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GEN2: How to Appeal Banned FB Accounts (23)


02-17-2020 11:56 PM #1 vortex (Senior Moderator)
GEN2: How to Appeal Banned FB Accounts

When an ad account gets banned in spite of all the precautions in the previous post, you can try to appeal.

That would be step 2 in our 4-step plan for FB accounts.


Here's the 4-Step Plan for FB Accounts:

1)Do our best to avoid bans.

2)If we get banned, learn to appeal.

3)If we can't get that account back, run on a new account.

4)If we run out of accounts, figure out how to get new ones.


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How FB Bans Accounts

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As far as I'm aware, FB bans accounts in two ways: Automatically with their algorithm, and manually by human reviewers.


Automatic Account Bans

Facebook will often deactivate accounts en masse - their algorithm is designed to ban first, ask questions never.

I feel that they are using the "guilty until proven innocent" approach - basically just wipe out anyone and everyone that looks suspicious, on a regular basis, and only do a manual review when an advertiser bothers to appeal - at which time they will decide whether or not to reactivate the account.

There are numerous reasons as to why an automatic ban would be triggered - the facebook policies and reasons for disapproval linked to in the previous post may just be some of them.

However, the automatic banning algorithm is not perfect. Some of the ad accounts banned could be perfectly legitimate. And this is where human reviewers come in - to evaluate and make a decision.


Manual Account Bans

Sometimes, due to one reason or another, a human reviewer would decide to deactivate an account.

Many things can trigger a manual review. Examples:

-When new ads are submitted for review, and the reviewer doesn't like the ads (i.e. for violating ad policies). They may also look at your account history to get a better picture of what and how you've been running, and decide to ban the account.

-When one or more payments don't go through successfully.

-When the algorithm flags the FB page / ad(s) / landing page(s) as low quality or non-compliant.

-When the algorithm gets flagged in other ways to alert a reviewer to investigate the account.

-When you request for a manual review, e.g. in the case of an appeal.


No matter whether it's the algo or a human that has banned your account, you should appeal the decision. The only exception I can think of is if you know you're running non-compliant, in which case appealing may result in a manual review of your other ad accounts (assuming that it hasn't already happened when they banned that first account) to lead to MORE accounts being banned. Other than that, you have nothing to lose by appealing. The worst that could happen is they say no.



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What a Ban Looks Like

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(Warning: The following images can cause your heart to sink to the floor, and even trigger PTSD and nightmares.)

An account ban can happen at any time.

One fine day, you may be logging into your ad account as usual, and BAM! You see this message looming over your stats like a death sentence:



Or, you could be checking email, and suddenly this love note from the "Facebook Ads Team" catches your attention:



"Ad Account Disabled for Policy Violation" must be one of the most common reasons they give for banning accounts. However, there are a million and one ways their policies can be violated, and they don't tell you exactly which one(s) it is they're banning you for.

No worries though. This vagueness will actually give us something to write about in our appeal message - as we'll cover in the next section below.

Another common ban message is this one:



I've made suggestions on how to avoid this type of ban in the previous lesson, but will quote it here for your reference:

FB does not like dormant ad accounts that are sitting around not doing anything. To avoid getting accounts deactivated due to inactivity, either avoid creating more accounts than you need, or keep a low spend running - to a PPE campaign to your page for example which can give more authority to your page.

(The latter may be a better option if you run volume and want to create backup accounts while it's still possible.)

If you're wanting to save some money, you don't necessarily need to leave that campaign running ALL the time. FB's criterion for inactivity is no ad spend in 60 days. So just run that PPE campaign once in a while so the period of inactivity doesn't exceed 60 days.

I even found this article which suggests you don't need to spend any money at all, and still keep those backup accounts alive:

https://davidlye.net/latest-facebook...ok-ad-account/

I haven't tried this personally though, so can't comment on effectiveness.


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How to Appeal

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To submit an appeal, simply click on the "Request a Review of this ad account" link, either from the message in your ad account, or in the notification email.

Or, click on this link.

You'll be directed to this page:



Select "Yes" to "Is this your account?"

Select your disabled ad account from the dropdown.

Lastly - what to put in the "Please provide information that will help us investigate" field?

I'm not going to provide a script here and risk having multiple people cutting and pasting the same message - that would create the equivalent of ad fatigue. But here's what I would suggest for you to include in the message:

1)You did your best to comply.

2)You have no idea why the account was banned.

3)Ask politely for the reason why it was banned.

I want to stress here that it's important to be courteous. Remember how we were taught as kids to say "please" and "thank you" where appropriate? Don't use an accusing or impatient tone - FB reviewers are just doing their job. I'm sure they get enough nasty messages from pissed-off advertisers. We want to be a breath of fresh air.

Being genuine is also very important. Messages carry energy with them, and if we're not sincere in what we say, it will show through in the message. We have nothing to hide if we have indeed been doing our best to comply with their policies. It's not like we're trying to deceive them with excuses.

(I suspect it's not even always a human reviewer that replies to appeals - sometimes it may still be bots replying. But you can't go wrong with being courteous and sincere just in case.

Reason why I suspect bots may be replying, is I've gotten replies like this:



But I digress...)

The 3-punch combo above should suffice for a first appeal. If it was the oversensitive algo that banned the account by mistake, the reviewer would usually reactivate it.

I've never had to wait more than a day to get a response - FB support usually replies within a few hours. However, people have reported having to wait a week or longer for a response, so be patient.

You'll see your appeal and their response here:

https://www.facebook.com/support

I would keep this page open and refresh every once in a while to update it. Hopefully, within a few hours, you will see a reply like this:





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What If the Appeal is Rejected?

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What if, instead of the "We've reactivated your advertising account" message, you get a reply like this?



It's not the end! Try to appeal again.

As far as I'm aware, there are no set limits on the number of times you can appeal for a banned account to be reactivated. There were times when I had to appeal multiple times to get an account reactivated.

Even if they reject your appeal with "please consider this decision final", as long as the "Your response" box is still visible, you can still appeal - and I would encourage you to!



Chances are, it won't be the same reviewer that "handles your case". You'll likely have a different person (or even the bot!) replying to your appeal each time. The reviewers have different standards and interpretations and tolerances towards what constitutes a policy violation, so when you keep appealing, the next reviewer that comes along may just be more lenient, or more sympathetic to your plight/plea. So don't give up too soon!

For this and subsequent appeals, try to include one or more of the following elements. You can throw all of them into a message if you like - but keep in mind that if this appeal gets rejected again, you may run out of reasons.

(You can recycle these though, basically by rewriting the same message multiple times in subsequent appeals. I'll leave this to your discretion.)

1)Tell them you're an ad agency running ads for a client, and losing the ad account can really affect your business. (You can word this to sound more desperate.)

2)Restate the fact that you've done your best to comply with policies. Even tell them you've re-read all the policies and still don't know what you did wrong. Perhaps even describe at length WHAT you're promoting and your advertising angles to emphasize you're not trying to deceive users. If the product/service has been around for a while, or has received a lot of good customer reviews - anything you can think of that can instill trust - mention that as well.

3)If, after re-reading their policies again, you think you know what you did that may have caused the ban (e.g. wording in your ads): Tell them so! And express remorse at your mistake and vow to never do it again.

4)While logged into your FB account, go here to complete this module in the FB blueprint (Ad Policies for Content, Creative, and Targeting).

Go through all 4 lessons in the module. When you're done, you'll be marked as complete (this is why you need to be logged in - so they'll have a record of your progress). Take a screenshot of the certificate that's displayed afterwards.



Then, in your appeal, tell them you've gone through this module as they've requested (which they often do - I've pointed them out in the account ban notification screenshots above), and that you now understand their policies better.

5)Let them know that if all goes well, you're planning to run campaigns on facebook for a long time to come. (Emphasize on wanting to create a long-term relationship instead of flaunting the budget you can afford to spend - whatever amount it is, they won't likely care. There are advertisers spending millions with them a year that still can't get a rep.)


Also, in their reply, the reviewer may ask for additional details, or ask you to provide information to verify your account. Obviously, in this case, you wouldn't need to use any of the material above - just provide what they asked for.



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Introducing - FB Support Live Chat

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If you've waited a week and still haven't gotten a reply, you can try hitting up Facebook support's live chat. Not everyone has access to this feature apparently, and nobody seems to know how to get access if they don't already do (I have a suggestion on this though - will tell you later). But if you do have access, this is worth a try.

Go here - https://www.facebook.com/business/help

Scroll down to here:



Click on "Policy and Account Security", then select "My ad account was disabled":





Click on "Chat with a Representative":



Then fill out the form and "Start Chat".

To get your Ad Account ID, go to the Business Manager for that account and you'll see your ad account(s) listed with account ID(s).

Here's a sample of a filled-in form you can tweak for your purpose:



It's worth noting that at least some of these chat representatives don't have the authority to unban our accounts. In fact, the ones I've spoken to didn't even have access to the exact reasons why the account was banned. (I hope you have better luck.) But they may be able to get a reviewer to look at the account for you.


Alternatively, you can also message support by chat here: https://www.facebook.com/facebookadsupport


Lastly, as promised above: If you don't already have access to live chat, this is what I would suggest for you to do...

1)Schedule a call with a Facebook Marketing Expert: https://www.facebook.com/business/m/...xperts-program

2)While on the call, explain that your account was deactivated, and that you're not getting a reply. Ask for any help they can provide.

3)Hopefully, they'll put in a ticket to activate live chat for your account. They may call it "VIP Support".

How I found out about this: I was chatting with an FB Marketing Expert and asked him for tips on how to avoid account bans. He didn't have access to information as to why the accounts were banned in the first place (of course) but offered to put me in touch with "VIP Support". I got excited for a few minutes - until he sent over the link for the regular support live chat, which I ready had access to prior to our chat.

(Still very grateful for his help though!)


I guess that's all I have to say about appeals! The next post will be on FB accounts - I'll try to finish it and get it posted later tonight. Thank you everyone for your patience!



Amy

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02-18-2020 12:33 AM #2 jaybot (Veteran Member)

Tons of amazing info here, this stood out to me:

Quote Originally Posted by vortex View Post

1)Tell them you're an ad agency running ads for a client, and losing the ad account can really affect your business. (You can word this to sound more desperate.)
God, that's brilliant.

Come to think of it, if an agency is running ads for a client, how is that different than an affiliate running an offer for a network (who in turn is running it for an advertiser)?

I'm far too lazy to read through all of the FB Ads policies, and I know it's frowned upon, but are affiliate offers actually prohibited? It would be interesting to know the exact wording why.


02-18-2020 05:00 AM #3 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by jaybot View Post
Come to think of it, if an agency is running ads for a client, how is that different than an affiliate running an offer for a network (who in turn is running it for an advertiser)?

I'm far too lazy to read through all of the FB Ads policies, and I know it's frowned upon, but are affiliate offers actually prohibited? It would be interesting to know the exact wording why.
Haha thank you for your ongoing support!

The agency idea occurred to me when I spoke to my first Facebook marketing expert - I didn't want to mention "affiliate" because there's such negative connotation/reputation attached to that word.

(I mean, we DO have some pretty hardcore aggressive affiliates in our midst - heck I used to be one of them, so I say all this with love.)

Even in the middle of our conversation when the marketing expert asked me, "what's [affiliate network's name which was a parameter in my link]?" I "kept a straight face" and said, "oh that's the middle man that helps my client set up all the tracking and the links and the website."

And I wasn't lying really - just didn't want to be associated with something that MAY get all my accounts investigated or anything.

As for whether running affiliate links is allowed on FB: Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm 99.99% sure I've never seen facebook prohibit it anywhere in their policies.

Based on a mix of personal speculation and reading plus having talked to fellow affiliates that run on FB, this are what I believe the reasons why affiliate links tend to get ads rejected and accounts banned:

1)Affiliates have a tendency to be overly "salesy", some even to the point of misleading. We are a very creative bunch when it comes to advertising angles.

For those of you reading this and protesting "but I was running 100% compliant ads and STILL got banned!", the next reason may be why.

2)FB is bombarded with so many new accounts, new ads etc. etc. every single day, that it would be impossible to hire enough reviewers to manually evaluate and approve everything. So their bot/algorithm needs to do most of the heavy lifting, and one of the things it's programmed to do is "reject/ban by association" - which I've mentioned a couple of times before.

FB page having the same/similar name as one that's been banned in the past? Automatic ban.

FB ad having the same text/image/video as one that's been banned in the past? Automatic rejection (which then can lead to a ban).

FB account created or accessed by the same IP, being paid for by the same credit card (etc.) of a previously banned account? Automatic ban.

FB ad sending users to a link with the same domain as the one a previously banned account also sent users to? Automatic ban.

So if an affiliate network is using the same few link domains for all their offers, e.g. abctrk.com/?affiliateid=123&offerid=456, it MAY only take ONE affiliate running aggressive and getting banned for FB to flag all other accounts running links with the abctrk.com domain.

(@jaybot You understand this technical stuff better than I do. I explained in such detail just in case there are other members as "technically-challenged" as I am. )

The same probably also applies to pixels. Some affiliate networks would offer to put your FB pixel on the offer site to track conversions. While this is a good way to avoid using affiliate links, it would still put you and all the other affiliates that are also running the same offer (and also have their pixels on the site) in the same boat. So if one or more affiliate goes rogue (nobody knows what the threshold is), the fun is over for everyone.

Again - I don't have concrete proof that this is exactly how FB handles things, but we DO know that FB DOES do at least SOME banning by association - please read the section "Be Picky in Choosing What to Promote" here:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...B-Account-Bans


Finally - to answer your question:

Come to think of it, if an agency is running ads for a client, how is that different than an affiliate running an offer for a network (who in turn is running it for an advertiser)?
Below are what I believe to be the key differences...

For a typical agency running ads for a client, it would probably be the ONLY one running ads for that particular client, so we don't have the problem of other affiliates running the same link ruining the fun.

Secondly, affiliates running offers from affiliate networks tend to be more focused on profits and less so on the reputation of the advertiser. (Same can be said for the affiliate network - not all, but some/most.) Whereas ad agencies usually work quite closely with the client to get their approval on advertising angles etc., so would be less likely to pull the typical shit that would violate advertising policies.




Amy


02-18-2020 05:02 AM #4 William Yang (Senior Member)

Thanks Amy! Nice post!


02-18-2020 09:44 AM #5 andyqueue (Member)

Thanks Amy!! Great content!


03-20-2020 09:06 PM #6 takethespaceship (Member)

"FB account created or accessed by the same IP, being paid for by the same credit card (etc.) of a previously banned account? Automatic ban."

I guess -hide my ass- can help out here, in part. ... same credit card though.. ugh I only have a few lol. seems pretty grim

Thanks for the golden nuggets!


03-24-2020 10:54 AM #7 cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Having backup accounts is essential, even if you are running 100% white hat.

I would also suggest placing multiple pixels on your pages for each backup account so that if one goes down, you still have the duplicate audience and pixel data that you can still use from the backup accounts.


03-24-2020 11:36 AM #8 onlybest_KMA (Member)

Thanks you Vortex. This is very useful information.
This is very useful information.This is very useful information.


04-09-2020 04:43 PM #9 Fiddyshades (Member)

Thanks Amy! This is a great post. Very useful info you got here


06-30-2020 10:56 AM #10 rpatrocinio (Member)

Great information Amy, I don’t consider myself a beginner and I find this very useful. Thanks for sharing.

As far as I'm aware, there are no set limits on the number of times you can appeal for a banned account to be reactivated. There were times when I had to appeal multiple times to get an account reactivated.

Even if they reject your appeal with "please consider this decision final", as long as the "Your response" box is still visible, you can still appeal - and I would encourage you to!
I really don’t understand how this works, every time I re-appeal an account that was previously rejected I never get a reply from Facebook, it is like a dead thread/ ticket.

It not like they deny the appeal again, they just do not reply to the appeal at all.


06-30-2020 03:30 PM #11 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by rpatrocinio View Post
Great information Amy, I don’t consider myself a beginner and I find this very useful. Thanks for sharing.



I really don’t understand how this works, every time I re-appeal an account that was previously rejected I never get a reply from Facebook, it is like a dead thread/ ticket.

It not like they deny the appeal again, they just do not reply to the appeal at all.
Thank you @rpatrocinio for your kind support!

As for the lack of replies - sorry to hear that - that really sucks. I haven't experienced that myself. I believe there must be some quality score that FB's algo/reviewers will assign to an account or even a business manager, that only FB staff can see. And if the score is really low, they'd either stop showing the appeal option or in your case, stop replying altogether.

Gotta ask: Are you running whitehat?



Amy


06-30-2020 03:38 PM #12 rpatrocinio (Member)

Gotta ask: Are you running whitehat?
Yes, e-commerce.


06-30-2020 03:51 PM #13 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by rpatrocinio View Post
Yes, e-commerce.
Mind if I asked which niche? Ecom must be one of the "safest" business models.

But nobody is immuned these days it seems - even 100% legit businesses are getting banned, although risks are of course way lower than for affiliate businesses (even whitehat).

Also: Did they give ANY indication as to why the account was banned? And were your ads rejected at any point before the ban? If so, what was the reason for rejection?



Amy


06-30-2020 03:59 PM #14 rpatrocinio (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by vortex View Post
Mind if I asked which niche? Ecom must be one of the "safest" business models.

But nobody is immuned these days it seems - even 100% legit businesses are getting banned, although risks are of course way lower than for affiliate businesses (even whitehat).

Also: Did they give ANY indication as to why the account was banned? And were your ads rejected at any point before the ban? If so, what was the reason for rejection?



Amy
You are rigth, I rarely have issues with Facebook and when I do I appeal and usualy I get the ad account (or business manager) back.

This is not a specific situation. From time to time I get one ad account banned and I get the "sorry, you can not get it back" message. After that every time I reply to the ticket no one get's back to me, it's like the ticket is closed and no one is seeing the messages anymore.


06-30-2020 04:37 PM #15 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by rpatrocinio View Post
You are rigth, I rarely have issues with Facebook and when I do I appeal and usualy I get the ad account (or business manager) back.

This is not a specific situation. From time to time I get one ad account banned and I get the "sorry, you can not get it back" message. After that every time I reply to the ticket no one get's back to me, it's like the ticket is closed and no one is seeing the messages anymore.
Can you still post follow-up replies? If so, it really wouldn't hurt to do so once every couple of days. e.g. "I'm writing to follow up on the status of my account - please let me know what I can do to help."

Also: Have you contacted FB via live chat? Effectiveness aside, it's another thing you can do that 'wouldn't hurt'.



Amy


06-30-2020 05:24 PM #16 rpatrocinio (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by vortex View Post
Can you still post follow-up replies? If so, it really wouldn't hurt to do so once every couple of days. e.g. "I'm writing to follow up on the status of my account - please let me know what I can do to help."

Also: Have you contacted FB via live chat? Effectiveness aside, it's another thing you can do that 'wouldn't hurt'.



Amy
I still can reply, I will do that. I have spoke with chat support a few times but I did not bring this up, I'll also do that.

Thanks for the advice.


07-01-2020 08:53 PM #17 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by rpatrocinio View Post
I still can reply, I will do that. I have spoke with chat support a few times but I did not bring this up, I'll also do that.

Thanks for the advice.
If you don't get your account back, what would be your next steps?

Would it be possible to build a new site, new page, new ad account, new everything and start over?



Amy


07-02-2020 08:50 AM #18 rpatrocinio (Member)

If you don't get your account back, what would be your next steps?

Would it be possible to build a new site, new page, new ad account, new everything and start over?



Amy
Hi Amy,
Thanks for getting back to me on this.

It's not really an issue, I have other accounts I can use


07-05-2020 12:48 PM #19 michaelc (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by cmdeal View Post
Having backup accounts is essential, even if you are running 100% white hat.

I would also suggest placing multiple pixels on your pages for each backup account so that if one goes down, you still have the duplicate audience and pixel data that you can still use from the backup accounts.
Isn't it risky? After Facebook bans an account, all its assets get flagged, aren't they? So if you use the other pixels from the same landing page, your new account can get banned easier.


09-11-2020 11:38 PM #20 dseopro1000 (Member)

Hi Amy, Thanks so much for the info.

Would this work for someone who got restricted from advertising, meaning all BMs, personal ad account got disabled?

Fyi I run an ecom store selling joint pain related items...


09-12-2020 03:10 AM #21 affiliatecase (Member)

Here's a template I've came across one one of the Facebook ad groups. Not sure who it posted by, so no credit. Perhaps some of you might find it helpful.

To Whom It May Concern,
Reference business account: [Business account number ID]
First and foremost, please accept our sincerest apology for any errors or mistakes that we may have made during the process of running out Ad accounts.
If we have violated any policies, then it would not have been intentional as we have been successfully running Ads and campaigns for numerous [days/months/years] without any violation.
The following Ads accounts have been deactivated due to advertising policy violation:
[Ad account name and Ad account number ID]
We have successfully run multiple campaigns for almost [time frame] for the [webiste URL] website and products, with a variety of uniquely created Ads and/or duplicated Ads.
These Ad accounts have successfully allocated and spent a significant budget without any violations, I hope that this proves that any ad policy violation would not have been intentional on our behalf, nonetheless we are taking IMMEDIATE ACCOUNT TO RESOLVE all violations.
We have undergone the process of reading extensively the Facebook advertising policy https://www.facebook.com/policies/ads for the Ad Account: [Ad account name and Ad account number ID] and identified one of the sections that we have violated the following policy:

  • 31. Misleading Claims [HERE PICK SOMETHING FROM ONE OF THE FACEBOOK ADVERTISING Policies IF YOU CAN'T IDENTIFY EXACT ISSUE].

Here is exactly how our specific Ad in the Ad account: [Ad account name and Ad account number ID] violated that policy:

  • Our Ad stated [write something that could be perceived as a NEGATIVE, if you don't know exactly why you did wrong ]. We see how this can be perceived as misleading.

I want to state that we take full responsibility for the violation on the Ad accounts and that this was an oversight on our behalf. We are taking the following measures to ensure that these violations will never occur again:

  • Prior to activating an Ad, Ads will be cross-checked with the Facebook Advertising policy to ensure that they do not violate the policy.
  • Any changes to landing pages that audiences from Facebook may visit will be cross-checked with the Facebook Advertising policy to ensure that they do not violate the policy.
  • All staff members including Ad account managers, creative teams, copywriters, etc will undergo training ensuring that they understand the requirements from Facebook and the Facebook Advertising Policy is not violated
  • Immediate auditing of all Ads, landing pages, copy, images, videos, etc to ensure that they do not violate the Facebook advertising policies.

If I have left anything out or any suggestions that Facebook can provide to ensure that we do not violate the Facebook Ad policy, we look forward to your feedback.

Kind regards


09-16-2020 02:45 AM #22 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by dseopro1000 View Post
Hi Amy, Thanks so much for the info.

Would this work for someone who got restricted from advertising, meaning all BMs, personal ad account got disabled?

Fyi I run an ecom store selling joint pain related items...
By all means give it a shot! I can't think of any reason why appealing could make the situation worse - at the worst your accounts stay banned.

Joint pain relief - need to be careful about making claims, e.g. "make pain go away in seconds".

In case you want to advertise again under a new account: Try to get video customer testimonials if you can - stuff like "I wasn't able to walk too far before due to my bad knee, but now I'm able to go jogging every day" or "I can sleep through the night now because the pain is much reduced". It's better to have this stuff come out of customers' mouths instead of yours - both for FB and for the target audience.


Here's a template I've came across one one of the Facebook ad groups. Not sure who it posted by, so no credit. Perhaps some of you might find it helpful.
Thanks @affiliatecase! Always nice to have more good templates!




Amy


10-07-2020 12:18 PM #23 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Added: Alternatively, you can also message support by chat here: https://www.facebook.com/facebookadsupport



Amy


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