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09-05-2020 06:07 PM #1 ldb94 (Member)
Need Help With Facebook Ads

Hi Y'all! I'm in a bit of a pickle here. So last week, I started testing some products via Shopify, using FB ads. The thing is, i got my personal account banned, a friend's account banned, and a third account banned (because i used the payment method from the 2nd account).

My problem is not just that i'm out of FB accounts in just a week, but how does one keep this going? I mean, even if i get my friends to give me their accounts, they'll probably all be banned in two weeks.

How do you guys get dem FB accounts?

Also, can anyone give me a tip on how to create good quality presentation video clips (in which the product itself is presented) for my FB ad?

Thanks a lot!


09-05-2020 06:17 PM #2 shishev (Moderator)

What kind of products are you pushing that are getting your accounts banned frequently?


09-05-2020 07:33 PM #3 ldb94 (Member)

Well, nothing sexual, explosive, harmfull, etc. i think, and it’s the most logical conclusion, that my Credit Card is flagged. First time they banned me because my CC credentials didn’t match my business account details. Then, because the CC got flagged, the next two accounts followed the same fate.

and now, gotta get a new CC and a couple new FB accounts. Btw, from what i’ve heard, in order to run ads, your account needs to be worn in? Any idea where i could get FB accounts, or how to batch make FB accounts just for advertising purposes?

thanks guys


09-06-2020 01:03 AM #4 frenchies (Member)

Your account got banned from just dropshipping with Shopify? That's very odd. You should go through FB TOS to see if you violated anything


09-06-2020 03:01 AM #5 jeremie (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by ldb94 View Post
Any idea where i could get FB accounts
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-More-Accounts


09-06-2020 10:22 AM #6 stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by frenchies View Post
Your account got banned from just dropshipping with Shopify? That's very odd. You should go through FB TOS to see if you violated anything
No that's quite normal, drophshippers add little value and have often shitty reviews.
Besides that the way of advertising can be very agressive, even though it's dropshipping.

At the end you must have good engagement and build proper score on the accounts, next to not violating all the terms ofcourse!


09-07-2020 01:15 PM #7 mrkool (Member)

why dont you use business accounts? share some details of what your ad copy, landing page, creatives are like and we could give some ideas if this is something fb would ban


09-07-2020 06:00 PM #8 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

I hope you did not use the same computer while using your friend's account! Merely changing IP does not help. Even if change your country FB remembers your computer and tracks.
And maybe you could even try a friend who's not in your Facebook friend's list. Facebook for sure knew he's your friend.


09-07-2020 06:06 PM #9 ldb94 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by wisdompower View Post
I hope you did not use the same computer while using your friend's account! Merely changing IP does not help. Even if change your country FB remembers your computer and tracks.
And maybe you could even try a friend who's not in your Facebook friend's list. Facebook for sure knew he's your friend.
so basically i need a fleet of computers, a server building, a ton of IP addresses, and a ton of strangers which are not in my fb friend list, befriend them, then ask them if i can use their FB accounts. Doesn’t seem like it’s worth ot.


09-08-2020 02:43 PM #10 Fiddyshades (Member)

Not exactly. This is 2020

You can get a virtual private system that can be manually rotated. You can get 1 4g connection that can IP rotate as well on demand.

In regards to the last few points, if you're looking to try and farm the accounts yourself... if you don't know what you're doing, it's going to be a long and arduous process. Farming is all about nuance and I don't recommend it for trying to get a few accounts.

My recommendation would be to buy the accounts.


09-08-2020 04:55 PM #11 ldb94 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bpatrick View Post
Not exactly. This is 2020

You can get a virtual private system that can be manually rotated. You can get 1 4g connection that can IP rotate as well on demand.
Can you please elaborate? Do you mean using Virtual Machines via cloud services, i.e Azure or Google cloud?
I have found that services such as Google (including YouTube) detect Virtual Machine activity and disregard it as a metric. For example, if you try to create gmail accounts through VM (or outside VM)?and then try to use that account as traffic (through VM), Neither YouTube nor Google would consider the account valid.

i know someone who had a batch of valid gmails and YouTube accounts with said gmails, used 5 VM,s to watch his own channel, comment, subscribe, like, and YouTube did not register the action as valid through VM,s but did outside VM. They know people do fishy stuff through VM,s.


09-08-2020 09:15 PM #12 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by bpatrick View Post
In regards to the last few points, if you're looking to try and farm the accounts yourself... if you don't know what you're doing, it's going to be a long and arduous process. Farming is all about nuance and I don't recommend it for trying to get a few accounts.

My recommendation would be to buy the accounts.
^^^This.

I did blackhat for a while a couple of years back and it was already very complicated and difficult to turn a profit while churning and burning through accounts. And it has become way more complicated since then (accordingly to what people have told me).

For a whitehat (?) model like ecommerce dropshipping, you shouldn't need to churn-and-burn through accounts, so it's probably not worth it to learn farming. I would strongly recommend that you get someone who knows what they're doing to look at your whole funnel thoroughly, to figure out if FB is banning you because they don't like the product or your ads or your site. Because if this is the case, then no matter how many accounts you get, you may still get them all banned within a week. Just because the business model is whitehat, doesn't mean you're running 100% whitehat (thus the question mark above).

You're also welcomed to post your ads and site here on the forum for us to check out. Maybe someone will notice something that may have ticked off FB. Since it's not a proven product (at least you haven't let on that it is), there's no need to worry about generating competition.

Of course it may also be because FB has "blacklisted" you due to a "bad track-record" with the CC incident etc. and subsequently banning all the accounts associated with you. In that case getting additional accounts can help to get a fresh start - again, assuming there's nothing wrong with your funnel.

As a mod I'm not at liberty to discuss this stuff in great detail, and my knowledge of blackhat stuff is outdated anyway. But to point you in the right direction if you want to buy accounts:

-Join some FB masterminds - here and/or groups on chat platforms - and ask for recommendations.

-Ask affiliate network AMs for recommendations - especially networks that specialize in crypto/nutra.

Best of luck!

(BTW: What is the reason they're giving you for the bans? Same/different reason across all the accounts?)



Amy


09-08-2020 09:23 PM #13 Fiddyshades (Member)

I won't go into too much detail here, sorry. You definitely do not need to go out buying physical computers, running from town to town in order to find a new IP, or need to borrow endless FB accounts. Like Vortex said, if you're doing WH dropshipping, you don't need a legion of accounts. I recommend purchasing them, you'll save money in the end from all the time you'd waste trying to farm (not to mention all the necessary software and tools).

-Source: I farm over 1000 accts/month and have been doing so for the past few years (P.S. I only sell in batches of 10, so I'm probably not your guy)

(edit: meant to "reply with quote") @ldb94


09-08-2020 09:33 PM #14 vortex (Senior Moderator)

@Idb94 Sorry forgot to ask: Have you tried to appeal any of those bans? FB's been auto-banning a lot - it's almost like a "kill first, wait for manual review and approval later" approach.

I would definitely try this first, if just to rule out auto-banning, before going through the more time-consuming and expensive route of getting new accounts.

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ed-FB-Accounts



Amy


09-09-2020 03:49 PM #15 iwanttofly (Veteran Member)

Someone mentioned it before, I'll mention it again.

Why don't you share your ad copy, targeting, funnel, etc.? You may get some good advice on what is triggering the bans. Also, you already know it quickly gets banned, so there is no downside if someone tries to steal it. Well, not for you, I pity anyone stealing an insta-ban funnel.


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