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05-24-2022 08:37 PM
#1
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
Twinaxe Special: Propeller Ads Push WL
Hello friends.
Today I want to share with you one of my whitelists for Propeller Ads Push traffic.

The WL is a global list that´s built from campaigns in 13 different geos and 5 different verticals.
The zones in the list generated more than 120k conversions in total and all zones in this list generated at least 10 conversions each.
The zones also all have a positive average ROI across all campaigns where they received traffic from and all of the campaigns where I got the zones from had a positive total ROI as well.
What´s the WL good for?
It´s a global WL with zones that showed good performance across many different campaigns, this means that it´s not focused on just 1 geo or 1 vertical and it can be used more or less for all geos and verticals.
It can be used for more effective testing when you don´t have to weed out bad zones first.
Of course it can happen that some zones perform better or worse in a specific geo/vertical but on average they are all good and stable performers, they all have 10 conversions minimum and not just 1 or 2 lucky hits.
The list can also be used for scaling.
Some of the biggest zones alone generated several thousand conversions each, the biggest zone generated more than 11k conversions.
The top 10 zones generated already 59k conversions, that´s about 50% of all conversions from 498 zones.
The list can´t do wonders and you still need a good offer for a good campaign but it can still help alot to have a good basic list for testing and in best case also for scaling.
Of course I can´t promise that the zones perform that good for your campaigns as well but I ran the campaigns in 13 different geos and 5 different verticals so the chances are good that it works for your campaigns as well 
There are some small limitations however if you want to use the whitelist:
- It´s from 100% mobile campaigns, no desktop campaigns.
- It´s only for Classic Push traffic, NO InPage Push
In the CSV you have 5 columns that should be self-explaining but let´s have a look at it anyway 
| Zone |
Clicks |
Leads |
Conversion Rate |
ROI |
The conversion rate is from incoming traffic to offer,
not from outgoing traffic to offer.
I have sorted the zones by number of conversions from highest to lowest but of course you can sort it any way you want.
And
you even should play around a bit with the sorting because it can make a difference depending on what you aim for.
For example if you want to use the list for cheaper testing you could sort it descending by ROI and then only collect the zones that showed the best performance there.
Of course there´s no guarantee that the zones show the same performance on your campaigns but a high average ROI is at least a good sign that the zones are worth it
When you´re not looking for the highest ROI but you rather want to test faster you could sort the list descending by Conversion Rate.
That way you can easily grab the best converting zones to get results faster.
If you want maximum volume you can sort the list by Clicks and of course you could also combine the different sorting options.
Another advantage of such a list is that you (often) don´t necessarily need to target only high activity in test stage if you want to get good results.
The zones have proven already that they converted at least 10 times with positive total ROI and when a zone shows good performance at one activity level it often also shows good performance on the other activity levels.
Here you can see it pretty good:
High activity generated by far most of the conversions but it also had most volume.
On the CVR we can also see that High activity is higher quality than Low activity, 3.23% CVR vs 1.53% CVR.
Nonetheless the pure performance by ROI is almost as high on on Low activity targeting as on High activity targeting.
This means you could for example target High + Medium + Low activity for much more volume and then you could bid lower and still receive enough volume from good converting zones.
That way you can also safe some money during the test stage or receive better results on your actual spend.
Another way how to use the list could be to take only zones that have 100+ or so conversions and then bid higher to get more traffic from zones that have proven to convert over and over again.
You see, there are many ways how to use the list so that it´s hopefully helpful for many of you.
Just play a bit with it and use some common sense to find the best ways to use the whitelist.
Don´t expect wonders because such list is only one element in your campaign and without a good offer the list won´t help at all but it´s a great starting point to have a proven and big WL that works for many different campaigns.
Have fun
05-24-2022 08:56 PM
#2
jaybot (Veteran Member)
Please delete sir.
This is too much generosity!
05-24-2022 09:26 PM
#3
matuloo (Legendary Moderator)
Oh wow, to say that this is a generous share is an understatement of colossal proportions! 
I'm impressed Sebastian!
05-24-2022 09:40 PM
#4
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
jaybot
Please delete sir.
This is too much generosity!
Be happy that
Binom can´t show data from more campaigns, then the list would be even much bigger

Originally Posted by
matuloo
Oh wow, to say that this is a generous share is an understatement of colossal proportions!
I'm impressed Sebastian!
Thanks for the kind words man
To share the list won´t hurt me and such things can help others who don´t have stats from winning campaigns yet much more than me.
05-25-2022 09:12 AM
#5
larsometer (Senior Member)
Wow twinaxe did it again. He opened his treasure chest and put the golden coins in a zip file tho it isn't xmas yet (referring to this gift).
The list can´t do wonders and you still need a good offer for a good campaign but it can still help alot to have a good basic list for testing and in best case also for scaling.
I have to object, slightly.

The list can do wonders in several regards:
1. it reduces uncertainty
Sometimes you don't know what's the problem when you start with push. With a well tested WL you know that you get good traffic (or at least the best propeller has). That alone takes away a lot of stress.
2. saving costs
Even if offer is not good, with a good WL you find out way quicker / at lower spend and thus can test more.
3. saving time
To build a WL like this us average peasants would need several years. So getting such a list without any sweat is already a wonder.
I have compared with my data and have found all my top zones in your list. Only difference is that your list is way longer which means that there is way more to explore for me and probably for many others.
05-25-2022 02:21 PM
#6
approachx (Member)
Thank you for sharing your treasure twinaxe!
It will help to lot of affiliates to save lot of efforts, time and money.
05-25-2022 03:39 PM
#7
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
Sometimes you don't know what's the problem when you start with push. With a well tested WL you know that you get good traffic (or at least the best propeller has). That alone takes away a lot of stress.
I 100% agree, a good and solid WL already eliminates 1 important variable from the calculation - The possibility that you only receive traffic from bad placements.
Even if offer is not good, with a good WL you find out way quicker / at lower spend and thus can test more.
True
To build a WL like this us average peasants would need several years. So getting such a list without any sweat is already a wonder.
Seriously man, the WL could even be much bigger but because of the limitations on how many campaigns stats my tracker can show I just couldn´t add all campaigns that I wanted to so I tried to to find a good mix of different geos, verticals and activity levels so that there´s something in it for everyone
It will help to lot of affiliates to save lot of efforts, time and money.
I hope so
05-25-2022 04:20 PM
#8
larsometer (Senior Member)
Seriously man, the WL could even be much bigger but because of the limitations on how many campaigns stats my tracker can show I just couldn´t add all campaigns that I wanted to so I tried to to find a good mix of different geos, verticals and activity levels so that there´s something in it for everyone
Luckily
Binom has a reporting API and Python has Pandas/Numpy + connection to MongoDB
Guess that's for xmas then
05-25-2022 04:32 PM
#9
affpayinggao (Veteran Member)
Super generous share!!
Thank you so much @twinaxe
05-25-2022 04:58 PM
#10
vortex (Senior Moderator)
I don't know ANY other affiliates that would share their whitelist!
Hat's off to you Sir @twinaxe!
Amy
05-25-2022 06:05 PM
#11
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
larsometer
Luckily
Binom has a reporting API and Python has Pandas/Numpy + connection to MongoDB
Guess that's for xmas then

We´ll see

Originally Posted by
affpayinggao
Super generous share!!
Thank you so much @
twinaxe
Glad that you like it.

Originally Posted by
vortex
I don't know ANY other affiliates that would share their whitelist!
Hat's off to you Sir @
twinaxe!
Wow, finally I am a Sir
Wait for the next share
05-25-2022 06:20 PM
#12
vortex (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
Wow, finally I am a Sir
Wait for the next share

Interesting you would say that...
I never really thought about rankings and forms of address - but if we were to match you to a ranking that will accurately represent your contributions to the forum, it would be closer to "Count", or "Duke", or "Archduke".
Or even "Your Majesty".
Eager to see that next share!!
Amy
Reference:
http://foreven.com/libdat/libdat/n/NobleRanks.htm
05-25-2022 06:59 PM
#13
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
but if we were to match you to a ranking that will accurately represent your contributions to the forum, it would be closer to "Count", or "Duke", or "Archduke".
Or even "Your Majesty".
You will laugh, my firstname means "the venerable one" and my last name comes from Old Germanic language and means "the glorious one"/"the sovereign"
05-25-2022 07:17 PM
#14
quintyfresh (Senior Member)
I keep warning you guys he's from skynet. 
To me you're T-Win1000. Assimilates data like a machine, makes beep boop noises and produces money.
Hey thanks a lot for this whitelist. It takes a lot of effort to produce something like this as well as copious volumes of money. Very kind of you to share it. I ran a small SOI campaign on it and its performing 100% ROI. Very small testing but already showing heavy signs of life. Yeehaw. Always coming through with solid information and help. Never fails. Eerily similar to a machine gaining the trust of the humans.
05-25-2022 07:24 PM
#15
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
@quintyfresh Thanks for the feedback.
Great to hear that it works for you.
You deserve some winning campaigns 
05-25-2022 09:10 PM
#16
shishev (Moderator)
Top newsletter spot acquired instantly, in-sane.
This is making me want to run push traffic again.
07-14-2022 02:43 AM
#17
speedygonz (Junior Member)
Thank you so much for your sharing @twinaxe. It truly helps me in testing and reducing my costs.
I am a newbie on my first month with STM but I have been trying to figure out AM on my own and get it to work for me for well over 6 months now. But your posts and shares constantly reaffirm my decision to sign up to STM knowing that I now have access to the information to build a solid business in AM. Thanks so much!
07-14-2022 11:05 AM
#18
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
speedygonz
Thank you so much for your sharing @
twinaxe. It truly helps me in testing and reducing my costs.
I am a newbie on my first month with STM but I have been trying to figure out AM on my own and get it to work for me for well over 6 months now. But your posts and shares constantly reaffirm my decision to sign up to STM knowing that I now have access to the information to build a solid business in AM. Thanks so much!
Thank you very much
Such feedback shows that all the work and effort is worth it.
Btw, the next guide is just around the corner
07-14-2022 04:20 PM
#19
affpayinggao (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
Btw, the next guide is just around the corner

Can't wait for it
07-15-2022 01:54 AM
#20
speedygonz (Junior Member)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
Btw, the next guide is just around the corner

Awesome!
07-15-2022 04:47 AM
#21
quintyfresh (Senior Member)
Btw, the next guide is just around the corner
Skynet firing on all cylinders as usual. Twinaxe WL works good. Always test it next to successful campaigns and you will generally find it works also. At least in my case it seems.
Always looking forward to your new stuff Twinaxe.
08-14-2022 11:35 AM
#22
dienmykieugro (Member)
Amazing thread!!!! @twinaxe I'm a newbie and following 40-day tutorial, generally speaking,I cost 10x payout but conversion is bad (almost 2 conversions), really amazing finding this thread, and I want to have a try, but I can't find the correct place to add zone IDs...Costumer service told me I can't add them when I create campaigns, and I'll need to collect them based on the results of my particular campaigns.
Is this correct?
I feel that there is something strange....
How could I use these zone IDs based on my campaigns? I really don't know where I could add them after I choose target geo?
I'm really newbie and try my best to learn and apply, hoping this question doesn't seem stupid...
Sincerely
Lynn
08-14-2022 04:21 PM
#23
larsometer (Senior Member)
I want to have a try, but I can't find the correct place to add zone IDs.
Seriously....?
Why not just add the zones where it says "Zone...." in propeller?
Costumer service told me I can't add them when I create campaigns
Would love to see the screenshot including the question you have asked to propeller support.
Nothing is impossible.... but it really makes me wonder how support could haven given you such an answer to a very basic question.
08-15-2022 03:24 AM
#24
dienmykieugro (Member)

Originally Posted by
larsometer
Seriously....?
Why not just add the zones where it says "Zone...." in propeller?
Would love to see the screenshot including the question you have asked to propeller support.
Nothing is impossible.... but it really makes me wonder how support could haven given you such an answer to a very basic question.
I'm confused about the answer too, I think it could be done easily, especially I review all reply here, but emmmmmmm....
This is the screenshoot, I'm not sure if there is any error about my question, so she gave me an answer like this:
https://privatebin.support-tools.com...5uP209IQ0iNAg=
08-15-2022 07:47 AM
#25
larsometer (Senior Member)
Propeller support gave a correct answer to your question. They assumed that you want a whitelist from them (see their last statement).
If you had asked: "I have a whitelist, how can I use it?" their answer would have been different.
Also... you don't need to know which zones "belong" to your target geo. You only pay for the ones that get traffic.
Last but not least...
It might be good to have at least a very basic understanding of how things work before you run any paid traffic.
Judging from all your previous questions it seems like you want to take a shortcut where there is non.
08-15-2022 01:59 PM
#26
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
@dienmykieugro You asked the support what you should do to confirm what zones belong to your target geo.
Let me quote from my opening post:
The WL is a
global list that´s built from campaigns in
13 different geos and 5 different verticals.
That means that you can use the zones from the list for many different geos, they are not for one geo only.
How could I use these zone IDs based on my campaigns? I really don't know where I could add them after I choose target geo?
You add them here:
08-16-2022 02:36 AM
#27
dienmykieugro (Member)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
@
dienmykieugro You asked the support what you should do to confirm what zones belong to your target geo.
Let me quote from my opening post:
That means that you can use the zones from the list for many different geos, they are not for one geo only.
You add them here:

Suddenly it all makes sense,thanks for your explaination, It's really helpful for me.
Could I ask a question about my campaign here?
I'm following 40-day tutorial,I build a sms campaign( direct-link),cost$8.304, 3 conversions ( revenue is $1.05), I want to optimize this offer,but I don't know if it's a potential offer,or need I give up it and test another?
I'm really newbie and not sure how to adjudge and if it's deserve to continue.....
Thanks for your patience.
08-16-2022 03:21 PM
#28
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
Suddenly it all makes sense,thanks for your explaination, It's really helpful for me.
Glad when it helped
Could I ask a question about my campaign here?
I'm following 40-day tutorial,I build a sms campaign( direct-link),cost$8.304, 3 conversions ( revenue is $1.05), I want to optimize this offer,but I don't know if it's a potential offer,or need I give up it and test another?
Why don´t you start a follow along?
That way we can give you direct help for your campaigns and you have all your questions about your campaigns in one place
About your campaign, it´s hard to give a good answer without more information.
I guess you´re running pop traffic and it seems you tested only one offer.
I recommend to test more offers anyway, apart from that it´s hard to tell more without guesswork.
Would be great if could make a follow along and post more details there, stats and screenshots and such stuff and then we can check your campaigns together.
08-16-2022 04:23 PM
#29
dienmykieugro (Member)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
Glad when it helped
Why don´t you start a follow along?
That way we can give you direct help for your campaigns and you have all your questions about your campaigns in one place
About your campaign, it´s hard to give a good answer without more information.
I guess you´re running pop traffic and it seems you tested only one offer.
I recommend to test more offers anyway, apart from that it´s hard to tell more without guesswork.
Would be great if could make a follow along and post more details there, stats and screenshots and such stuff and then we can check your campaigns together.
Wow, thank you, I will have a try~
Actually I don't start follow along is just because I don't know what it is and how to do this thing....
Thanks for your opinion, I would start it immediately~~~~
08-16-2022 05:29 PM
#30
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
Actually I don't start follow along is just because I don't know what it is and how to do this thing....
A follow along is a thread where you post about your campaigns so that we can give you direct help and support for your campaigns.
You can post about the general progress or about problems with your campaigns.
In case that there are any issues we know your campaigns already and can give better help than just from a single question or so.
The more details you post the better we can help.
For pop traffic you can post your follow along
HERE
08-17-2022 09:59 AM
#31
dienmykieugro (Member)

Originally Posted by
twinaxe
A follow along is a thread where you post about your campaigns so that we can give you direct help and support for your campaigns.
You can post about the general progress or about problems with your campaigns.
In case that there are any issues we know your campaigns already and can give better help than just from a single question or so.
The more details you post the better we can help.
For pop traffic you can post your follow along
HERE
Very clearly, thanks a lot for your explanation @
twinaxe
I wrote the thread about my campaign,this is the title ( I don't know how to quote it here...): Learning 40-day tutorial, but my conversion data is really bad.....
Please help me, I really have no idea about next step...
Great thanks for you~
08-17-2022 12:45 PM
#32
twinaxe (Senior Moderator)
Please help me, I really have no idea about next step...
That´s what we´re here for.
Let´s go through it together step by step
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