2021. The reason, i had written this post is because in college i used to see my college friends have fun all the time and i used to sit in my room and used to work day and night like a nerd. Because i thought, if i have lot of money, i'll automatically become happy.

When i was 18 years old, i used to think if i cud make $500/month i wud be happy. But then when i made that $500/month, i thought ah, if i can make $1000/month that wud make me happy.

Soon, $1000/month changed to $10,000/month
And $10,000/month changed to $50,000 and more.

And when i hit $70k mark, i had an epiphany, sudden realization that, making money hasn't made me happy, infact i felt quite empty from inside. I was happier(in my teenage years) when i was broke and had good friends.

So, i am glad i went thru this experience because, many people spend their entire life chasing money and then (in their 60s) they realize that they spend their entire life chasing emptiness. And i am glad i was able to experience this whole thing at just 23 years of age.

Nowadays, i don't make as much money as i used to make earlier, but i do feel happier than before. I take out time from my schedule to go to gym, hang out with friends, gossiping on phone..etc.

In my peak years, 2020-21, i had abandoned my friends, rarely used to talk to my family, never used to get out of my house. But now, most of it has changed.

Also, now, i am not that obsessed about money, the way i used to be earlier.

And by the way, all my colleagues(who were having fun) are doing 9 to 5 jobs right now. I am the only one in my entire college who pursued entrepreneurship. Nowdays, whenever i talk to my colleagues, all of them complain about their boring 9 to 5 routine.

And yeah, i did realize that money doesn't make ME happy, i don't know what makes me happy, but i am still searching for it.

Also, i learned that "happiness is a journey, not a destination". so, all my fellow STMers who think reaching that 10k or 100k milestone will make them happy, well, that's never gonna happen. It will give you a temporary pleasure(for few days) but it'll eventually fizzle out.

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@Rhino My understanding is that you don't to sacrifice "anything" to make big money. To reach a certain level, yes... it needs "hard work" and focus. After that it's all about effective delegation, right decisions, and time management. You don't need to wait for another 1-2 years either for anything. Having said that you don't need to have a girl to make you happy. There are many single people who are happy and lead satisfying lives.

By they way, you will more "friends" when you do well. So, once you reach the level of a "rockstar" you will have too many chasing you and you will need to have adequate social skills to handle them or "shoo" them away. It's indeed a blessed life for a man who reaches a position to "shoo" away ladies ( the opposite of the general trend). And you cannot choose to be an introvert even if you wish to or it will get pretty difficult. I wish you the very best man!

P.S. There's a reason why the wise men in the past have always clubbed wealth and women together [ and of course, wine...again starting with the letter 'W' ]

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You are making really great amount and everyone will want to make this amount. everyone work hard to make money.
you can buy anything with money but you have to make some social friends too for spending your free time and for leisure

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