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WYSIWYG Web Builder for MAC/Linux Users... (15)


12-28-2011 09:50 PM #1 theguvna ()
WYSIWYG Web Builder for MAC/Linux Users...

Hey guys,

Polarbacon and others have touted WYSIWYG Web Builder as great program for making fast landing pages.

The problem is, for those of us that DO "drink the Kool-Aid" as polar so gently put it, there is no Mac version, and you need to run it in a VM of some sorts.

On the official wysiwyg web builder forum though, their support recently posted this as the official version for Mac/Linux, now in Beta for your downloading pleasure:

http://www.quickandeasywebbuilder.com/

This is the original forum topic:

http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/for...hp?f=5&t=42110

Seems like they're making that the new version for all platforms...

Disclaimer: I haven't downloaded this yet, so if it sucks don't crucify me... I'll be installing it pretty quick here though. For some reason the more marketing I do, the more my html/css skills suck.


12-28-2011 09:53 PM #2 mrgodlike (Member)

SWEET.

I hated having to go into parallels each time i wanted to run me some WYSIWYGWB


12-28-2011 09:57 PM #3 theguvna ()

Ya keep in mind if you read the PDF on that page, you'll notice some features haven't been brought over yet... just fyi.


12-28-2011 09:58 PM #4 jakz (Member)

I tried this one and there was just something about it I just didn't like. Sorry for lack of detail on that, but I am not even sure why I didn't like it.

I also tried Muse. It does a good job of building a page visually, but the code it spits out is highly bloated garbage.

I presently use Espresso, but it is not wysiwyg. Just learn some solid HTML, PHP and CSS and you will be gold. I used to be a network and security consultant, but never coded beyond:
10 print Steve
20 goto 10

But, in the past few months I have picked up enough knowledge to code sites just fine.


12-28-2011 10:01 PM #5 theguvna ()

lol... just tried to install this, and it says the current version has expired. Ah, thread = epic fail perhaps. Anyway thats where you can get it when they do have it there.

jakz I use Coda when doing manual editing and such... oddly I built websites for a long time, back when we only used tables really though.


12-28-2011 10:10 PM #6 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by jakz View Post
I tried this one and there was just something about it I just didn't like. Sorry for lack of detail on that, but I am not even sure why I didn't like it.

I also tried Muse. It does a good job of building a page visually, but the code it spits out is highly bloated garbage.

I presently use Espresso, but it is not wysiwyg. Just learn some solid HTML, PHP and CSS and you will be gold. I used to be a network and security consultant, but never coded beyond:
10 print Steve
20 goto 10

But, in the past few months I have picked up enough knowledge to code sites just fine.

thing is with WYSIWYG is they have this really cool extension builder....

which allows you to build very cool pieces of drag and drop code....

some of the things you can build with the extension builder is quite awesome....even just the little things...like frame break code...or other jquery bits....

It just makes making anything web wise super quick and easy.....and you can build awesome templates with it as well...so if you have a few standard dating lps you use....make them into templates and you can crank out pages at lightning speed....

just my 2 cents anyways....


12-31-2011 12:00 PM #7 julien (Member)

Oh my god, I love this tool!
Thank you for recommending this tool.
It's definitely a must have.

I'm very comfortable with HTML and CSS, but this tool is just awesome. I won't start my landing pages from scratch with Notepad anymore!
Everything goes quick and simple.

It took 1 hour for using this tool the exact way I wanted and I could create my first landing page with it very quickly.
My first impression is: now the technical challenge is not a problem anymore.
All my creativity is used for the design.

The thing that I appreciate more is the ability to drag and drop EVERYTHING.
It's over to spend hours to calculate each margin and padding of my div elements, I don't have to deal with clear:both, and I don't have to center each of my elements...

I love this tool, at the very first test I made on the free version yesterday, I bought it!

Polarbacon: I didn't find yet how to get the styles in a style.css file.
They're all included in the <head> section, or in the div element (<div style=".....">.

It doesn't bother me since I don't care about W3C and it doesn't matter if my code is strict or not, as long as it works, but it could be easier for reading and editing my HTML file.

Thanks for your help


12-31-2011 12:51 PM #8 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by julien View Post
Oh my god, I love this tool!
Thank you for recommending this tool.
It's definitely a must have.

I'm very comfortable with HTML and CSS, but this tool is just awesome. I won't start my landing pages from scratch with Notepad anymore!
Everything goes quick and simple.

It took 1 hour for using this tool the exact way I wanted and I could create my first landing page with it very quickly.
My first impression is: now the technical challenge is not a problem anymore.
All my creativity is used for the design.

The thing that I appreciate more is the ability to drag and drop EVERYTHING.
It's over to spend hours to calculate each margin and padding of my div elements, I don't have to deal with clear:both, and I don't have to center each of my elements...

I love this tool, at the very first test I made on the free version yesterday, I bought it!

Polarbacon: I didn't find yet how to get the styles in a style.css file.
They're all included in the <head> section, or in the div element (<div style=".....">.

It doesn't bother me since I don't care about W3C and it doesn't matter if my code is strict or not, as long as it works, but it could be easier for reading and editing my HTML file.

Thanks for your help
options>html> check the box "generate single css style sheet for global styles"

that will remove all but page specific styles from the head section


12-31-2011 01:14 PM #9 mrgodlike (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by polarbacon View Post
thing is with WYSIWYG is they have this really cool extension builder....

which allows you to build very cool pieces of drag and drop code....

some of the things you can build with the extension builder is quite awesome....even just the little things...like frame break code...or other jquery bits....

It just makes making anything web wise super quick and easy.....and you can build awesome templates with it as well...so if you have a few standard dating lps you use....make them into templates and you can crank out pages at lightning speed....

just my 2 cents anyways....
Can you go a bit more into detail on the extension builder?
I've never used it.


12-31-2011 01:41 PM #10 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by mrgodlike View Post
Can you go a bit more into detail on the extension builder?
I've never used it.
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/extension_builder.html

what this allows you to do is add extensions to the left menu that allow you too just drag and drop snippets of code you use alot....

things like....the maxmind js that goes in the <head> just make that into an extension...then just drag and drop it into the page....and it will insert that code in the head section of the page...

same for a popup...I have extensions that I made that do exit/entry pops....

yes you can code these into every page but why do that when you can make it once....then just drag it in...

works great with jquery too as you can do certain jquery functions as extensions.....

This imo is why WYSIWYG is awesome you can customize the hell out of it for whatever purpose you want....


and if your a real programmer by trade they have a even more advanced builder...that allows you to code stuff in vb, c++, and .net....


12-31-2011 01:46 PM #11 mrgodlike (Member)

Holy shit.... I've always manually added exit/entry pops, geoip, any jquery used... etc....

Thank you polar!


12-31-2011 03:05 PM #12 julien (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by polarbacon View Post
options>html> check the box "generate single css style sheet for global styles"

that will remove all but page specific styles from the head section
All right, it works. Thank you.
But do you know why it doesn't do the same thing for the styles on the elements?

For example, I have ton of styles like this in my body section:

<div id="Layer5" style="position:absolute;text-align:center;left:0px;top:584px;right:0px;width:95 2px;height:58px;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;z-index:66;" title="">
<div id="wb_Image5" style="position:absolute;left:472px;top:14px;width :100px;height:100px;z-index:3;padding:0;">

Instead of:
<div id="Layer5">
<div id="wb_Image5">

etc.


12-31-2011 03:30 PM #13 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by julien View Post
All right, it works. Thank you.
But do you know why it doesn't do the same thing for the styles on the elements?

For example, I have ton of styles like this in my body section:

<div id="Layer5" style="position:absolute;text-align:center;left:0px;top:584px;right:0px;width:95 2px;height:58px;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;z-index:66;" title="">
<div id="wb_Image5" style="position:absolute;left:472px;top:14px;width :100px;height:100px;z-index:3;padding:0;">

Instead of:
<div id="Layer5">
<div id="wb_Image5">

etc.

ya thats the one bit it fails at.....it adds extra css where it doesn't need to....thats about the only real "con" I have with the program...the code isn't super clean....

but the time savings far out weights the extra css....esp on jump pages as there isn't much to begin with....css wise


12-31-2011 04:49 PM #14 jakz (Member)

@julien, I think you are a mac guy(?) Is this the mac version you tried out? Does the mac version have the 'code drop' elements polarbacon is talking about?

When I tried the mac version is was a little bit ago and was an early beta, so perhaps the current version has much more and is not as clunky as the version I tried.


12-31-2011 05:03 PM #15 theguvna ()

Ive been using the mac version more now... I love it.


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