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What am i doing wrong? (23)


11-01-2011 02:17 AM #1 hmate9 (Member)
What am i doing wrong?

I've burned through $120 of advertising budget, and no result so far.

WHAT ELSE COULD I DO?

Here is my lander: http://freebigbrandrewards.com/jb/

It has an 8% CTR

But no matter what I do, I cannot make a profit.

I've tried 3 different offers, I am now trying to iframe the offer, adding a time warning etc.

But no profit??

What else can I do to make a profit?

I have $80 left and want to make it count.


11-01-2011 02:19 AM #2 godspeed (Member)

Where are your other LP's?


11-01-2011 02:19 AM #3 hmate9 (Member)

Maybe I should be promoting vitoria's secret?


11-01-2011 02:21 AM #4 godspeed (Member)

Whatever you promote is not going to work until you start listening what others are telling you.
You need to test more LP's with more offers and targets.


11-01-2011 02:25 AM #5 corp (Member)

Everything.

I'd say give up, but you seem to do the exact opposite of what people recommend.

So, keep building more campaigns. Never quit!


11-01-2011 02:32 AM #6 hd2010 (Member)

Not to bash you, drop AM, get a job, have at least $1k then start whacking again


11-01-2011 02:52 AM #7 ibanez (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by hd2010 View Post
Not to bash you, drop AM, get a job, have at least $1k then start whacking again
Exactly, OP you dont seem to get it. People have told you 100000000x about what you should be doing.


11-01-2011 02:56 AM #8 zeno (Administrator)

You seem to keep jumping from one angle/approach to another every day and never really testing anything properly. You are unlikely to make much profit that way, it's why most people fail and quit IM. Perhaps ditch your approach and start a new campaign, don't over think things and stop changing 2-3 variables every day. Also, $120 is not much of a loss. I spent over $2000 on Facebook before I hit a profitable campaign, so I was over $1500 down before I even saw a positive ROI.

I know shit all about PPV so listen to the advice others give you. If they say add more targets and split test some more landers/offers then do that, don't change other things. Those who make money know how to make money.


11-01-2011 02:58 AM #9 inversion (Member)

I say go with Victoria's secret.


11-01-2011 03:01 AM #10 jonas33h (Member)

Damn seems like a WF thread up in here. . . The first thing I would do is go back and look over all the shit people told you to do in the first place, and if you don't like what people have suggested then just stop doing whatever you are currently doing and try something different. Obviously doing the same shit doesn't work so move on.

But seriously if you aren't going to listen to people advice in a paid forum do yourself a favor and save $100/month that you can blow on ads.


11-01-2011 07:55 AM #11 hmate9 (Member)

Ok. Testing more landers + promoting Victoria's secret


11-01-2011 09:00 AM #12 spdg (Member)

Why did you switch to a Rihanna vs Bieber LP?

Ok, here's the thing. You need to understand the psychology of fanatical music fans. Young teen girls -- the main demo -- who love JB. They probably know everything about him. They spend every waking minute dreaming about him. They attend JB themed parties. They dress up as JB on Halloween.

You get the point. They pride themselves on knowing everything there is to know about JB. They're true fans.

So, when you show them an LP saying "Bieber with Gomez? Is it true?" They immediately think, "OMG yes! I heard about that! It is sooooo cute! I'm gonna show how how big of a fan I am by pressing the YES button! I bet I'm right!"

When you show them an LP asking "Bieber vs Rihanna -- who sold more?" it's not exactly a question that a fanatic would care that much about. It's not really testing their Bieber knowledge directly. It's not an "OMG I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT BECAUSE I'M SUCH A HUGE FAN!" LP, even if they do happen to be fans of both.

Ok, the reason I'm telling you this is because you shouldn't forget that fundamentally what we're doing here is MARKETING. Step one of marketing is understanding the consumer mindset. What would a Bieber fan really, really care about? What will draw their clicks? Get inside their heads. Think from their perspective. Don't copy blindly; innovate, but do so wisely and intelligently. Always be thinking, but don't be overthinking.

Ok, I'm done now.

Keep at it, dude. The most important thing is to keep on building. But build smart, and take all feedback -- both what you get through your own testing and what you get through others on this forum -- into account.


11-01-2011 09:02 AM #13 index (Member)

^^^well said


11-01-2011 09:44 AM #14 deondup (Member)

Is Justin Bieber Really Gay?


>> For Sure! >> NO Way

Use this idea and report back on your CTR. Provoke people if you want to use this. Jordan's original campaign worked because at the time it was the hot topic in the media. You have to ride trends or be "extreme". Rotate at least 5 different offers to see what the audience responds to.

Play to win.
DO NOT play not to lose


11-01-2011 09:51 AM #15 deondup (Member)

or...



lol


11-01-2011 11:08 AM #16 m0thm4n (Member)

I have the weirdest boner right now...


11-01-2011 11:52 AM #17 alex_b (Member)

damn nyanm0th, nice PS skills. I feel so confused right now...


11-01-2011 11:55 AM #18 ppchound (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by deondup View Post
Is Justin Bieber Really Gay?


>> For Sure! >> NO Way

Use this idea and report back on your CTR. Provoke people if you want to use this. Jordan's original campaign worked because at the time it was the hot topic in the media. You have to ride trends or be "extreme". Rotate at least 5 different offers to see what the audience responds to.

Play to win.
DO NOT play not to lose
Don't forget to include the options:

'VERY gay' and 'Just helps out when they're busy'.


11-01-2011 12:01 PM #19 m0thm4n (Member)

damn nyanm0th, nice PS skills. I feel so confused right now...
Haha yeah just some google image magic right there!


11-01-2011 01:08 PM #20 tijn (Moderator)

Oh man can this get any weirder!!! Lol - thanks for the laugh this morning.

Quote Originally Posted by deondup View Post
Is Justin Bieber Really Gay?
Quote Originally Posted by deondup View Post
Quote Originally Posted by m0thm4n View Post
Keep the photo shopped biebers coming.


11-01-2011 03:09 PM #21 hmate9 (Member)

It might be a good laugh, but whilst I appreciate all your feedback, I definitely think that a gay in lander would get a lot of clicks, I can't really convert it can I?

"Is JB gay? Get an iPhone of you get it right!!!"

Doesn't sound very good right?

However, here is my idea.

His album came out only HOURS ago. I'll build a lander based around that.

And one more question: would you expect higher conversions if the offer I was promoting was iframed like www.freebigbrandrewards.com/JB/iframed.php ?


11-01-2011 03:11 PM #22 hmate9 (Member)

Sorry, the link is http://www.freebigbrandrewards.com/jb/iframe.php

Would you expect higher conversions? Anyone have any experiences with that?


11-01-2011 03:58 PM #23 hmate9 (Member)

^^ I'll keep that in mind


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