How to find a profitable offer as a newbie?? (37)
Hey Guys,
I need a little advice I think I am stuck. I am not able to find a profitable offer. You see I have read this forum for the past 2 months. I have completed the Vortex's 40 days tutorial and I read Twinaxe’s push tutorial. I have also completed many other case studies and follow along.
Initially, when I was reading the 40 days tutorial, I ran a campaign that was showing me results like -30% ROI on pop. Then I tried to optimize the campaign both ways. I tried WL as well as BL, but I couldn’t bring it to being profitable. Later since Push is the most widely used ad format nowadays for sweepstakes, I tried the same offer on push.
The offer showed me results like -50% ROI and then eventually died. And ever since I am trying to find an offer that can be profitable. But sadly I am not even able to find an offer that will show conversions. I have been mostly testing sweepstakes. I have tested Gift card and iPhone sweepstakes on the Geos like Singapore, Sweden, New Zealand & South Africa. I have been promoting offers from Mobidea, but I have access to Mobipium and Haka. I also tried Laon lead gen offer in Spain, but it didn’t work out either. And lastly, I have been using
Now, after all, I don’t understand a few things. From all my reading I understand what to do when you have a good or moderate campaign in your hands. I understand that even if you can make 3$/day you can slowly grow and survive. But what I don’t understand is what to do when you don’t have a profitable campaign.
What is the best way to test offers when you are on a budget? It is far easy to test several offers when you are earning XXX$/Day or XX$/Day. But when you don’t have a profitable offer in your hand what should be your strategy. Since even with the Testing amount you still have other charges like
Please let me what you think I am doing wrong and how can I better my strategy. All this while testing I have mostly given up on an offer after spending 30$ or so. But most of the offers I have tested won't give any conversion at all or will give a couple after spending $20+.
Most of the offer I have tested till now where single opt-in or Signup for submit. I have been using Push ad format on Propeller ads. One other thing I am still not clear is that I have been using Push format, with the Highest traffic available with close to or a little less than the suggested bid, not sure if that is the right strategy to test offers or not.
After reading all this please let me know what you guys think my plan of action should be.
Thanks is advance.
How many offers have you been testing in each geo? How many landers for each?
Can you show some stats?
Originally Posted by ranrev
Sweden, New Zealand - tier 1 geos - rather avoid those when starting
ZA - it became super competitive, I think @jaybot can tell you more about it since as far as I know he scaled one (?) of his ZA campaigns to dozen of traffic sources before this geo turned to shit. (source: his FA)
Originally Posted by ranrev
If you are using Propeller - do note that Broker/Propeller traffic converts differently depending on geos AND targeting. I started doing separate campaigns for that purpose, and well, got my first greeny thanks to that.
Originally Posted by ranrev
Don't aim for T1 geos yet if you can't find anything on lower tiers profitable - this is just money-bleeding.
Originally Posted by ranrev
Originally Posted by ranrev
You trade your XX/day for research which might lead you into XXX/day - this can work out and also can miserably fail.
The same goes with spending your budget - you trade your money to gather enough data to get XX/day.
Difference between those two is psychological, that's why starting AM is hard.
Our brains do not help us succeed, they help us to survive.
That's why in my opinion going into AM without a set budget that you are not afraid to lose is just asking for troubles.
If you have strict budget set you should try lower tier geos and PO lower than 1$.
Traffic is cheaper and getting enough data to determine if campaign is worth running can be also achieved with less inner resistance.
Main con in that approach is profit margin.
Originally Posted by ranrev
Originally Posted by ranrev
2. Getting to know your traffic source - ask yourself: what can be narrowed? would those improvements make my campaign profitable? (broker/propeller traffic example above)
3. Campaign journal - google sheets with list of your running campaigns with every change that you made to them (disabling zones, narrowing targeting, etc). It helps to get better grasp over your camps
Originally Posted by ranrev
test, test, test
@plutus has built up a very mature understating of this game very quickly, his post has everything you need to know
Originally Posted by plutus
You can still be quite profitable there. If you know what you're doing. Mobile content (pin submit) still pay $4-6 per conversion.
Unfortunately, I still have no clue what the fuck I'm doing.
So. I stick with easier geos. Like Madagascar
ZA traffic is just yuuuugely expensive for a newbie. Or even a veteran.
Not worth it unless you have a solid funnel and a ton of cash to burn on testing.
Hey @jeremie,
Now that you have asked this question and when I think about it, my answer would be not many. Mostly I was testing only 1 offer/Geo but in some scenarios I tested two but those also were add in a single link. I mean I was rotating them via my tracker. I mostly bundled same kind of sweeps like Gift Cards for 2 3 grocery stores or iPhone and Samsung sweeps in one link. But I might have allotted the same amount of testing money as I would spent on 1 offer.
Here is a screenshot of stats on my tracker. I have hidden my offer for a reason that I not aware of myself, but since everyone does it so have I.
Please let me know, what you think. Any advice is appreciated.
Hey @plutus,
I have reading a lot of your threads and comments, thank you for the response.
Seems like I have been using STM the wrong way from past 2 months. Should have asking Ques form day 1.
Originally Posted by plutus
If you are using Propeller - do note that Broker/Propeller traffic converts differently depending on geos AND targeting. I started doing separate campaigns for that purpose, and well, got my first greeny thanks to that.
When talking about the Propeller ads when you say Broker traffic do you say that I should give it a try too. Cuz I have just used the propeller traffic and never have ever touched the broker traffic yet. Also what do you think about the testing the offer I have been just using the highest type of traffic in propeller ads, with less then suggested bid. What do you suggest cuz there are so many variables to test in a new offer Like: Should I use HIGH/Medium/Low and should I test just on Wifi or Just on Lte. And Should I do day parting or not.
Any other recommendation for a newbie. Before I gather my courage again to apply on ClickDealer....
Difference between those two is psychological, that's why starting AM is hard.
Our brains do not help us succeed, they help us to survive.
That's why in my opinion going into AM without a set budget that you are not afraid to lose is just asking for troubles.
If you have strict budget set you should try lower tier geos and PO lower than 1$.
Traffic is cheaper and getting enough data to determine if campaign is worth running can be also achieved with less inner resistance.
Main con in that approach is profit margin.
Hmm, for Tier 3 Geos I will see what can do, will try to much more testing there. but for Tier 2 can you at least tell me from your opinion what I should stay away from. Cuz I know telling someone that this Geo will work is impossible.
Also for PO lower than 1$, what do you think my budget should be before I let it go. Considering I am using 2 simple LP's and 1 offer.
Btw here is Screenshot of my tracker let me know if you see something stupid.
Originally Posted by jaybot
You can still be quite profitable there. If you know what you're doing. Mobile content (pin submit) still pay $4-6 per conversion.
Unfortunately, I still have no clue what the fuck I'm doing.
So. I stick with easier geos. Like Madagascar
ZA traffic is just yuuuugely expensive for a newbie. Or even a veteran.
Not worth it unless you have a solid funnel and a ton of cash to burn on testing.
Big fan, thank you so much for your response.
Now since you said "one can make money in VA if they know what they are doing."
That answers my question, cuz I defiantly do not know what I am I doing.
But I still am having trouble choosing Geos from tier 3, cuz I really know very less about them.
Apart from India and Pakistan I do not have any clue for the rest of the Geos and there are so many of them.
Would you like to suggest me some kind of criteria from which I can filter them to get and better understanding.
What about the language and size or population of the country. Or you can just suggest the best once from your opinion.
Thanks...
Originally Posted by ranrev
Since you're only just starting out, I don't think you need to have in depth knowledge of the country that you're running your offers in. It's a "good to know" in the sense that it'll be good to customise your landers to the local slang but it's not essential if you're in the testing phase because ultimately, the goal is to test and see if the offer converts in the first place. Once you know an offer converts, then you can start thinking about optimising it further by tweaking the landers/ads to fit the local slang (best way to do this is to probably hire someone on fiverr who is native to the country to do the translations for you)
What you would want to know when you're doing your research is the languages used in that particular geo (for example, BE has two main languages being French and Dutch) so based on that, you know that you'll probably either have to adjust your language targeting in your campaigns or have two separate landers (one in French and one in Dutch) and set your campaign rules accordingly to divert the traffic based on the user's preferred language.
Another important item you'd want to research is the population of the country you're targeting and whether or not it's worth running there - no point spending your time and effort to run a campaign in a geo with small volume because you won't be able to scale and your campaign will probably be saturated within days.
Man..I really should be taking my own advice LOL.
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...copied-Stop-it!
But yes, you really didn't test many offers, yet. New affiliates often struggle with this part. It's hard to realize that out of 10 offers there might be just a single good one, or not even that. Affiliate networks have literally thousands of offers in their lists and majority of them simply don't perform well at all. Weeding through them can be challenging and frustrating, but that's the only way to do it. So if you decide to test sweeps in some GEO and you see 20 offers matching that criteria, simply test all of them.
Either too competitive with too high bids or not that much volume available.
About the question from the title "How to find a profitable offer as a newbie??"
Easiest way: Ask your AMs, tell them what you are running and what you are looking for and let them give you good offers for your needs.
Originally Posted by impian
Its really good to know that I wasn't the only one feeling that way. But as you said it is better for me to test the offer and then worry about the language.
Although I might have to filter out few goes based on the population before I test them. Thankyou for the advice Imipian.
Originally Posted by matuloo
Yes I was worried, that one might not be enough. Plus as every body said I might have been testing my offers in very competitive countries. I think that made things much more worse. But its ok, I have learned my lesson for now I will stick on the Tier 3 countries until I find a Green campaign. It can be small or Big I don't care about that, although I still one doubt I have been testing sweeps until now but are there any other recommendation to tier 3 test + as neewbie for offer that I should consider testing.
Thanks.
Originally Posted by ranrev
And yes, staying away from the top countries is a must pretty much, when starting out.
Sweeps are one of the easiest to convert verticals, I would stick to them for now. There is no guarantee that you will be able to make profits with this vertical, but as the learning ground, it's certainly a good choice if not the best one.
Thanks you guys for this helpful information. I have started to implemented some of the suggestions already.
I have another doubt at the moment.
I have seen that people do day parting on their campaigns, and I have been doing it for all my testing campaigns ever since.
But now when I think of it, I am not sure if that is a good idea or not.
I have been just testing from 7AM to 11PM for all my campaigns with offer's specific time zone.
Does anyone thinks this is a good idea or should I stop doing it.
(In this scenario we are just talking about testing a new offer, since I haven't found a profitable offer yet testing is what I do all the time).
Thanks.
Originally Posted by ranrev
It's true that people in every GEO follow certain habits and they do convert on a different scale throughout the day, but in order to spot these patterns and be able to tell what the best hours are for a specific offer, you need to run a few full days first.
By running non-stop, you will also get a better idea about the volume you can get from a traffic source and how the prices vary as the day goes by.
On top of that, weekends also tend to perform differently compared to regular working days, so that's another thing to take into consideration.
Whenever I can, I always try to run a full week or even two, before I resort to day/week parting.
BUT, it's quite safe to say that the night hours usually perform a bit worse than day hours, so what you have been doing wasn't such a big fail at all. Still, I would vote for collecting some data from all hours first, then trying to look at the data to see whether dayparting makes sense.
A ton of great advice has been given. Here's my contribution:
There's really no way around having to test a lot of offers. What you can start doing, is try to figure out how to test efficiently. - i.e. doing the same amount of testing with less time and on smaller budget.
Here are a few tips.
1)Use your best traffic for testing.
Doing so can minimize your testing costs.
Take SG for example - seeing as most of your stats seems to be for this geo. Develop a blacklist and/or whitelist of placements, and test all the good offers you can find (talk to different networks to see if they have SG offers they can recommend), either on the blacklist or whitelist.
And of course, use the best-quality traffic source you have!
Regarding dayparting from the start, I feel differently from matuloo (which is OK - we all run campaigns a bit differently!) In most countries and for most verticals, the sleeping hours are the worst-converting hours, so for initial quick testing I try to avoid those.
Once you find an offer that has potential, you can ALWAYS open up your targeting to maximize profits. But when you're mass-testing offers in the beginning, it would be good to minimize costs - and targeting ONLY your best traffic will help with this.
And if the traffic source has campaign options that lets you choose the quality of traffic - for example on popads where you can choose from quality 1-10 - choosing high-quality traffic for initial testing can be a good idea. BUT - only if you're targeting a big geo with lots of traffic. Otherwise you may get so little traffic that the testing would take forever.
And do ask your AM what traffic segments convert best for the offer. It may be 3g/4g (mobile carrier) traffic for example. Target the best-converting segments for initial testing.
As for bidding, bidding average would be fine. Bidding higher than average in the beginning without cutting garbage placements first would mean overpaying for garbage placements, and bidding too low can get you garbage traffic that won't convert, therefore not doing justice to the offers you're testing.
Of course, by targeting the best traffic, traffic volume usually suffers. But if you're willing to wait longer for the testing to complete, you can save considerably on test budget. And you can keep yourself plenty busy by setting up more campaigns - since we're talking about mass-testing here!
2)Spend less than the recommended test budget per offer.
I know I know - a number of veterans, including myself, have recommended to run 10x payout in ad spend to each offer. But that's assuming you're running in a new geo for the first time (on a given traffic network).
If you heed the advice above by targeting your best traffic when testing offers, then you won't need to run 10x payout. Maybe even 5x payout would be enough. It depends on how confident you are in the traffic quality.
Some of you will say "but such a low budget is not enough to see the full potential of the offer", and you may be right. By spending such a small budget on an offer, you may give up on a winner prematurely. But at the same time, you'd be able to cut your test budget down massively when testing a ton of offers, AND the good offers you DO uncover in this process will likely be real winners.
And with the pop and push landscape being so competitive these days, real winner offers are what you need to be after.
3)Use your best creatives for testing.
Do you have a proven lander and/or push ad from past campaigns? Use those to do your initial offer testing! Even if you're running sweeps for a new "prize" which you don't have a proven lander/ad for, just grab a winning lander/ad from a past campaign and change the prize. When you see some indication that the offer has potential, you can ALWAYS go back and test more landers and ads. This way you can save considerable amount of time and test more offers in less time.
Another way to save time is to prepare landers in languages that are widely-spoken, in multiple countries. That way you can test multiple geos with one set of landers to save time.
Hope that helps!
Amy
More tips here that may help: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post407440
@vortex Would you recommend targeting, as in your example, mobile traffic instead of desktop+mobile only when an AM tells you the former converts better, or as a standard for every test campaign? In many cases, mobile traffic (or 4G traffic, or Android traffic, etc.) tends to convert better, but I wouldn't know what targeting to use for a test campaign.
Originally Posted by chilldude
I always target mobile and desktop traffic in specific campaigns, so one for mobile and one for desktop. If the traffic source allows that, I target even tablets separately, at least in the testing phase. All of these traffic types tend to convert in a different way and also the bids are usually somewhat different for each of them.
Originally Posted by vortex
Firstly, I am a Big Fan of your work - 40 days tutorial. Thank you so much for so detailed response, I have already started to implement some of the solutions that were provided to me. Let me try to implement some of the solutions you have suggested. And I pretty sure that I will be back with many more doubts as I hopefully progress in AM.
BTW I have an update, as @plutus previously suggested I have applied for Clickdealer (Again) and Maxbounty.
Unfortunately, Clickdealer has rejected me, I think I might be doing something wrong. Anyway, I will try again when I gain more experience.
And fortunately, Maxbounty has agreed to create my account. Do you have any suggestions about using Maxbounty offers?
Also any other suggestions for newbie-friendly AM Networks.
Thanks.
Originally Posted by chilldude
I agree with you regarding mobile traffic converting better - so if there's no intel from the AM, I would usually target 3/4/5g first, because if that doesn't convert well, there would be little chance for wifi to perform any better.
Amy
Originally Posted by ranrev
Clickdealer does reject a lot of applicants - this is the only way to ensure they have adequate resources to spend on their existing affiliates. I'm thankful that they are accepting SOME newbies we've been referring to them. It doesn't necessarily mean you've done something wrong.
And you're absolutely right - you can always reapply after doing some revenue with other networks.
In this business you cannot take rejections as an insult, or be deterred or demotivated from moving forward. Nothing is personal - it all comes down to what makes the most sense for business (for the affiliate or traffic networks). The more doors you knock on the more will open, and that's what matters. The same thing applies to submitting your campaigns to traffic sources - sometimes they'll get rejected, so you tweak and try again. Same thing with testing - many offers/landers/sources you test will not work out, but the more you test, the more winners you'll find. So this business is ALL about testing different things to look for what works, and ignoring rejections/"failures".
I don't have any tips that applies specifically to Maxbounty's offers, because there's nothing inherently "special" about their offers, i.e. all the general advice that applies to CPA offers in general, should also apply to their offers. And the usual advice for newbies is to stick to low-payout offers (<$2, or better, <$1), preferably in tier 3/4 geos (i.e. developing countries).
As for newbie-friendly networks: You can find a list here - https://stmforum.com/central-vendor-app/
You can also use that tool to apply to some or all of those networks to save some time. Not all networks will get back to you, but some will.
Also: We have a directory with contact information you can use to reach out to various networks: https://stmforum.com/affiliate-directory/
Hope that helps! Please feel free to ask further questions.
Amy
Hey Guys,
I have a quick update. I have been testing Haka offers, and since Haka have similar 12 offers for everyone I am not gonna disclose the Geo.
So I have been testing these offers and got a total of 11 conversion in last 2 days and spent a total of 20$ with dayparting.
Right Now the ROI is -80%, but there are a couple of things I can change and hopefully bring it to Green.
I have been testing them with direct link and I am testing 5 similar kind of offers at once.
So I have 5 offers and 8 creatives, right it is getting clear what is working and what is not,
but my question is
(1) when will I understand that I have enough data to make a decision. Since people generally recommend 3 days of data collection, which is fine but
what I am confused about is now do I change anything or should let it run for 1 more day exactly how it is now.
(2) Another thing I want to ask is Haka offers also works with WIFI right? Since my Haka Manager haven't replied yet I wanted to ask you guys.
Since for the testing I was check both Wifi and LTE at once.
(3) Do you guys suggest me to test LPs also, since these offers are quick enough to load with 2 seconds. Are LPs recommended to test in this case?
(4) As you can see right now I am using vague creatives, but when I finalize 1 or 2 offers out of 5 do I tests more direct creatives along with the best working once?
(5) Am I missing something here?
Offer Stats (Note: Voluume is showing 10 coversions for some reason and Haka 11)
pick a number 1 through 30
Creative Stats
double dice roller
Originally Posted by ranrev
Secondly, what tutorial are you following? If you follow the Vortex 40day tutorial, the step one is to find an offer which converts 2 times first. Then the step two is to find the landing page. In any case, if any offer is not converting once every 5x in adspend - something is wrong - probably offer sucks.
Originally Posted by mantas
Hey Mantas, Let me get this right. If you say you test 5x the payout to check if the offer is good enough for you or not. Now in this case the offer payout is 0.35$
I would understand if an offer with a payout of 1.68$ will be 8.4$ with 5x and 16.8$ with 10x. Which will a decent amount to test the offer, but in this scenario, the 5x and 10x will be 1.75$ & 3.5$ respectively. Even if I go 20x of the payout it will be just 7$.
But overall If I were to understand what you mean, is the time doesn't matter. So since I have spent 20$ which is equivalent to 57x of the payout I can start optimization.
Yes, I was following 40's day tutorial. But in this case, the offer seems to work well enough on its own. It has converted on its own 11 times, although here I think you mean to say that I should test the LP's to see if they work better.
But from what you said before I have a question, you said 'Find an offer which converts 2 times first'. By this, I assume you mean to test the offer via direct linking.
And yes I have done that before, but the only thing that concerns me is the loading time. Some of the offers I have tested via direct linking take up to 10 sec to load fully. Propeller ads also show a warning like this:
"Redirect time for your landing page is too slow
Total redirect time:11 sec
First redirect time:11 sec
Checked country: Kenya
Long redirect time interrups convertion funnel, as it increases your landing page loading speed"
Although I am not facing this problem with the current offer. So what do you do when the offer page is slow. Do you still test it via direct linking or do add a LP for testing?
Note: I have only test offers from
Thanks.
Originally Posted by ranrev
Originally Posted by mantas
Haka offers convert quite well direct linking, as they use their own landers, and you can kinda pick and choose which offer you want and they all convert roughly the same.
But for normal sweeps offers like SOI, DOI, Pin Submit, CC Submit. Yes, landers a must.
Originally Posted by matuloo
If an offer shows promise, I'll run camps for a month, or months, as long as I'm not hemorrhaging money.
And even then, I still don't daypart. Because that's what so many others are attempting to do, and you know what? Traffic is cheaper at night, even if it doesn't convert as well, it can convert and it will be much cheaper when it does.
Mostly the volume, the adspend and the performance in the different times of the day are directly connected.
At times when the campaigns don´t perform that good (late at night) you mostly also don´t receive much volume so that you also don´t pay much.
1) You get list of top offers by revenue from a few networks...
2) You open each using a proxy in the geo (many will redirect u elsewhere otherwise), and you write down the final URL (the offer domain)
3) You plug em in one by one into similarweb... u want to set it last 30 days in similarweb and see which one shows up as having traffic, and then u wanna find where the traffic is trending up
4) Now you take the top 3 offers after u checked ie 30, and u plug em into adplexity ... and see what shows up..
then u start testing those offers, either on same traffic source or similar one.... if push then ZP, propeller, etc, if native, then tab/outbrain... if FB, then try TikTok
Hey Guys,
Can someone tell me, how much time do you guys spend on Anstrex.
Here I am just talking about Push, I think I am not using spy tool to its fullest extent.
When looking for new offers to test where do you guys start from.
I have been told that asking your Traffic network what geo is currently performing also helps sometimes.
But upon asking the support of Propeller Ads they told me Tier 1 is the best. Which honestly did not take me anywhere.
Now I don't know that was I supposed to ask that to the networks manager or the support. But I don't have a manager in propeller ads,
I don't know how to get one. I reckon they would allot me one once I spend more.
The other thing I do is to look in the spy tool. But at the moments the only time I am using my Antrex account is when
I am looking for creatives for the offers that were recommended by some offer networks managers. That's the only time.
Which led me to think that I might not be using Anstrex to its fullest extent.
Which is what I want to know.
1. How much time do you guys generally spent on it.
2. Any tips and tricks that would help me out to use it much wisely.
3. So there are so many variables I don't know how to shortlist stuff from Spy tool. (Any tips here)
Thanks,
SID
Originally Posted by ranrev
Ask your Affiliate Network AM. Like Clickdealer or Gotzha or whatever. They know what offers are doing best everywhere. If they’re busy and don’t have time for you, they’ll just say Tier 1/2 or tell you to run shit in IN/TH because they’re converting well for others. But.
If you have an AM who is not a moron and has some time for you, they will get you a list of good performing offers in whatever geo you want. Just be upfront with what you’re asking. There is no shame in saying ‘I’m a newbie and I want to convert in shit-tier geos to learn the ropes without losing all my money on high payouts in expensive geos.’
As for spy tools. I only use for inspiration, like you. Some spend more time with them actually spying, but I find I don’t have that much time to spend on searching for the hottest shit right now... but when I did, adplexity had really good tools for finding stuff by geo, advertiser, traffic source, add network, etc.
@twinaxe and @platinum had great posts somewhere on how to use adplexity to find offers and landers by the biggest advertisers... I just can’t find them at the moment.
What you need first, is to figure what you are searching for (a geo? An offer? A lander?) and then come up with a plan on how to go about that on anstrex. Try all the buttons, break things, sort things, see what those weird gravity and ad score things actually mean, etc.
Originally Posted by jaybot
Hey Jaybot,
Thank you for responding. It was helpful to get ur insight. Have learned so much from your follow along.
Although, how do you go about shortlisting geo, an offer, a lander?
Then how do you start looking for it?
And I know that would be different for every person. But I wanted to get your opinion on it.
Thanks,
SID
Originally Posted by ranrev
I still think getting a top offers list from an aff network AM is the best starting point. Ignore most of the traps above and you'll see a pattern in the geos and types of offers being run.
Take those geos+offers and start digging on Anstrex. Easiest offers to convert in every geo is sweeps iPhone/S20 also easy to search for.
You'll never need more than 1-3 landers for those offers in each geo. And when testing, I would actually just choose one: Giftbox or Spinner. <-- if you find an offer than converts on either of those, you have a good start.
Here I am just talking about Push, I think I am not using spy tool to its fullest extent.
It really depends what you want to do with the spytool.
Do you just want to rip LPs or do you want to do more in depth research?
When you only want to rip LPs then just go to your spytool, search for LPs that you want to have, rip them and that´s all.
There are only so many different LPs out there that are used by everyone and his dog that you can just grab them.
For creatives I would do a bit more research, for example check what other stuff the guy who´s using the creatives is running.
You don´t want to rip from a beginner but rather from someone who knows what he does.
Check how many campaigns the other dude has running, for how long they are running and such stuff.
Also sort the search results by "received most traffic" and set timeframe to last 7 days.
That way you can make sure to get more recent results and no already burnt creatives.
I either check my CPA networks if there is something new that looks promising for me or when I am looking fort something specific (geo, vertical, flow etc) I ask my AM "Hey, do you have good offers for geo XYZ/vertical ABC" or so.
I also often serach through FB, Linkedin, Telegram groups.
This is mostly very annoying because you will see lots of spam but I also found some very good offers through it.
I wouldn´t recommend that way to beginners because when you have no experience yet you will probably go through many spammers and low quality stuff first before <ou find real good opportunities.
But upon asking the support of Propeller Ads they told me Tier 1 is the best. Which honestly did not take me anywhere.
It´s not completely wrong, for example US has lots of traffic and many good offers so of course it´s a great geo and good performing.
But it´s also competitive and expensive so even when it´s the best geo for the trafficsource it doesn´t have to be the best geo for you as well.
Different people have dofferent needs.
I wouldn´t start the research from the trafficside, better start it from the offer side.
When you have a good offer it´s easy to test traffic on it.
When you start with the best geo in terms of traffic you will have it much harder because when you don´t find good offers for it you just won´t succeed.
Offer is absolutely king and should be taken care of first.
Originally Posted by twinaxe
Originally Posted by henrynguyengbr2016
But as I said, for a beginner I wouldn´t really recommend to search offers through FB or Telegram groups.
In these groups is often lots of spam from low quality networks and trafficsources, when you don´t have experience and don´t know what to look for it´s easy to find many bad opportunities
For a beginner it´s better stick with reliable and well-known networks.
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