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Day 9: b)Verifying Tracking Etc. (42)

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ACTION & EXPLANATION

This will be a short lesson. The aim is to verify that all our tracking links are working correctly.

In the previous lesson, we've set up our first campaign on PropellerAds. Then we need to wait for the campaign to be approved by reviewers. This can take anywhere from a couple of minutes to a few hours.

I would urge you to check every 15 minutes to half an hour (if possible) to see whether the campaign has been approved and you've started receiving traffic. This is how you know if your campaign is approved:

Log into PropellerAds > click on "Statistics" in the left menu > find your campaign > look at the "St" column. If you see "working" then it means your campaign has been approved and that traffic is flowing (or is about to):



When you see this, you're ready to proceed to the rest of this lesson.



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Verify Traffic is Going to the Right Offer(s)

First, we need to verify that the traffic is going to the intended offers! You'd be surprised at how many new affiliates (and even some veteran affiliates occasionally) would mess up tracking - and have all the traffic end up in lala land.

You're not required to do this verification for every single campaign you run, but doing this before you're 100% confident in your ability to set up tracking correctly can save you money and grief.

There are two ways to perform this verification.


1)Check Affiliate Network Dashboard Stats

-Log into Haka > "Reports" in the left side menu > "SMS Stats".



(Note: The type of offers we're running is called "Click2SMS". Therefore stats for this offer type would be listed under "SMS Stats".)

-Define a date range to include the days you've been running traffic (a bigger date range than necessary is OK). Make sure all the data headings are selected (Click, Impression, Leads, Revenue) and click "Search".



-You should see one or more entries in the "Impressions" column.



This is the number of times the Haka offers have been viewed by visitors from your PropellerAds campaign. And this means the traffic is reaching the actual Haka offers.

Haka's reporting is actually pretty primitive - it doesn't show you how much traffic was received by each individual offer like most other affiliate networks do. For other networks, you should verify that ALL of the offers you're sending traffic to, are actually receiving the traffic, i.e. they should all be showing up on the affiliate network dashboard with corresponding number of impressions/clicks.

Note that by checking Haka's dashboard stats in this way, we'd only be verifying that SOME of the traffic has made its way to one or more Haka offers. Meaning, we could have set up one of more of the Haka offers incorrectly, but as long as we've set up at least one of the offers correctly in the tracker, we'd still see a number in the "Impressions" column.

To be safe, do the following checks:

a)Go to the PropellerAds dashboard ("Dashboard" from left menu), specify the appropriate date range, select the "Campaign" tab and look at the number of impressions your campaign has received. Compare this to the number of impressions logged in Haka. The number from PropellerAds will likely be higher than the one from Haka due to clickloss (we'll cover that topic later), but if Haka's number is 70% of PropellerAds' number or higher, then all is probably well.

b)Remember how you added the Haka offers to your tracker? Go back into the offer settings in the tracker to check the offer link for ALL the Haka offers, to ensure you've copied and pasted the affiliate links from Haka correctly, AND appended the correct tracking tokens to each. You already verified that Haka has been receiving impressions, so you know that at least one of the tracker offer links was set up correctly. So just make sure you haven't set up one or more offer links incorrectly (e.g. by forgetting to append the tracking tokens like you did for the other offers).


2)Manual Verification of Tracker Campaign Link:

Here is yet another check you can do. Actually, you can perform this check even BEFORE actually running traffic - you can do this as soon as you've created a campaign in your tracker.

And since Haka doesn't tell you which much traffic each offer is receiving, this manual verification method is the only way to tell whether traffic is being directed to all the offers you're rotating in the campaign.

The check is simple: Just take your tracker campaign url, load it up in your phone's browser, and repeat maybe 3 times as many times as the number of Haka offers you're testing in the campaign. So if you're testing 7 Haka offers, then load the campaign url 21 times to make sure you're seeing each offer at least once or twice.

Why check in a phone browser and not on desktop? Because these Haka offers only allow mobile traffic. When checking offers manually in this manner, you need to be mindful of what type of traffic the offer will accept. We're fortunate that these Haka offers accept world-wide traffic. Most offers only accept traffic from a certain geo, in which case we would need to install a VPN (I use HMA and this thread contains more recommendations from members) and use it to change our IP to "fool" the affiliate network into thinking we're surfing from the allowed target geo, so that we'd be allowed to access the offer page. Otherwise, most affiliate networks have what's called "geo-redirection", which is a feature of their system that will automatically identify if a visitor is not accepted by the offer and redirect them to another offer - one that DOES accept the visitor (their geo, device, browser, mobile carrier etc.)

Another quick note about manually testing either the campaign url or the offer link to access an offer page: For offers that only accept carrier traffic and NOT wifi traffic, even by using a VPN you may not be able to access the offer - you may get redirected by the network's geo-redirection function. This is because VPNs typically use wifi IPs, not mobile carrier IPs. To mask yourself with mobile carrier IPs, you would need to use a service like Adplexity Carrier. Or, you could pay someone on Fiverr who actually lives in that country AND has a data plan with the mobile carrier to test the link for you and send you screenshots of the offer page. But I wouldn't go either of these routes unless I have a really profitable campaign on my hands, and I absolutely need to see what the offer page looks like so I could create customized landing pages for it or something.

Another good check you can do: Thanks to @jeremie who figured this out - Haka has a postback testing tool in their postback section that you can use to verify all the tracking links are working correctly (including your offer and postback links). Please follow the instructions in this post:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post407120



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Verify Your Tracker Conversion Postback Was Set Up Correctly

Above, we went to Haka to check their stats. Go back to those stats to check the "Revenue" and "Leads" columns to see whether you've made at least one conversion.

At the time you're reading this, your campaign may or may not have made it's first conversion. If it hasn't, then just keep checking Haka stats periodically until you do see a conversion, and then do the check described below.

Once you do see at least one conversion, check your tracker stats to confirm that you're seeing the same number of conversion(s) show up there too (in the column "Conversions" or "Leads" or "CONV" depending on the tracker).

If so, it means your postback url was set up correctly. Congratulations!

But if you're seeing at least one conversion in the Haka dashboard stats, and no conversions in the tracker, it means you've set up the postback incorrectly - either your postback url at the aff network is wrong, or you've appended the wrong tokens to the end of your offer link before adding it to the tracker.

If you're seeing conversions in BOTH the Haka stats AND the tracker, but the numbers are different, then there's either a delay in the aff network posting back to the tracker, or there are other issues at the aff network. Wait an hour for the update to catch up. If the problem persists, checking with your AM may be a good idea.



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Verify Your PropellerAds Conversion Postback Was Set Up Correctly

Only do this check if you see at least one conversion in the Haka dashboard, AND the conversions are also showing up in your tracker - because the tracker can only post conversions back to the traffic source AFTER the affiliate network posts conversions to the tracker successfully.

And when you see conversions appear both in Haka and in your tracker, log into PropellerAds > go to Dashboard from the left menu > specify an appropriate date range and click "Set" > select the "Campaign" tab > look at the "Conversions" column. If you see the same number of conversions there, then your PropellerAds postback was set up correctly as well. Again, congratulations!

But if you're seeing at least one conversion in the Haka dashboard stats, and no conversions at PropellerAds, it means you've set up the postback incorrectly at the tracker.

If you're seeing conversions in BOTH tracker stats AND PropellerAds' stats, but the numbers are different, then there may be issues with your tracker. Trackers typically post conversions to traffic networks pretty quickly, but wait 15 minutes just in case. If the issue persists, check with tracker support.



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Start a Campaign Journal

It's important to develop good habits early on - and one of the best habits you can have, is to keep a Campaign Journal.

I must be one of the laziest people, so I don't like doing anything that's not absolutely necessary, but I keep campaign journals. Why? Because when I'm running lots of campaigns, after a few days I wouldn't remember when I made which changes to which campaign.

As a result, I would repeat certain tasks several times or forget to do others. You probably have a much better memory than I do, but trust me, once you have more than a few camps running at the same time, it WILL get confusing - and frustrating to keep track of everything in your head.

Here is an example of a campaign journal spreadsheet you can download. Feel free to edit it to suit your needs:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tnye3khi7a...rnal.xlsx?dl=0



You can start one of these files per month, and start one tab per traffic source.

What you can do is start a row for each campaign you create, then insert a new column to the right of the "Campaign name" column for every day you check your stats. If you check and optimize your campaign multiple times a day, you can either create multiple columns for the day and include the time of day in the column heading along with the date, or just write several entries within the same cell, for example:

Start a campaign journal RIGHT NOW, and enter the name of your first campaign in there.



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That's all for now! In the next couple of days, we'll go into detail all the campaign options on PropellerAds for pop traffic, as well as learn the basics of campaign optimization. Exciting and practical stuff!



Amy

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Dear thanks the post
I have question I followed all the steps and i don't have any impressions any explanation for that



also in the propellerads the result sounds strange

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Hello,

Welcome to STM.

You need to give us a bit more explanation about your campaign (what Traffic Source, Affiliate Network... do you use a landing page)...
Try to describe more, because with just these small screenshots, it is hard to say.

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Thanks for reply, yes sir actually i am following this tutorial , funnelflex and Haka

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Can you please show me screenshots of the following:

1)Affiliate network settings in Funnelflux for Haka

2)Traffic source settings in Funnelflux for PropellerAds or PopAds - whichever traffic source you're running traffic from

3)Your Funnelflux campaign url

There are other things we can look at, but let's look at these first before I make an exhaustive list.



Amy

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Hi STM i think I massed uo smth with settings becouse I am writting because after i cheked twie everything it looks all normal and corectly but I cant see any impressions on Haka and also in Zeydoo
Please tell what information to provide You to check or what screens to send to find out the problem

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- What is your traffic source? Send a screenshot of the campaign stats in the traffic source.
- Are you using a tracker? If so, send a screenshot of the campaign stats.

Also, English may not be your native language, but try to read your message before posting and correct the spelling mistakes. You can write it in MS Word and use the autocorrect function.

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No need to worry. We will fix this together.

Please provide the information @jeremie is asking for.

We need to know which tracker you're using, and which traffic source.

Then we'll know what questions to ask you, and what screenshots we need to see.



Amy

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Ok so


1.Affiliate Network: Haka
2. Traffic PropellerAds
3. Tracker: FunnelFlux Pro

And sorry for the bad spelling will not happen again @jeremie

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Thank you! I forgot to ask last time: Are you not seeing impressions in the tracker, or when you're logged onto Haka, or both?



Amy

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Amy both because in Haka ( there is no impression value in stats I think they disable it ) I have one-click but I made it myself just clicking a link from Haka

Also, I try to do some offers from Zeydoo and also the same problem no impression in the tracker and no impression in Zeydoo

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Thank you for your reply!

This means the tracker hasn't been sending visitors to the offer.

Please check/provide the following:


1)In Funnelflux, go to Offer Sources -> edit settings for Haka -> show me screenshots of the screens: "General Settings", "Configure Data Passing", and "Configure Tracking Tokens".




2)Still in Funnelflux, go to Offers -> edit settings for the Haka offer you're promoting (or one of the offers if you're promoting several) -> show me screenshots of the screens: "General Settings", "Configure Data Passing", and "Conversion Tracking".




3)Still in Funnelflux, go to Traffic Sources -> edit settings for PropellerAds -> show me screenshots of the screens: "General Settings", "Tracking Fields", and "Conversion Tracking".




4)Still in Funnelflux, go to Funnels -> find the funnel for your campaign -> Open in Funnel Editor -> show me a screenshot of your funnel diagram.





(Of course your screenshots won't look like mine above - just showing an example.)


5)On your funnel diagram, left click on the "Traffic" element and select "Send Traffic Here".




6)In the next screen, for "Traffic Source" specify "PropellerAds". Then show me the resulting screenshot.




7)Go to your campaign inside the PropellerAds' dashboard, find your campaign, go into "Edit Campaign", please copy the "Target url" and paste it into your post to show me.






8)Still in Funnelflux, go to "Settings" -> you should be on the "System Settings" tab. Please show me a screenshot.


9)Log into Haka's dashboard, go to "Offers" -> find the offer you're promoting (or one of them if you're promoting a few) -> click on "Track" -> please copy the url and paste into your post to show me.




10)Still in Haka, go to "Postback" and either screenshot or copy the "Postback url" to show me.





Thanks!



Amy

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Now in Haka > SMS Stats no "Impressions"
https://yadi.sk/i/x2ZzMxNgaea8CA

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There can be delays. How long after you started running traffic did you check the stats? It can take a while.

Also: When you put your campaign url into the browser, can you see the offer?



Amy

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I'm running Mobipium 1 click offers on PropellerAds, using funnelflux as my tracker.

My stats across Mobipium, PropellerAds, and FunnelFlux vary significantly (i understand clickloss).

Impressions on Propeller Ads: 39,274
Impressions on Mobipium: 12,672
Impressions on FunnelFlux: 15,652

I've checked my traffic and affiliate network postback url's. Also my traffic campaign url from Funnel Flux on PropellerAds. I've attached several screenshots showing this. Also contacted my AM on Mobipium. What is going on?

Appreciate all your help. Thanks!

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Your clickloss is indeed very high.

Seems like you are running traffic in India. In this geo it is not uncommon to have clickloss above average (which is like 20%).

Sometimes the loss mainly comes from a few zones.

You can send your zone data (from tracker) to propeller support and ask them about the clickloss.

In case you also have this high clickloss for smaller t2 geos it would make sense to also contact funnel flux. But I rather doubt that there is any problem on the tracker side. When clicks arrive at tracker and AM network your setup should be correct.

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Agree with @larsometer - clickloss rate is high indeed!

Funnelflux is a solid tracker - I think we can rule out the tracker itself as a cause.

However: How the tracker is set up - hosting and domain - can possibly affect redirection speed.

Let's do an exercise:

1)Check the redirection speed of the affiliate link itself.

2)Check the redirection speed of the tracker link (that direct links to the offer).

3)PM me your affiliate link - the one you put into your tracker. I'll do the same redirection speed checks and we can compare.

Also: Where is your server located? The further away your server is from the target geo, the slower the redirect can stand to be.



Amy

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Sent you a PM with my links

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Apologies for the delay! PM received with thanks!

So the offer is a DCB offer, so I can't find out how long it would take for the visitor to see the offer.


TRACKER:

In terms of tracker redirect speed: I used webpagetest.org on your funnelflux campaign link to get an idea (it's not the most accurate but good for an estimate) - and the redirect speed is less than 0.6s:



I tested my own funnelflux campaign link and the speed was comparable.

I forgot to ask you if your funnelflux was the self-hosted version or the cloud version, but I guess I don't need to ask anymore - because our speeds are similar and I'm subscribed to the cloud version. The cloud version basically rules out redirection speed being the issue unless you've set up your tracker domain incorrectly (which doesn't seem to be the case) - because funnelflux has nodes all over the world and not just a single server location.


OFFER:

I also ran webpagetest on the offer itself and got 0.8s as the redirect speed. This doesn't seem excessive compared to other offers if I remember correctly.

What we DON'T know if how quickly the offer page itself will load, because we're not testing from mobile carriers that are accepted by the 1-click offer. So there IS a possibility that the offer may not be loading quickly enough. Not placing blame on anything - just pointing out that it's one of the unknowns.


TRAFFIC:

The second unknown is the traffic platform itself: How quickly it's showing your ad to visitors. I don't know how we would test that, or if it would even be possible. So this would be another unknown.


At this time I don't really have any suggestions on how to optimize this clickloss, but if I were you, I would try to run another offer for India, perhaps from another network, just to compare. I would also look at previous campaigns run using the same tracker for the same traffic network, in the same or different geos, just to see if there's a pattern.



Below are a couple of questions you asked in your PM - hope you don't mind my posting them here (there's no sensitive info):


Page speed includes the loading speed of the actual code on the page - html etc. Redirect speed is DNS + Connect + SSL speeds. You can find out more by googling - tech is my weak area.

Basically the aim is for us affiliates to reduce the total speed - redirect + loading - so that the visitor will see the offer as quickly as possible. In your case you're direct-linking which excludes the landing loading speed, and you can't really do anything about the offer page load speed (since you can't change the content of the offer page), and you're using the cloud version of funnelflux (I'm assuming) so can't optimize the tracker redirect speed any further. So I'd say your options are limited here.


Are you referring to the affiliate link vs. the tracker campaign link? Or the affiliate link without tracker parameters vs. WITH tracker parameters?


@jeremie @twinaxe You guys know more in the tech area - would any of you have further suggestions? TIA!

@zeno Perhaps you'd have further insight regarding how to optimize tracker speed?





Amy

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I will add this...

How fast was the traffic? Was it over a full day? Over an hour? Is your smart bid in Propeller the MAX system bid (e.g. is the system bidding for you)?

I just experienced this with @larsometer helping me figure out what was wrong. If this traffic all ran in a small window with high bid it could be your server dropping the connections. In Binom there is an error log generated to show this, I am not sure about FunnelFlux. If it is self hosted there probably is an error log and if you look at that it will tell you if users are getting dropped. Only time I experienced click loss at this level when all of my tracking was working perfectly by me following through it myself was server overload.

In that case my click loss was 50%+. 20%+ is (sadly) relatively normal. Beyond that usually means something is messed up.

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The biggest difference is between Traffic Source and tracker, so you can:
1. Ventilate your clicks by traffic source placements to see if one has a higher clickloss than the rest
2. Try Push traffic with the same funnel (not to be profitable, just spend $10, and compare your clickloss). If is is back to normal, then problem is your Popunder Source. If the clickloss rate is still that high, then your problem is on the tracker.

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At a glance, it looked like >50% click loss.

The only common cause of this is an incorrect Cloudflare setup, where you in fact have two records for the domain and Cloudflare is doing 50/50 load balancing... essentially sending half your traffic to a black hole.

I would check your DNS config and confirm you have only a single A-record for the root domain, pointing to the IP we give. I suspect you may have two A-records there (one from when you imported the domain or from previous settings).

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@zeno Thank you! I did have two A records. Now that one of them is deleted will be testing to confirm. @quintyfresh Traffic was over a day and half. I suspect wrong DNS config to be the root issue here.

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@vortex Thanks for clarifying. My funnelflux is indeed cloud as you figured.

I was referring to affiliate link vs. the tracker campaign link. This makes sense today though the tracker campaign link is what funnelflux generates from the funnel editor vs the affiliate link that is available on the affiliate network.

@vortex How were you able to run a redirect speed test on the offer itself and get 0.8? Are you using the first link that I sent you PM ? I get a 404 error and 0 sec speed . I am running the test on the affiliate link itself which can be only accessed only on mobile which is why i believe its giving me a 404.

I was able to run a redirect speed for the tracker campaign link and got similar to your screenshot.

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Correct!

To clarify further: Your affiliate link only needs to redirect to the final offer link.

Whereas the tracker link needs to go through your tracker domain, then your tracker redirects to the affiliate link, which THEN redirects to the final offer link.


You're right, we can't know the loading speed of the final offer, because it's a DCB offer and we're not testing using a carrier connection to an accepted carrier.

However, we can still see the redirect speed - the dns+connect+ssl part of the affiliate link.

Apparently some tools work and some don't. It worked for me on webpagetest.org. Perhaps their emulator is for a device and geo that is semi-accepted by the offer - even if it means automatic geo-redirect was used.



Amy

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@aymann22

Okay glad you got it sorted.

@vortex

Today was a big day for you huh? You passed caurmen for thanks. A bittersweet accomplishment, sort of like beating an olympic record that has stood for 50 years. He would be proud though. I know this is small thread highjack but just wanted to point that out since I saw it coming for a while.

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The question is, @aymann22 WAS that the culprit? Did the clickloss improve after that fix?


Thank you so much for saying that @quintyfresh - that he would be proud. And coincidently I used that EXACT word "bittersweet" when I was talking with @cmdeal in Dubai on this same topic. You're a kindred spirit - thank you.

I was never big on thanks count, except to use it as a gauge on what types of content are appreciated so we'd know to produce more of the same. Hugh was and still continues to be a huge inspiration to me, and he's still providing guidance from where he is (if you believe that sort of thing). His posts are STILL getting thanks even now. If he was still on the forums, I wouldn't have been able to "catch up" in a million years.

Having said that: I'm going to look forwards and not backwards. Our mods team has solid plans to produce a lot of new content for the forums in the next few months. We'll make Hugh proud!



Amy

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@vortex

Much like you, I have a strange relationship with the cosmos. I don't have a religious belief per se, but I do think that energy never actually disappears. It just takes a new form and shape in ways we may not understand. The universe is too amazing, random and energy driven for people or things to simply fade off into nothing. I don't believe that happens, so I am with you on this. He's out there in the ether somewhere, damn proud of what has been accomplished here.

I was reading a story not long ago about a guy who found his dads playstation 1 in a closet where it had been for like 20 years. And in it was the game Gran Turismo (car racing). In this game you can do courses and the game will save your "ghost" so that you can race yourself to achieve better times. The guy discovered all of his deceased dads ghosts were still on the memory card, and he practiced for months to beat them (his dad was very good at the game before he died).

He said that on the hardest course in the game, he had FINALLY beat his dads time by about 2 seconds but stopped just before the finish line and let his dads car pass him to finish. He couldn't bring himself to beat the time because he didn't want his dads car to disappear (get overwritten by his new fastest lap). When I saw you coming up on caurmens count that was what I thought of and that's why I thought bittersweet. Anyway, you guys do a really good job around here and this place is in good hands. Sorry again for the thread highjack.

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Hello, I'm really confused, " if Haka's number is 70% of PropellerAds' number or higher, then all is probably well."
But my Haka's number is 15(click), PropellerAds' number is 432(impressions), isn't okay? If there is some problems in my campaign？

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I really have so many questions everyday....
Could I choose more than one geo to start my same campaign？I have started a campaign in one geo, but I can't get any conversion....
A little sad...

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I forgot to ask....in this tutorial，isn't there about setting up campaign on Popads？
I only find setting up campaign on PropellerAds.....
If I need start my own campaign which just operate by myself without the intuition of tutorial，I don't know how much money is proper to start a campaign....

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Open a Follow Along thread on STM and show the community exactly and detailed how you setup the campaign, including stats etc.

This way people can give proper feedback. Example: Follow Along: TikTok Made Me Do It
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52360

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Thank you, I'm often confused so that I can't express it correctly，I would try my best to improve...
I have seen there is the conversion on Haka, but I can't see it on Propeller or FunnelFux，I have tried to find the problem out and connected to the service of Propeller，it has took me whole afternoon，but really mass...Especially while talking about replacing token，I really don't know the real logic....

This is my target url： https://digtreasure8.com/fts/1guLQaPm0DNN-1gjAjJNElA9Y?campaign={campaignid}&external=${SUBI D}&zone={zoneid}
This is my postback： http://ad.propellerads.com/conversion.php?aid=3555035&pid=&tid=110866&visitor _id={trackingfield-visitor_id}&payout={flux_payout}
This is my S2S： http://ad.propellerads.com/conversion.php?aid=3555035&pid=&tid=110866&visitor _id={trackingfield-visitor_id}&payout={flux_payout}

I don't know what's wrong with them...Please help me....

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You're right - of course there is!

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...aign-on-PopAds


No worries - will get you sorted!

Your postback is wrong - it should be this:

http://ad.propellerads.com/conversio...866&visitor_id ={external}&payout={payout}

This is explained in Day 3-8 d): https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...s-(Funnelflux)

However, in order to see conversions in PropellerAds, you'll need to fix the postback from Haka to Funnelflux FIRST. Otherwise, Funnelflux would not have the conversion data to send to PropellerAds.

I've shown how to do this step-by-step: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...a-(Funnelflux)

Please let me know if you're stuck!



Amy

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Thank you Amy，I set it by following day 3-8：a），but I can't see conversion on Propeller either……
This is my original Global Postback URL on FunnelFux ：https://digtreasure8.com/pb/?hit=REP...CE&rev=REPLACE
This is replaced postback on Haka：https://digtreasure8.com/pb/?hit={keyword}&rev={payout}
This is my data on Haka：1 conversion

But there isn't conversion data on FunnelFux


Yesterday afternoon I found this problem, I contacted service of Propeller、FunnelFux，seems like useless，too difficult to deal with it，I'm a little disappointed because of my efficiency.......

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You had one conversion already when your postback was messed up. Of course you will never see that conversion (without a new trigger) in Funnelflux and thus also not in Propeller.

Your corrected postback will only work for NEW conversions (which can be triggered by a conversion test).

Do yourself a favor and study + FOLLOW each step of the 40 day tutorial in DETAIL. Then take pencil and paper and draw down how things are connected.

Once you have a basic understanding of how things work it will be way easier to express your problems. That would allow support to actually have a chance to understand and help you.

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Thanks for your explanation，very helpful
Actually every time after finishing a part of tutorial，I draw mind map to help myself understand the knowledge，this part I think mainly concentrate on the logic of replacing tokens （although I‘m surprised because of my mistake of postback，I have checked it many times，may be the fear of tokens made me ignorant），and there are different tokens on different platforms，really confused.....

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Amy，thanks for your reply，I corrected it and decided to start another campaign to get data
I want to learn more logic about replacing tokens，I searched on STM and Google，but I didn't get the whole logic of replacing tokens，if you’re convenient，could you tell me how to decide to replace a special token and how to make them on different platforms（network-tracker-traffic）synchronous？
Thanks a lot

Sincerely
Lynn

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Tracking is a complicated topic. The best explanation can be found right here in the tutorial:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...nding-Tracking

Please spend a day or so to read through the entire thread a few times.

If you still have questions then, please ask!



Amy

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Thank you! Can you also please show me the modified offer url you saved into Funnelflux - when you were adding the new offer to Funnelflux?

The process is this: When a user converts on your affiliate link, the conversion will show up in Haka's dashboard. Then Haka should automatically use the postback to post the conversion to Funnelflux. And THEN Funnelflux should automatically use the postback to post the conversion to PropellerAds.

So in order for you to see the conversion in PropellerAds, we need to fix BOTH postbacks.

Please don't spend more money on traffic until we fix this. I'll check back later today.



Amy

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Thank you Amy, sorry I saw your reply today
After getting new subdomain yesterday, my HAKA AM and I took a conversion test, the data is correct, everything seemed well
But today I started a new campaign, I got 2 conversions ( the data is same between HAKA and FunnelFux, but there is 1 conversion in Propeller), I'm thinking about if the same visit converted twice.....

Another strange thing is: I got the conversion data in FunnelFux at first, about 1 hour later, it came up in HAKA.......In theory, there is the conversion data in HAKA first, then FunnelFux，finally Propeller，really strange.....

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Ah OK! If you're seeing conversion data in all 3 places, it most likely means you've set up the postbacks correctly - because postbacks usually either work or don't. They usually don't just work sometimes.

In the first case, Propellerads probably just hadn't "caught up" yet, because FF hadn't sent that most-recent conversion to Propeller yet. If you check a few minutes after the campaign is paused, the data would probably be the same across both platforms.

In the second case - you're right - the order is strange - actually it's impossible. My guess: Although the conversion would be recorded in Haka's database immediately, they may not update your affiliate dashboard stats right away (e.g. they may have a cron job that runs every x minutes). But the postback was triggered before your dashboard stats were updated.

I wouldn't worry about these - as long as you're not seeing discrepancies consistently. If you do, then we'd need to dig deeper. But I haven't seen this happen as far as I remember.



Amy

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