Facing Account Bans On WH Lead Gen - Help Me Understand Why? [Angle Inside] (11)
Facing Account Bans On WH Lead Gen - Help Me Understand Why? [Angle Inside]
Hi,
So I tried to run a lead gen campaign - completely white hat car insurance for the US market. (I previously tried to run sweeps but had the same thing happen and I was banned for 'Unacceptable Business Practices' which was ofc true so I decided to stay wh with lead gen. That was a different ad account).
Anyway, I launched the campaign yesterday and got my ad account banned in a couple of hours. Appealed. Got the account back. All the ads were approved and ran for a few minutes I think (saw 4 clicks on one ad). Then, I was banned again.
This time they said...
'Account reviewed
After a requested review of this ad account, we've confirmed that it didn't comply with our Advertising Policies or other standards. The ad account will remain disabled.[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85)]'
[/COLOR]I'm obviously going to appeal again but I'm trying to understand where I went wrong? From what I hear, people aren't really facing bans on lead gen.
My theories are:
1. I didn't quite warm the ad account up so maybe my business didn't seem legit enough.
I have a few posts on my fan page. And boosted a post for about 5 days. But that's all the account warm up I did and reading this guide by Jani I'm guessing that wasn't enough: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...yOKCx2Clk/edit
What do you think? What process do you follow to warm up accounts to increase your account survival chances?
2. The other theory I had is the angle. The angle I used is 'gas prices are high - save on car insurance'. Used a few memes as images too.
So maybe this was considered aggressive? Although I've seen other ads running this angle & I assume this would result in creatives being rejected not account ban?
Let me know what your thoughts are about this and what I should do differently next.
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Thank you!
Was there a footprint in the way you've set up the new account?
i.e. Any commonality between the new and ANY banned accounts? E.g. BM, FB page, IP, email, payment method, device, creatives?
I'm not sure if the warming up was sufficient, because I haven't done blackhat in years. However, when I WAS doing it, the warming up process involved a LOT more than what you've described, and for a lot longer than 5 days. I'd imagine it could only have gotten more difficult in the last few years, i.e. requiring more work to warm up.
Amy
Originally Posted by vortex
Yes, it was the same BM, email (personal account), IP and device and payment method. I assume that was the issue.
I have another BM that I’m going to test out on now.
However, does IP, device, payment method really matter? I’m not sure how I’ll be able to get new ones of each of these.
Also, it was WH. Nothing BH this time.
What do you suggest I do to test the next set of creatives considering all this? And with the new BM - any idea what I’d need to do to warm up?
You might wanna have a look at your copy and also mostly I noticed its because of flagged domains used by aff networks in tracking links, That is one big factor in affiliate accounts getting banned.
Originally Posted by kjrocker
About tracking links, is there any way I can check if a domain is flagged/shady before running it to prevent this from happening?
Originally Posted by projectzero
Try your links with this, it will let you know if they have been banned or not. I can't promise that it is always correct.
https://developers.facebook.com/tools/debug/
Originally Posted by iwanttofly
"We can't review this website because the content doesn't meet our Community Standards. If you think this is a mistake, please let us know."
Does that mean tracking link is an issue? That's a bit strange because I'm running with Clickdealer and I know others are successfully using their tracking link for FB ads. (The offer I tried to promote has an affiliate doing big numbers via FB traffic apparently).
Originally Posted by projectzero
(And if you're pushing affiliate links that a number of other affiliates are also pushing, then you most likely will lose accounts - no matter how whitehat your angels are.)
Basically if an account gets banned permanently (where multiple appeals can't get the account reactivated), any other accounts new or old that are associated with it in ANY way, would be at risk of getting banned as well.
So yes - stuff like IP, device, payment methods REALLY do matter.
If you do a search on blackhatworld you'll find a ton of information on how to get new EVERYTHING.
And that's only account creation - then there's warming up.
To run on FB these days, I would say at least half or most of the work is about solving the accounts issue.
You either:
1)Have access to a steady stream of accounts (through farming/buying/renting or a combination thereof) that get banned at a slower rate than you can recoup your investment,
OR
2)Get access to an agency account.
Does that mean tracking link is an issue? That's a bit strange because I'm running with Clickdealer and I know others are successfully using their tracking link for FB ads. (The offer I tried to promote has an affiliate doing big numbers via FB traffic apparently).
I talked about this in the section "Affiliate Links - and the Risks Hierarchy" in this post here: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post387512
It's frustrating having to deal with account bans. Unfortunately that is a big part of the game. If you can figure this out, you've won at least half the battle.
Amy
Pretty much spent 80% of the time at AW Barcelona meeting companies and people providing the account infrastructure.
And the best ones don't actually have a stand and you meet them at the parties when you push some affiliate managers hard enough 
It can be many reasons, even can be not your ads problems. I even get un-restricted sometimes for grey hat sweepstakes and I can't unban WH leadgen ad accounts. FB is a bit random for sure. Try agency ad accounts on them if I got any ban, basically always got unbanned or faced more fan page restrictions or BM restrictions but ad account is alive.
There is absolutely no point in asking why your account was blocked. It's a waste of time. You will never know the reasons. Facebook is a terrible ad network with a lot of bugs. Facebook has dozens if not hundreds of different artificial intelligences that are actually very stupid. They can block your accounts even for no reason.
Your task is to submit the maximum number of appeals in order to unblock the account.
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