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11-06-2020 03:19 PM #1 wisdompower (Veteran Member)
Does google deindex or ban certain types of contents?

Does google deindex or ban certain types of contents? Say for instance of a sexual nature to collect email subscribers in the adult niche...
And do the autoresponders have issues with collection of such emails?
There are restrictions on youtube for sure. Yet I guess they allow with an "adult" warning. So, what's the key to staying safe with launching adult websites and campaigns on youtube and Google paid ads (seasrch and display)?

11-07-2020 07:53 PM #2 jeremie (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by wisdompower View Post
Does google deindex or ban certain types of contents? Say for instance of a sexual nature to collect email subscribers in the adult niche...
And do the autoresponders have issues with collection of such emails?
There are restrictions on youtube for sure. Yet I guess they allow with an "adult" warning. So, what's the key to staying safe with launching adult websites and campaigns on youtube and Google paid ads (seasrch and display)?
I am not sure what is the exact question. Your post is in the SEO section, so I guess you want to rank websites in Google Search? But at the same time, you are asking about Google Paid Ads? Can you clarify what your goal is?

11-07-2020 08:24 PM #3 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jeremie View Post
I am not sure what is the exact question. Your post is in the SEO section, so I guess you want to rank websites in Google Search? But at the same time, you are asking about Google Paid Ads? Can you clarify what your goal is?
I want to clarify if there are different policies for adult contents for free google traffic and paid google traffic. Can we just post anything and Google will index it? But I wondered if there must be restrictions in paid Google traffic...
As far as my goals are concerned... it's about getting free adult traffic with SEO on Google. And possibly paid traffic too on Google and what exactly is allowed there.

11-07-2020 08:31 PM #4 jeremie (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by wisdompower View Post
I want to clarify if there are different policies for adult contents for free google traffic and paid google traffic. Can we just post anything and Google will index it? But I wondered if there must be restrictions in paid Google traffic...
As far as my goals are concerned... it's about getting free adult traffic with SEO on Google. And possibly paid traffic too on Google and what exactly is allowed there.
There is a policy for paid traffic, which classified Adult as Restricted. See here what is authorized or not:
https://support.google.com/adspolicy.../6008942?hl=en

For ranking, there is no policy of what is authorized or not, as well as what the ranking factors are. Have a look at the pages which are ranking on the first page for the KW you are interested in, analyze them with tools such as ahref, and you will get an idea how easy/fast you could rank. On adult, it is going to be difficult to compete though, except on obscure geos or low volume KW.

11-07-2020 08:39 PM #5 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jeremie View Post
There is a policy for paid traffic, which classified Adult as Restricted. See here what is authorized or not:
https://support.google.com/adspolicy.../6008942?hl=en

For ranking, there is no policy of what is authorized or not, as well as what the ranking factors are. Have a look at the pages which are ranking on the first page for the KW you are interested in, analyze them with tools such as ahref, and you will get an idea how easy/fast you could rank. On adult, it is going to be difficult to compete though, except on obscure geos or low volume KW.
Great, thanks. Will check later in the day. 3 am here .
For SEO I'm not worried about the difficulty to rank. Just concerned if Google deindexes anything that's forbidden. I will assume Google possibly hides some contents on topics like child porn or hate? does it? For sure a lot of adult stuff comes up when one uses the keywords. And there are indeed some key phrases that have a million searches a month and hrefs ranking difficulty says a score of say 3 on a scale 100. meaning super easy to rank...

11-08-2020 10:38 AM #6 valenciacpa (Member)

Hey I have a question about google ads. Does google ads and facebook ads accept offers from CPA networks? Like for example nutra offer could I run a campaign of that in google or facebook? Or I should go to other traffic networks like taboola or outbrain. Thank you.

11-08-2020 10:58 AM #7 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by valenciacpa View Post
Hey I have a question about google ads. Does google ads and facebook ads accept offers from CPA networks? Like for example nutra offer could I run a campaign of that in google or facebook? Or I should go to other traffic networks like taboola or outbrain. Thank you.
I think you need to create a separate thread. I used to ask unconnected questions too in other's threads till a moderator warned me. That was when I joined here in February. Relax!

And of course, you can run campaigns across any network! They are all traffic sources and if you place the right offer before the right audience (traffic), you will profit.

Quick correction - please follow this thread and check @jeremie's answers, especially the correction he made to my suggestion about running offers across all networks.

11-08-2020 11:41 AM #8 jeremie (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by valenciacpa View Post
Hey I have a question about google ads. Does google ads and facebook ads accept offers from CPA networks? Like for example nutra offer could I run a campaign of that in google or facebook? Or I should go to other traffic networks like taboola or outbrain. Thank you.
@valenciacpa, as @wisdompower mentioned, please create a question in the corresponding forum, or put your question in an existing thread if it is related to the topic of your question.
See for example the discussion we had on Google and affiliate offers here: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...le-Display-Ads

First have a look at the policy of the network you want to run ads on, this shall help you understand what is authorized or not and reply to most of your questions. Type NETWORK NAME + ads policy in Google, you should find it.

11-08-2020 11:50 AM #9 jeremie (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by wisdompower View Post
And of course, you can run campaigns across any network!
@wisdompower, the question mentions nutra, which is almost impossible to run in google or facebook without cloaking.
Be aware not to generalize, especially when helping newbies who may end up in trouble or with account ban. You can NOT run campaigns across any network if the underlying offer/vertical is not accepted.

11-08-2020 11:59 AM #10 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jeremie View Post
@wisdompower, the question mentions nutra, which is almost impossible to run in google or facebook without cloaking.
Be aware not to generalize, especially when helping newbies who may end up in trouble or with account ban. You can NOT run campaigns across any network if the underlying offer/vertical is not accepted.
Thanks for correcting me. I will be careful in the future. I kinda overlooked nutra despite being aware of the dangers.

11-08-2020 02:42 PM #11 valenciacpa (Member)

Copy! I get it now. Sorry for asking that in this thread. It doesn´t belong here. Won´t happen again. Should I remove my question? or I just leave it?

11-08-2020 06:50 PM #12 jeremie (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by valenciacpa View Post
Copy! I get it now. Sorry for asking that in this thread. It doesn´t belong here. Won´t happen again. Should I remove my question? or I just leave it?
It is ok. Leave it the way it is.

11-08-2020 09:40 PM #13 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Back to the original question from wisdompower

Google does not show certain types of content in their search results, but we are talking about straight up illegal content... such as child pornography and other nasty shit. So yes, they do some filtering, but as jeremie mentioned, I'm not aware of any official list that would list these categories or niches.

And do the autoresponders have issues with collection of such emails?
Yup, standard email subscription services will have a problem with adult content, you need to find one that allows it. Mailing adult content is a bit more challenging compared to mainstream emails.

11-09-2020 09:09 AM #14 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
Back to the original question from wisdompower
Yup, standard email subscription services will have a problem with adult content, you need to find one that allows it. Mailing adult content is a bit more challenging compared to mainstream emails.
So, I need to ask the autoresponder services first on whether they allow such contents? But how about just "soft" adult contents instead of "hardcore" porn. Say for instance mailing male performance pills to a segmented list in my nutra website or even promoting "hard core" dating websites to dating website subscribers?
I mean without the need to check with autoresponder and ensuring they don't land in spam.

11-09-2020 10:08 AM #15 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by wisdompower View Post
So, I need to ask the autoresponder services first on whether they allow such contents? But how about just "soft" adult contents instead of "hardcore" porn. Say for instance mailing male performance pills to a segmented list in my nutra website or even promoting "hard core" dating websites to dating website subscribers?
I mean without the need to check with autoresponder and ensuring they don't land in spam.
Adult related mailing is a sensitive subject, as is the whole adult business... some companies or their shareholders simply don't want to have anything with it, even though the CEOs most likely surf pornhub in the evening One way or another, I would strongly advice to ask the service upfront, some will be ok with LEGAL adult content. You can obviously mention that you plan to walk on the "softer" side and list a few examples of what you plan to mail out, that should increase your chances. And this way, you will be protected for the future, without having to be afraid of a sudden ban.

11-09-2020 10:19 AM #16 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
Adult related mailing is a sensitive subject, as is the whole adult business... some companies or their shareholders simply don't want to have anything with it, even though the CEOs most likely surf pornhub in the evening One way or another, I would strongly advice to ask the service upfront, some will be ok with LEGAL adult content. You can obviously mention that you plan to walk on the "softer" side and list a few examples of what you plan to mail out, that should increase your chances. And this way, you will be protected for the future, without having to be afraid of a sudden ban.
Makes perfect sense! Thanks again @matuloo.

11-09-2020 03:48 PM #17 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
Adult related mailing is a sensitive subject, as is the whole adult business... some companies or their shareholders simply don't want to have anything with it, even though the CEOs most likely surf pornhub in the evening One way or another, I would strongly advice to ask the service upfront, some will be ok with LEGAL adult content. You can obviously mention that you plan to walk on the "softer" side and list a few examples of what you plan to mail out, that should increase your chances. And this way, you will be protected for the future, without having to be afraid of a sudden ban.
Quick question - does the gambling and crypto niche entail to similar dangers from autoresponders? What about stock markets, forex, loans, etc. ?

11-09-2020 06:56 PM #18 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by wisdompower View Post
Quick question - does the gambling and crypto niche entail to similar dangers from autoresponders? What about stock markets, forex, loans, etc. ?
It's quite different from one service to the next one.

Here are the terms of mailchimp, for example, which is a popular one for sure, but also one of the more strict ones: https://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/

An excerpt :

Prohibited Content

Please don’t use Mailchimp to distribute anything offensive, to promote anything illegal, or to harass anyone. You may not use Mailchimp to create, send, or display:

Campaigns offering to sell illegal goods or services
Emails that violate the CAN-SPAM or other anti-spam laws
Pornography/sexually explicit content
Campaigns promoting or supporting terrorism or violent extremism
Some industries have higher-than-average abuse complaints, which can jeopardize deliverability. In order to maintain the reliability of our platform, we do not allow businesses that offer these types of services, products, or content:

Escort services, mail-order bride/spouse finders, international marriage brokers, and other similar sites and services
Hookup, swinger, or sexual encounter sites or services
Pharmaceutical products
Work from home, make money online, and lead generation opportunities
Gambling services or products
Multi-level marketing
Affiliate marketing
Credit repair and get out of debt opportunities
List brokers or list rental services
Selling “Likes” or followers for a social media platform
Cryptocurrencies, virtual currencies, and any digital assets related to an Initial Coin Offering


Content Subject to Additional Scrutiny
We’ve also found that certain types of content may cause higher-than-average abuse rates. For that reason, we may closely review, suspend, throttle, or disable accounts that offer the following services, products, or content:

Online trading, day trading tips, or stock market related content
Daily horoscope reports
Mortgages and loans
Nutritional, herbal, and vitamin supplements
Adult entertainment/novelty items
Online dating services and applications (dating sites or services with a sexual emphasis or sexually explicit content – including images depicting nudity – are not permitted)
Real estate
Services that support programmatically sending mail on behalf of third parties without creating or reviewing the content
So mailchimp is most likely not the right service for you.

11-10-2020 03:40 AM #19 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

@matuloo It mentions affiliate marketing! So, how does one use email marketing for affiliate promotions?! Mailchimp integrated Shopify but now they are no more with them. Also, there is a mention of pharmaceuticals ( which possibly covers nutra)! I use active campaign for nutra ( they are private labeled products though) and they don't seem to have problems. I also get emails from online gambling and crypto companies, so they must be using a service for sure. Just wondering which?! I can also check with each email service individually though.

11-10-2020 08:05 AM #20 popcash ()

Quote Originally Posted by wisdompower View Post
@matuloo It mentions affiliate marketing! So, how does one use email marketing for affiliate promotions?! Mailchimp integrated Shopify but now they are no more with them. Also, there is a mention of pharmaceuticals ( which possibly covers nutra)! I use active campaign for nutra ( they are private labeled products though) and they don't seem to have problems. I also get emails from online gambling and crypto companies, so they must be using a service for sure. Just wondering which?! I can also check with each email service individually though.
Since your queries are specific enough, checking with each email service individually would be the recommended course of action if you ask me. Once you know for sure the glove fits, you won't have to worry about having your services suspended which could end up taxing your workflow and revenue.

11-10-2020 08:09 AM #21 jeremie (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by wisdompower View Post
so they must be using a service for sure
Probably not. Email as a service (MailChimp / ActiveCampaign for "full" services including autoresponders, or Mailjet/SengGrid for only the email sending part) is just that: a service to help you sending email more easily without managing the infrastructure. Just like Amazon S3/CloudFront allows you to deploy a site without having to deploy a serie of servers worldwide.

Is it easier? Definitely!
Is it required? No

You can have your own email server. Problem, you need to manage yourself all the functions of the email chain (SMTP / MSA / MTA), control the quality and rotate sending IP and domains, manage the feedback loop to avoid being flagged as spam. If you know what you are doing, it is not that complicated, but it has become more tedious. All these functions are integrated when using an email provider. But as they provide these services to you, they have to take care of their IP pools, so they are much more sensitive to spam that someone with his own infrastructure.

See this article for an overview of the challenges:
https://sendgrid.com/resource/the-em...-it-or-buy-it/

This is a different topic though. More suitable for another thread.

11-10-2020 09:09 AM #22 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

@jeremie Right! I had a faint awareness of that because I have come across udemy courses teaching how to start one's own mail server. Then in say the year 2000 to 2005 hosting was tricky too and it made sense having one's own server then. Big bulky computers (and kept well-protected!)as far as I remember. Slowly things evolved... And now even in a "poor" country like India where the kind of cell phones that were costing $1500 a piece 15 to 20 years back, no one is going to buy now for $1 even if it is fully functional! And $1500 of those times is like $15000 of today.
Sorry for deviating... but yeah I understand what you are hinting at!
Cheers

11-10-2020 09:32 AM #23 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by wisdompower View Post
@matuloo It mentions affiliate marketing! So, how does one use email marketing for affiliate promotions?! Mailchimp integrated Shopify but now they are no more with them. Also, there is a mention of pharmaceuticals ( which possibly covers nutra)! I use active campaign for nutra ( they are private labeled products though) and they don't seem to have problems. I also get emails from online gambling and crypto companies, so they must be using a service for sure. Just wondering which?! I can also check with each email service individually though.
I mentioned mailchimp on purpose, since it's a very popular service with quite strict rules. Some time ago, someone asked about them and affiliate marketing, that's when I researched the rules and found out that they were actually not allowing standard affiliate products to be promoted.

There are way more out there... getresponse, activecampaign, aweber... not all of them are that strict.

Some companies specialize in the more high risk verticals, such as adult, for example ynotmail... but they are on the more pricey side.

And there is always the option that jeremie mentioned, you can handle it "yourself" I believe this is what most of the folks in these sensitive verticals are doing.

11-10-2020 11:00 AM #24 wisdompower (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
I mentioned mailchimp on purpose, since it's a very popular service with quite strict rules. Some time ago, someone asked about them and affiliate marketing, that's when I researched the rules and found out that they were actually not allowing standard affiliate products to be promoted.

There are way more out there... getresponse, activecampaign, aweber... not all of them are that strict.

Some companies specialize in the more high risk verticals, such as adult, for example ynotmail... but they are on the more pricey side.

And there is always the option that jeremie mentioned, you can handle it "yourself" I believe this is what most of the folks in these sensitive verticals are doing.
Great, thanks!

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