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What is the best way to start today? (52)

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Hello everyone,

Yes I know there are already topics that talk about it - but it just confuses me more, I want to hear directly from the experienced here - what are the best opportunity today for beginners in the world of affiliate marketing?
I want updated information from today and not from the beginning of the year

- What works best for beginners today? Where is the highest potential today for beginners ?

Of course what is important is my skill and all the things that are discussed here in the forum - I just want to know that I do not waste my time on things that would be hard ahead of me in the beginning.

if you had to offer only one as the best way to beginner what was it?

I'm talking about what they are:

1. best offer to promote today for beginners? (I will choose which one I desire most).
2. The best affiliate network for beginners for this offer ?
3. And what is the best source of traffic for beginners to promote this offer?
4. What is the best landing page method for a beginner? Blog? Testimonials page? / Other ?

That's all I need to get started.

Please do not send me to various topics in the forum - answer briefly directly from the trial owners here in one line on each of these questions.
I will simply take the conclusion from all the answers that will be received here.

It will help me a lot - thank you very much.

Yohai .

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What is your budget, where are you based, which languages do you know, what skills do you have, and have you done any marketing before?

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You best could do the 6 Week Affiliate Mastery Challenge

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If I recall right, you are starting or started a mastermind? Have you discussed this with them? Echo the same questions as cmdeal but with regard to your mastermind.

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rolandb

YES IM START TO Gather people at my level to work together .

I am talking about a monthly budget of up to $ 500 per month on ads to start - most likely the most deceptions will be in the beginning and therefore the budget should be low, English is not my first language - but that's the language I'm focusing on (using outsourcing) , the skills i have : i selling on amazon my private label something like 2 years , I have an understanding in the marketing world - and I feel overwhelmed with information, I have to start running

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on the affiliate marketing of course .

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Whatever language you speak is probably the language you should start in.

Tier 1 English geos are very competitive. It's not that you can't make it work, but the low-hanging fruit you're looking for lies elsewhere. What is your first language?

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hebrew - its only on israel :]

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We have those who do affiliate marketing here - but it's not even close to what goes on in America

" Whatever language you speak is probably the language you should start in." - you can please tell me why ?

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There are many HUGE affiliates based in Israel. At least a dozen of the people on the STM private plane to the STM Ibiza post AWE party in July were Israelis.

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wowww man cool to see and hear what you said - the video is great , but i dont think they doing the money from israel , they maybe promote on USA and places like that .

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Being a native speaker would give you an advantage over ppl who are outsourcing. There's are a lot of slang and phrases that make sense in one language but don't translate very well to another.

Maybe Hebrew isn't the ideal language to start in... I've never explored promoting things in Hebrew.

Here's an example of the difference between English and another language though:

I was promoting an offer on facebook in Canada that accepted English and French traffic. In English I could profitably spend about $1000 a day but the ROI was only about 25%. In French I was able to spend about $200 a day but the ROI was around 500%.

I've experienced similar differences in the states with english vs spanish.

Like I said, I'm not sure about Hebrew as an option but it's definitely worth exploring. Also, how's your Arabic? If you can speak it somewhat well I would look in to that as well.

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thank you for Your help - definitely creative ideas ,

The people who use Facebook from Israel - this is something like 5-6 million in total - the Hebrew language is for Israeli residents / Jews around the world - I do not know exactly how many but there are about 4 million Jews from the world on the Internet in my opinion ( i think only half or less know the hebrew language ) - In short, suppose there are 8 million people in the entire Internet (very rough estimate) Potential for Hebrew language .

Is this an ideal place to start? It is important to note that if we talk about competition then the Israelis are definitely strong about the issue of affiliate marketing in the world - and so the competition in Israel in my opinion is also strong on this small market.


My Arabic is not good at all:] The second language I know basically is English only .

Will it be important for me to know what you think given this data? thank you again razzbotI really appreciate it.

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This is what I would do IF IT WAS ME:

I think, given your background on amazon, I would look in to starting with dropshipping on facebook and focus on Israeli Hebrew speakers. It looks like a lot of sellers on aliexpress offer epacket shipping to israel for reasonable rates. There are roughly 3.6 million Hebrew speakers in Israel on facebook over the age of 18 and about half of those likely would be good targets for ecommerce.

Caurmen's ecommerce cookbook is an excellent guide to getting started with dropshipping on facebook.

If that doesn't sound like something you'd be interested in I would probably do this:

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I completely agree with Razzbot - ecommerce + FB + Israel using caurmen's Ecommerce Cookbook sounds like the ideal place to start for you.

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...d-Introduction

You can't go far wrong by mastering FB or Adwords, because these are probably the traffic sources with the highest-quality traffic and the highest traffic volume - and probably also the highest profits potential. Downside is that the learning curves for these are steeper than say pop or mobile display. I've touched on that in my post here:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post321311


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Another promising traffic type is Native. I don't personally run native, but know of people that are doing quite well just by copying camps from Adplexity Native:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ative-Spy-Tool

I've linked to places where you can find tips on using Adplexity, at the end of this thread:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post324203

Don't go for the super-competitive geos - stick with tier 3s and 4s and see how it goes. Native is an expensive traffic type to run - you need to throw money at cutting placements and lots of it, because payouts of offers that work on Native are typically larger than the $2-payout offers you see on pop. But targeting tier 3/4 geos will lower the costs for you.


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So the above options would be good if you either have the budget (for Native) or don't mind the steeper learning curve (for FB or Adwords).

If however you're wanting to go the easiest way - the lowest barrier-to-entry - then nothing can beat pop. Here's a step-by-step tutorial:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-Very-1st-Camp

But as you can see from one of the posts I linked to above, I wouldn't put all my eggs in the pops basket. God knows what will happen to pop starting next year.

However, pop is the easiest and faster way to learn how to set up campaigns. You can use them to learn testing approaches, how to set up tracking, how statistics work and how to test and cut offers and landers, how to analyze stats and optimize a camp accordingly, and other basics of affiliate marketing and running campaigns.

You may make your first profits from pop, but try not to be complacent and JUST do pop. As soon as you've learned the basics, try to expand into other forms of traffic (as I've mentioned in a post linked to above).

I'm not saying you can't make profits from pop. I'm just suggesting not to just run pop alone. As for offers and landers - check out Adplexity mobile:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...e-STM-Discount

This thread may also be of interest:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post323224


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So there you go - several options to choose from. Hope that helps!



Amy

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Thank you very much vortex razzbot The community here is just great and I'm so happy to hear your answers, I hope someday I can return you value as you give me or the rest of the community here ,

The reason I turned to affiliate marketing is the desire to develop marketing skills along with making money, I'm not interested in the things I've been dealing with (like Amazon) that include customer service and other things that you have in the ecommerce world, so your suggestions like "native ads" and "pop" Seems to me more relevant, I also got a ban from Facebook because of some sexy ad I tried for a diet
(Before I signed up for the forum and decided to take it seriously), I'm definitely going to start with the pop because of the needs to learn the basics in small amounts, I want to get a picture and understand how things step by step before I invest my more expensive budget.


As for the 6amc course, I understood that part of the course talks about Facebook - are there other solutions instead of Facebook? I would be happy to receive answers about this from someone who knows.


Thank you very much dear friends.

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from www.6wamc.com:

"TRAFFIC TYPES COVERED

Mobile display
Pops
Facebook"

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Is not this a mandatory part of the process? Use Facebook? Can I choose to use pop / mobile display?

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH

Do you think - geo has Israel in pop? and if that will be right to do that?

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For pops I would go much broader than just one country. You really need a lot of campaigns to reach scale on pops in most cases. Pops aren't my focus for exactly that reason so I'm not really the guy to be giving a lot of advice about them.

There are a ton of great tutorials and follow alongs on here and a lot of people with a TON of success on pops - Vortex being a prime example. Her posts on the subject are gold.

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Razzbot has hit the nail on the head there (as humble as he is).

To succeed with pop, you need to be running in lots of geos and/or on lots of traffic sources - or at least focus on a few of the bigger geos. Israel is just too small to be making a substantial income from if you're wanting to run pop traffic to the typical cpa offers like sweeps and antivirus and what-not. Plus there aren't that many offers available for this geo - most of the ones I remember seeing are international offers.


Aw shucks...so good of you! Thank you.




Amy

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Want to add a link to a fantastic post on how to copy Native camps from Adplexity Native:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ive-These-Days

Forgot to include this in my post above.



Amy

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thank you very much guys ,

From what I'm picking up until now about the world of Internet marketing - that the world is already taking big steps to the mobile world, and probably in a few years it will be even bigger, so any preoccupation that will not be connected to mobile - could be a waste of time, am I right? For this to be even more specific about my ads, I think focus on learning the mobile world (start with pop ad for studying the image of affiliate marketing)

what you think about that?


thank you again - its very helpful me all thats advice, i really apricate it

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There are people making money on both desktop and mobile. But yes, mobile is big. But that's just a targeting option. You'll get access to mobile traffic no matter which traffic type you run - pop, display, FB, search, native, adult vs. mainstream. And you'll be targeting mobile for most offers you run (aside from desktop games and toolbar offers etc. that don't involve mobile).



Amy

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Do you know how much investment I need to know that I am at least at risk in order to store enough information in pop ads?

I just want to plan the risk .

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Are you asking how much budget to spend for each campaign? Or how much budget to spend to reach consistent profits?

Either question would be tricky to answer. But if you're looking for a budget that you'll need to spend before you can reach profits consistently, for pop, I would say $3k-5k. Could be more, could be less. It will depend on a lot of factors.

I would suggest that you subscribe to Adplexity mobile and learn how to use it efficiently - it will help you achieve success faster - see the list of links I've included at the end of this post:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post324203

You can get a discount on Adplexity mobile here:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...e-STM-Discount

Also - pop isn't the only type of traffic. Try to use pop to learn the basics, then expand to other traffic types - I believe native, FB and Adwords have more profits potential.

Hope that helps!



Amy

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Honestly, the Ebay thing sounds like a nightmare and I wouldn't recommend it at all. You'd be trying to sell medium to high ticket items for tiny commissions. I'm sure ebay's payment terms are terrible. Monthly Net30 at best would be my guess. You could either kiss your ad dollars goodbye or spend months chasing organic traffic to make peanuts. Neither one sounds appealing to me.

You're definitely over-complicating things here. The MOST important thing for you to do right now is to pick something and try it. Planning something out for weeks on end is counterproductive at this point. You could waste a month planning something that won't work OR you could spend that month trying things until you find something with promise. These things will cost you money instead of time but it can be a very small amount of money if you're smart about it.

I would strongly recommend you pick either pops or dropshipping in the next 24 hours and get to work. Start a follow along and set a goal to have your first campaign running by the end of the week. Anything that doesn't get you closer to that goal right now is a distraction.

Whichever option you choose, you can get up and running very cheaply and have data coming in RIGHT AWAY. It won't require a ton of traffic for you to know if you want to keep going or not. A couple hundred bucks worth of traffic should give you a good idea about the potential of either option. If you don't like the first one you choose, try the other one next month.

Neither of these methods is guaranteed to make you money - it's entirely up to you whether you succeed or not. Both will take a lot of work. Pops are lower risk but the potential profits are smaller. Dropshipping on facebook is a little riskier but the potential is much bigger in my opinion.

What I can tell you is that these are the 2 methods you are going to get the most help with in here. Nobody is going to straight up dump a profitable campaign in your lap, but there are dozens of people with a ton of expertise in both areas who are more than willing to help someone who puts in the effort.

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Affiliate commissions from eBay are really low, so very few people on STM bother with this.

If you are going to do eBay, I would probably rather do drop shipping. See what the popular items are on Ebay in Israel and then set up your own store. It will probably be about the same amount of work, with a higher reward,.

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I understand that it seems that I am checking things too much - I have no doubt that the results will come only from actions and not from only planning, but it's money that is important to me to make the most of it, i take your advice and i will start on the next 24 hours:
. - i dont want dropshipping becuse like i said - i want to fe focus only marketing.


The only last thing I will ask on in this post is:


For what vortex suggested - about the types of ads natvie ads :


I have the opportunity to start with tools to help me on this subject (I purchased the course of john crestani) and has in the course already lists of:
whitelist + blacklist + Exclusions (Locations, ISPs, IPs) + types of landing page


He has strong tools in the course that will help me on the subject as well.


what i need to know about that ad type that we not talked here ?


thank you again for all

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If you're worried about spending money I would stay away from native ads for now. The stuff that usually works there is high payout/low conversion. It takes a lot of money to test a single offer.

On pops you can test dozens of offers for less than it would cost to test one offer on native.

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Shalom Yochai,

I'd focus on one thing, especially if you are feeling 'fatigued' with your current traffic.
Not a fan of eBay, but of course some people are killing it with ebay.

i'd try and scale what you are selling on amazon, any way to bringing in traffic an pressing on it.
The stats you shared are nice, but it's the same trend across the world - more online sales - Duh!

Capitalize be zeroing in on a product / line of products and start adding traffic sources while learning the ropes.
What is the best selling PLR product of yours?

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razzbot thank you again ! its very helpful .

From what I see by your posts and vortex's that if i going on pop ads it will be the best step right now.

thanks .

basedaffiliate

thank you - But I think that ebay is less of a direction now - just wanted to make sure with forum members.
This is the first traffic source I choose for afffiliate marketing .

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Sweet. Congrats on making a decision! Looking forward to your follow along.

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razzbot


Thank you for your support - appreciate it very much and wish you the same support as you give others when you need answers.

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Vortex is right, facebook, google or native all offer higher profit potential than POPs, but they also require higher budgets ... especially Native sources. Those are so poluted with BOTs, that it's generally recommended to have AT LEAST $10.000 to try anything there. I'm not saying you would lose all that money, but finding and blocking the poor widgets (placements) in native simply takes a very long time, plus new ones appear in the mix pretty much daily.

POPs might not be the best decision, considering their current profit potential, but it's still the cheapest way of learning the basics of AM.

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I know 2 things: I need to acquire skill and the basics of affiliate marketing + I want to do it the cheapest way. (Because of the place for many mistakes).


This is why I said the best decision, please share here for other people who will read the post Do you think there is another way?

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Given what you are looking for, I really think you would benefit from www.6wamc.com

I think you need to take action, but you need people guiding you along the way and making sure you are doing things properly. That is what the 6 week affiliate mastery challenge is all about.

You remind me somewhat of hlyghst who was also trying to figure out affilate marketing after dabbling in the space.

Check out hlyghst's first post on STM https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-pat-in-Saigon

and his success story a few months later after taking 6WAMC

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...AMC-STM-london

and after a year of starting affiliate marketing, he became a moderator on STM!

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Thank you for that I'm really considering this offer .

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Nothing beats POPs when it comes to JUST the cost... it's simply the cheapest traffic and it's good enough for learning the basics. On the other hand, it's flooded with BOTs, pretty much every newbie is testing there ... so it's easy to get lost there and adopt the wrong habits without having someone to consult your steps with ... STM can serve as such a reference party. But it's still "JUST" a forum, so it takes time to get a reply from time to time ...

If you feel that you could use more personal help and want to cut down the learning curve, the 6WAMC course that cmdeal mentioned is actually an awesome option too ... you can still use POPs, as that's one of the traffic types that the students always use ... but on top of that, you will get the help from a team of people, who are dedicated to help the students around the clock. Sure, it costs extra, but I've yet to meet one person who wasn't satisfied with the content of the course.

So to sum it up ... POPs are the most cost effective way of learning the basics of affiliate marketing and STM is here to help you with any possible questions. But for anyone who is in need of higher level of support and want's to cut down the learning curve in a dramatic way, 6WAMC is pretty much the best for of education you can get

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@yohaimor: VERY nice research job! Knowing how to do research online is a very valuable skill. But yes I would agree with razzbot that in such an initial stage, it would be more important to not think too much. Just get started and go from there - it's highly unlikely for your first couple of campaigns to be wildly profitable anyways, and even more unlikely for you to stick with the same geo forever.

Regarding native - I'm not an expert with this traffic type (have only dabbled in it and not run heavily - yet). I have not taken John's course either so can't comment. Do check out the links I've included in my previous post, and ask further questions in the Native section:

https://stmforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?202-Native

Best of luck!



Amy

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thank you very much I have to plan my budget - I have to prepare at least 3-5K for learning the basics at first and try the pop ads , if I add to that 3K of this course its will be 6-8 K .

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@vortex @razzdot - do you think that i can make with 4k (spend on ads ) in 100 days (Hours spend at least 8 a day):

income of 3,000 $ per month from pop ads only ??

Are these scenarios happening - or do I have nothing to expect in the first few months?

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Don't forget about 2 things : there are bonuses in traffic credits + you will spend less $ on traffic because the teachers will help you avoid most of the mistakes.

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@ matuloo what you think about that ?

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$100 per day is definitely doable with POPs, $4k is a solid budget too ... hard to say if you'll be able to make it in 100 days You can be all motivated and stuff, but as soon as the frustration kicks in, you might see things in a different light.

But yes, these things are happening. $100 per day isn't anything special in AM in general, people usually make multiples of that, or they don't make it at all.

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Thank you very much - for your patience and for answering all the questions - I appreciate you very much, thank you

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First few months will be horrible for you, especially when I read through your posts. Master one traffic source/vertical/geo and focus on that.
Start reading instead of questioning. Start launching/testing instead of hesitating. And yes you will lose hunderds of dollars the first weeks. But that is part of the journey. Otherwise don't start with AM/IM at all.

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Thank you for taking another angle - my problem is not to read - believe me I read endlessly, I need to act - and the reason I ask so much is that I do not have much "money to waste", so I try to get as much information as possible before .

But the kind of responses you give here draw more attention to me, and thank you for that, too.

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What stickupkid had in mind, was that actually launching something will answer a large part of the questions you still have for sure, and it will actually help you to find out what areas you REALLY need help with, so you can ask the right questions in the future

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Let me sum up this thread...



EDIT - Your new theme song:

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In all seriousness though, You'll learn more spending $100 on traffic in one day than you can learn in a month of research.

But Also.....

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I believe looking for 'the best' is not a good mentality, and synonymous with shiny object syndrome, but ill give it a go anyways. This is what I recommend to my students who are all basic beginners just starting out in affiliate marketing

1. A book or something under $25 on amazon.
The conversion rates will be high, there wont be any compliance problems, you can direct-link with no problems, and you can pick any niche to promote (weight loss, skincare, make money, etc)

2. Amazon

3. Free traffic sources, Google SEO, Facebook, or Youtube VSEO. Free is always easiest for getting started

4. Blog post.


Hope that helps.

JC

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