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04-12-2020 05:32 PM #1 roiter123 (Senior Member)
Better Tracker = More $$$ ? Or NAHH ?

Hi guys

While everyone is waiting for @twinaxe 's next part on his Push Tutorial, I wanted to come up with this topic: the redirect speed of your tracker = how crucial is it?

I wonder if anyone had done research on the effect of the tracker's redirect speed and the performance of campaigns (I'm mostly running Push right now so that's why I'm posting this here.. )

I am currently using Bemob and personally I feel like its a little slow but I'm not sure if I'm judging it accurately.

By the way, Kintura now offers a plan of free 1 million events which I think its great! They also have an "auto optimization" feature so I wonder what that's about, but they don't answer me so far Probably on easter vacation


04-12-2020 06:38 PM #2 jaybot (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by roiter123 View Post
Hi guys

While everyone is waiting for @twinaxe 's next part on his Push Tutorial, I wanted to come up with this topic: the redirect speed of your tracker = how crucial is it?

I wonder if anyone had done research on the effect of the tracker's redirect speed and the performance of campaigns (I'm mostly running Push right now so that's why I'm posting this here.. )

I am currently using Bemob and personally I feel like its a little slow but I'm not sure if I'm judging it accurately.

By the way, Kintura now offers a plan of free 1 million events which I think its great! They also have an "auto optimization" feature so I wonder what that's about, but they don't answer me so far Probably on easter vacation
BeMob is solid. I know affiliates that have used BeMob to make tons of money with Push and Pops.

That being said, speed won't be an issue with push as much as it is with pops. Push already has intention as the user clicked on it. They'll wait longer.

Kintura is free. No harm in testing it. I ran a few campaigns and it works just as well as BeMob or Voluum. Setting up camps is a little funky, but you'll get used to it.


04-12-2020 07:38 PM #3 manchester (Member)

I enjoyed using Bemob when I first started. It must be user friendly because I instantly felt comfortable using it and I rarely made any tracking mistakes. I liked it. I really fancied trying Kintura at that time too, but they didn't have the excellent free tier that they have now.

With Kintura I was also a little worried that using the AI for optimisation would mean that I learned less about optimisation myself (I wanted to get my hands dirty).

I use Binom now, I was very confused with it at first, it seemed super powerful and too complicated, I nearly went back to using Bemob at one stage. But all of a sudden, it clicked, and now I am really enjoying using it! I love it, I've got a flow with it now. Also the support is mind blowingly good, they have always answered my many questions within a minute or so, and everyone knows what they are talking about and are really friendly. I feel like Binom has so much depth, I haven't even scratched the surface of the features I bet. I keep finding surprising little features hiding in every nook and cranny


04-13-2020 11:23 AM #4 roiter123 (Senior Member)

Yep, Kintura & Binom must be great! @manchester what kind of features are you talking about on Binom?
Binom must be a great choice for affiliates doing big volumes since they got a one price plan per all volumes, really cost effective.
Kintura cought my eye on that auto optimization thing, I must check it out.

Anyone knows how to compare redirect speeds of a tracker?


04-13-2020 11:30 AM #5 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by roiter123 View Post
I wanted to come up with this topic: the redirect speed of your tracker = how crucial is it?

I wonder if anyone had done research on the effect of the tracker's redirect speed and the performance of campaigns (I'm mostly running Push right now so that's why I'm posting this here.. )
I never used Bemob myself so I can´t tell anything exactly about it but in the end all halfway decent coded trackers should also have fast enough redirects.

Then there are the redirects that are not tracker internal but rather depend on your infrastructure, SaaS vs self hosted tracker.

Of course a SaaS tracker with servers all around the world can have an advantage over a selfhosted tracker when it comes to redirect speed.

There it also depends on the infrastructure you use.

When you run a selfhosted tracker on a shared webspace at Hostgator then you should switch to a better host anyway.
When you have a solid setup yourself then we talk about milliseconds difference for redirects and that doesn´t have big impact on the performance at all.

But then there are the redirects that have nothing to do with the tracker but rather with your landing pages, where and how you host them.

For landers you should also use a t least a VPS, a DNS service and a CDN.
That way you can also reduce the redirect time alot.


04-13-2020 12:17 PM #6 manchester (Member)

@manchester what kind of features are you talking about on Binom?
Off the top of my head, the ability to switch your landers domain if you get a google flag. I found that one recently! now if I get a flag, everything switches over automatically and keeps on running.


04-13-2020 01:30 PM #7 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Custom columns are also a great feature in Binom.


04-13-2020 07:13 PM #8 roiter123 (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by twinaxe View Post
I never used Bemob myself so I can´t tell anything exactly about it but in the end all halfway decent coded trackers should also have fast enough redirects.

Then there are the redirects that are not tracker internal but rather depend on your infrastructure, SaaS vs self hosted tracker.

Of course a SaaS tracker with servers all around the world can have an advantage over a selfhosted tracker when it comes to redirect speed.

There it also depends on the infrastructure you use.

When you run a selfhosted tracker on a shared webspace at Hostgator then you should switch to a better host anyway.
When you have a solid setup yourself then we talk about milliseconds difference for redirects and that doesn´t have big impact on the performance at all.

But then there are the redirects that have nothing to do with the tracker but rather with your landing pages, where and how you host them.

For landers you should also use a t least a VPS, a DNS service and a CDN.
That way you can also reduce the redirect time alot.
Thanks for your awesome replay Can you give an example of an Saas tracker?
So basically if an affiliate is running the AWS S3 setup from Amy's tutorial or a cheap Digital Ocean droplet and a decent tracker he should be okay, right?
(btw, I wanna switch to a different - cheaper & faster setup from AWS S3, hopefully anyone can shed some light here )

Which tracker are you personally using for Push, @twinaxe, or what's your setup?


04-13-2020 07:26 PM #9 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Great when it helped a bit already.

In THIS POST I tell about about Binom, Voluum and Funnelflux.

I personally use Binom and I am very happy with it.

But as a beginner I would definitely also check Funnelflux, it's pretty unique with its visual editor.

And it's available as self-hosted and cloud hosted.

Let me know when you have more questions.


04-13-2020 09:46 PM #10 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Any serious tracker these days is fast enough and switching to another one just because of a minimal speed gain is pointless.

In case you want to see what the differences between the trackers are in terms of redirect speeds, check this case study performed by Voluum directly, the differences are not big at all :

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-thrive-voluum


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