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Pre Lander for Male Enhancement? (10)

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Hi Guys, i am trying new stuff with male enhancement.


I have only one "good lander" in my opinion and what the stats say, but i want to test some more...

The problem is, that i dont find anything good so far... i am using spytec free version at the moment because i am still running anstrex and i dont want to pay again for adplexity adult...

Does anyone have a good depository of presells for male enhancement?

Maybe someone interested in buying adplexity as a "shared account" to save some cost?


It is a cpa offer with a relatively high payout, so it has definitiv to be a solid presell...

Thanks so far for any tipps

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By "male enhancement" are you referring to penis enlargement? If so I ripped a few for you:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r7vjv9t4a9...nders.zip?dl=0

Let me know if you're looking for something else.



Amy

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Also: If you're up for testing something fun, here's an idea:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post416578



Amy

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Wow, thank you very much!!!

Sry i didnt recognize, that you wrote a reply here... awesome, thank you very much for the landers!


I have another question you may are experienced with:

I tried a proven Male Enhancement Offer 2 Weeks ago to run on Exoclick.

I used 3 different landers and i got 2 lucky sales in the beginning.


The "problem" was, at this time i did not setup my tracker, so i had no clue, where the sales came from. Even the reps on Exoclick and my Affiliate Network cant tell me....

So i tried everything i could with the rest of the initial 200 € Budget to get some more sales but i cant make it work....


Heres the real problem:

I do NOT know, how to target the right audience...

Should i Run Premium Traffic, Members Area Traffic or RON?

Should i use Keyword targeting? (But what keywords are typing men with little penises into a porn site!?)

The only thing i noticed because i ran video and banner ads was, that gay sites had an extremely high engagement rate on my video ads....

So in categorie of fetishes, should i run ads on gay sites, brunette girls (probably not, but idk), or some other categories?


I dont know how to target the right audience to attract the potential real byers for cheap...


May anybody can give me some tipps her how i should approach this thing....

Thanks so far


Best Regards,

Chris

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Oh please don't worry about it! Glad to be of help!

I haven't run adult in a loooong time. Going to tag @matuloo here as he's the adult expert. But for what it's worth, here's what I think, based on what I know:

-Regarding tracking: There's no two ways about it - forget about trying to "recover" data you never collected, and just be sure to apply tracking going forward and MAKE SURE IT WORKS before running actual traffic (ask your AM to fire a test conversion).

Regret never helps. Just look forwards instead of back, let go and move on.

-I'm going to be blunt and ask: How much experience do you have with running offers? And what is the payout on your offer? If you don't have a lot of experience, try to pick offers with lower payouts. What revenue did you make with those 3 sales? Was your total cost 200 EUR?

-As for targeting: For initial testing of offers and landers, I would try to target one or two big sites with quality traffic in the beginning. Back in the day it would be something like xhamster, but I don't know which sites would be good to use these days. Basically use a site or two that has traffic that isn't expensive and doesn't suck, to test and dial-in your best lander+offer and ad angles.

Then if I get profitable I would scale to RON, but that would require thousands of dollars or more to cut unprofitable sites, especially if running RON for the first time. This is assuming the campaign converts decent. I wouldn't take anything but the very best to RON.

As for categories - I don't remember which categories converted better than others. This is of course something your tracker would tell you (assuming you're tracking this variable) after you've collected enough conversions. Maybe other members can provide more advice on the targeting.

Fortunately though, PE/ME should have broad-enough appeal for testing on the general male audience, so it shouldn't be like if you don't target the best categories from the start your campaign will fail. The only tip I have is that once you know which audiences convert well, you can try to customize your ads (and even landers) to those audiences/categories to appeal to them more.

-Yeah keyword targeting doesn't make much sense to me either. I've had success with text ads though! (The two are completely not related - I just remembered.)

-Lastly: An offer is not "proven" until you've tested it and have found success yourself. AMs will of course recommend "proven offers" to us, but their other affiliates may not be running the same traffic as you - they may have access to traffic that isn't even available to you for example. It only takes one big affiliate to make an offer look very promising, and many AMs haven't run a single affiliate campaign in their life so they don't know the difference.

That's all I have! Again, some of the details may be outdated so please take with a grain of salt. Let's see if anyone else would chime in!



Amy


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Thanks for response,

i want to give you quick answers for your questions:

1. I am fairly new into affiliate marketing. I am into online marketing in general for roughly 4 years, so i have a basic understanding of conversion optimization, website building etc, but i never dived into am this hard....

2. The total revenue from 2 Sales was $160. Those came from my first 40€ in Adspend. Then i spended another 160€ and no more sales unfortunately.

Your recommendation is a good idea, maybe i should run this offer on one placement to test properly.... so if i spent basically for example 1,5 times payout i should see at least one conversion, right?

So the only way to test this offer is to reduce the sites significant to a little number an run only on these placements, right?

Your point with the price is a little contrary, isnt it? In my experience so far either is the traffic cheap or quality... both is really difficult to find or what experience do you have about this?

3. The offer was recommend from 2 other Affiliate networks as well and was almost on every network on #1 with the highest epc and i made instantly 2 sales, so i think at least its not a bad offer... but youre right of course, one big site with for example email marketing can make all these stats "wrong"....


What do you think about angle? What kind of angle do you think is here the most effecive? More a kind of pain point pressure like "your gf will leave you in long term, if you have a small penis" or more the "wow, its so amazing to fuck your girl with a huge dick" approach?

Maybe you have some other ideas i dont even think about yet...

thanks, Chris

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Thank you Chris for your answers!

-Your ROI isn't bad! But a payout of $80 is really high for a beginner. Think of it this way: In order to do ANY sort of testing (landers or offers split-testing to arrive at statistical significance; testing of ads / angles) and optimization (e.g. cutting publishers sites after 2x in payout spent without a conversion), you will need to collect enough conversions.

Having said that: This offer DOES have potential, and you're not bleeding out of your ass so far. So it wouldn't be a bad decision to test it some more.

But when choosing your next offers, it may be better to keep to lower-payout offers - at least initially, until you have the testing and optimization process down and can be more efficient to minimize budget.

-Yes I would recommend to choose 1-2 good quality sites for testing - of landing pages and ads / angles.

My point with the price and quality is not contradicting at all. There are tons of adult sites that have moderately-priced to expensive traffic that does not convert, or convert badly. And then there are sites that have high-quality traffic that charges really high prices, and the volume is usually not really there. I personally like to use both these types of sites for scaling.

For testing though, you need a site or two that is KNOWN to have 1)good volume (otherwise it would take forever to test anything), 2)decent quality (so you'd get conversions which is the whole point of testing), and 3)decent pricing (so you don't bleed too badly in the testing process, when weeding out landing pages and ads that don't convert the best; and/or dud offers).

When I was running adult a few years back, xhamster was my go to testing grounds. And then of course there are multiple ad placements within the site, and certain placements are better for testing than others. I really don't know which site and placements would be the best to use for testing today - @matuloo ...?

-As for angles: The post linked to above has a good discussion on that topic - https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-selling-point


Hope that helps!



Amy

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Thanks for the tag Amy.

The OP started several threads regarding this subject, I'm already replying in one of the other ones

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Ah fantastic! I'll go seek out those threads then...

UPDATE: For everyone's information - here's the "other" thread:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...le-enhancement



Amy

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I could have as well posted the link, righty? ) Thanks for fixing that

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