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02-24-2012 05:32 PM #1 marketone (Member)
Ok Fellas Need your insight!

Ok so i have been following along for awhile now. I have done a few random campaigns when i first started that didn't work out. By no means did that discourage me as i'm in this for the long haul. I have a decent budget to work in the mid xx,xxx.xx. So now my biggest hurdle is finding an offer. I am not sure what vertical i want to run with or what traffic source i want to start with. I am ready to make moves and get this show on the road. So what i'm asking all you experienced affiliates out there is if you were just getting started with what you know now. What vertical and traffic source would you start off with and why? Look forward to your response.


02-24-2012 05:52 PM #2 Mr Green (Administrator)

What vertical depends on the source. What source depends on you ( the vast majority of sources can all make decent profit). There is no wrong source.

So you just gotta narrow it down some how. What was the source you failed on? You should probably stick with that since you know it. Based on your answer we can give offer recommendations.


02-24-2012 09:18 PM #3 marketone (Member)

Ok so that offer was a fast cash for homes offer. I have a back ground in real estate so i picked that initially. It was a tough offer and i had little experience. I also ran it on every traffic source i could find. it was before i found stm and realized that was a dumb move. I know now i need to stick to one traffic source and crack the code before moving on to others. I want to find an offer in a larger vertical that i can scale fairly easily once i can manage to get profitable. I am not asking for the exact diagram to a profitable campaign. I just dont want to spend the next 30 days working on a campaign in a bunk genre that cant be scaled because of my inexperience. I have asked my am at ewa and still waiting for a response. I am ready to make moves and am sick of sitting on the bench. Thats why i asked all you experienced guys what you would focus on if you were just getting started with the knowledge you have now. Any help is greatly appreciated.


02-24-2012 09:28 PM #4 Mr Green (Administrator)

What was the main traffic source? Traffic sources are usually not the problem, the offers are.


02-24-2012 10:05 PM #5 marketone (Member)

The main one i would say was google. I ran it on tv, fb, pulse and adknowledge also. It didnt work out so well. It gave me experience as far as tracking and running a campaign.


02-24-2012 10:13 PM #6 marketone (Member)

just pm'd you on another subject. Thanks for putting my thread in right spot.


02-24-2012 11:15 PM #7 marketone (Member)

Any one care to comment? Come on i'm sure i'm not the only one struggling with this when first starting out. I'm sure the new affiliates could use this insight from you vet's out there. I know i could.


02-25-2012 04:55 AM #8 dubbsy (Member)

I think you misinterpreted what Mr. G was saying... from what you posted, you tested the same offer on many different traffic sources and it didn't work. So you ONLY tested the offer.

What Lorenzo was saying is that you can turn profit with any traffic source (there are people making money with all of them), but the offers that convert on those sources are usually what changes.

Pick one traffic source... doesn't matter which one really, and it sounds like you've tested all of them, pick the one you like the most/most comfortable with, and then try different verticals and offers until you find ones that have potential.

If I were you, I'd pick something lead gen, like dating, gaming, daily deals... or something that appeals to the masses and doesn't require too much preselling (ie: pulling out a credit card), and start testing.

Ask your am what offers are converting on the traffic source you picked, and start there. Split test offers till you find winners, then take the winning combos to other traffic sources. Start other campaigns with different verticals and rinse and repeat, or just stick with that vertical and scale as much as you can.

Just my 2 pennies


02-25-2012 09:59 AM #9 shermanchoo (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by marketone View Post
Ok so i have been following along for awhile now. I have done a few random campaigns when i first started that didn't work out. By no means did that discourage me as i'm in this for the long haul. I have a decent budget to work in the mid xx,xxx.xx. So now my biggest hurdle is finding an offer. I am not sure what vertical i want to run with or what traffic source i want to start with. I am ready to make moves and get this show on the road. So what i'm asking all you experienced affiliates out there is if you were just getting started with what you know now. What vertical and traffic source would you start off with and why? Look forward to your response.
1. VERTICALS:

the niche within the niche - these type of offers can be CPS. because its a very targeted audience. Targeted Audience will pay $100 for specific solutions.
eg: Instead of "How To Make Money" becomes "How To Make Money On The Apple Store With Your 1st Iphone App"

biz ops, financial offers are - these are evergreen. any traffic source with decent volume will earn you monies
because it appeals to very wide audience. the con to this is... you need creativity to make your lander compliant
if going with the common traffic sources.

anti aging, weightloss - targeted at 40-55 yr old women. with the right drop ship products, min $1500 profit per month. and some do $40,000 a month.

2. Traffic Source

I've tried Lead Impact, MediaTraffic, Google, Bing, Facebook, POF, Airpush, Admob, Jumptap and other funky traffic sources...

Search allows the best conversions for CPS.

PPV and Facebook traffic - try to build a lander that offers a lead capture, before pushing for a sale.
at the very least, you have people you can contact in the near future.


02-25-2012 03:35 PM #10 marketone (Member)

Great guys I appreciate your input. I have a game plan that I put together once I pick an offer. I was just having a hard time with it. Sounds simple but there are so many offers in so many verticals. For a newbie it's a little over whelming. I just don't want to spend the next month testing and then if lucky get positive roi and not be able to scale. I don't have enough experience in the industry to know the different verticals and challenges I will face. I know you all have a lot more experience in different verticals and can share your insight. I will take it from there.


02-25-2012 03:52 PM #11 lixor (Member)

inversion i think made a video "goals - strategy - action" (can't find the link right now) watch it, for sure it will help you


02-25-2012 04:38 PM #12 marketone (Member)

How can I find it? Is it on STM?


02-25-2012 07:06 PM #13 lixor (Member)

here is the link: http://www.screencast.com/users/walt...5-3a40a402d292

i found it very useful especially when he talks about how to prepare to set up your strategy, it will help you evaluate your strong and weak points and choose the right traffic source and vertical. also, few days ago, smaxor posted something about how is choosing the verticals, search for it. and few months back he gave to one guy tips about how to start in fb, search for that too, it's a must read post.

personally i find ppc to be the best option to start, people are already searcing for what are you trying to promote so it should be easier.

one tip, you said you're not going to, but want to reinforce this, don't give up, i know nothing about you, but i don't think you'll ever have a better chance to financially change your life or even get rich.


02-26-2012 01:23 AM #14 marketone (Member)

Thank you so much lixor I really appreciate it.


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