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04-11-2020 03:04 PM #1 sossov (Member)
Pop campaign doesn't seem to work as it should :-/

Hi!
After going through @vortex' amazing (!) 40 days, I fill a bit stuck. maybe some veteran advice would be helpful here


I've started with iPhone sweeps offers.


Traffic sources- propeller ads, Pop ads
Affiliate networks: Gotzha, Clickdealer
Tracker- Volume


- I believe I have set everything correctly (postback tokens etc.)
- AM recommends most of the offers I've used
- Bidded above average in all campaigns
- Used any variation of LP I could find (including those that showed high performance on Adplexity (English only))


Here are my links:
https://www.short-time-offers.com/sw...LP1/index.html
https://www.short-time-offers.com/sw...LP2/index.html
https://www.short-time-offers.com/sw...LP3/index.html
https://www.short-time-offers.com/sw...LP4/index.html
https://www.short-time-offers.com/sw...LP5/index.html
https://www.short-time-offers.com/sw...LP6/index.html


Everything seems to function well and displayed well.


So I run a 'by the book' multi-variant test, that means rotating few offers (between 3-10 for each GEO), GEO's (GB, AU, NZ, CA) Traffic sources (Clickdealer, Gotzha), and LP (1-6 above), waiting for those conversions to come so I could optimize further.


Results:
CTR was OK a guess, between 15%-25%
but almost no Conv.


I have the volume anti-fraud kit installed, tried to exclude those bad placements- nothing works.


I'm not using a Cloaker, so I'm not sure if getting more aggressive is even an option as a solution...


What am I doing wrong?
Thanks a lot!


04-11-2020 03:54 PM #2 larsometer (Senior Member)

Am a beginner so cannot really help.

But... in order for people to help you it would make sense to provide the Voluum stats here (upload screenshot on imgur and paste the png link here). Also might help if you give a bit of insight concerning the offers you are using (payout & payout type).


04-11-2020 04:12 PM #3 sossov (Member)

Offers where all SOI, payout between between 1.5-2.5$

volume scrshot:
https://imgur.com/PpZBd7r



04-11-2020 04:49 PM #4 larsometer (Senior Member)

You have got 48 conversions in the first line. Thats quite something!

I guess you now need to analyze your data and weed out the bad placements.

Maybe some of the pros jump in and give you more specific advice.

Have a great Easter.


04-11-2020 07:23 PM #5 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Would be great when you could insert the images properly.

I can't see anything there on my phone, it's all blurred

The landers are OK but better stop using the Google lander or your domain will probably get flagged pretty fast and you can also get problems with the trafficsources.

I tested the slot machine for sweeps myself some time ago but didn't work well.
It's much better for casino offers.

Can probably say more about your campaigns when I am online on my pc o that I can see the screenshot better.


04-12-2020 05:54 AM #6 manchester (Member)

I tested the slot machine for sweeps myself some time ago but didn't work well.
It's much better for casino offers.
Very true, when I first started I used the slot machine lander for sweeps and it never did well.


04-12-2020 07:30 AM #7 sossov (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by twinaxe View Post
Would be great when you could insert the images properly.

I can't see anything there on my phone, it's all blurred

The landers are OK but better stop using the Google lander or your domain will probably get flagged pretty fast and you can also get problems with the trafficsources.

I tested the slot machine for sweeps myself some time ago but didn't work well.
It's much better for casino offers.

Can probably say more about your campaigns when I am online on my pc o that I can see the screenshot better.
@twinaxe
hope it's better-
can't see an option to enlarge it more than that

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tnx!


04-12-2020 07:54 AM #8 manchester (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by sossov View Post
@twinaxe
hope it's better-
can't see an option to enlarge it more than that

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tnx!
I use https://gyazo.com/ or https://postimage.org/ and I know other people like imgur.

Then I just use the direct link in an image tag and it seems to display great. I don't use the forums own image tool.

Hope that helps,

Gav


04-12-2020 02:30 PM #9 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

First question, do you create seperate campaigns for each offer even when it´s for the same product?

If yes, stop it.

When you have same targeting you should run same products (like iPhone 11) in one campaign and splittest them there.
For example, don´t run UK iPhone 11 SOI offers in seperate campaigns.
Run them all in one campaign and splittest, otherwise you will go insane when you create a new campaugn for each new offer

About landers, as I said I would stop the Google lander or at least make it more non-aggressive or you can get into trouble running it.
Slot machines work better for casino and I naver had success with sweeps with the lander.
Spin and win can work good, test it.
Seems that you also run the lander I posted HERE, use it as well because it´s working quite good.
This lander can also be tested, never ran it myself but maybe it works.

But important would be to have all the landers and offers that mtach together in one campaign so that you can compare the performance better.

Now you have one offer with 48 conversions so it seems the offer is converting.
Use that offer to test the landers for the best LP.

Then use the best LP to test it with all offers for that targeting.


04-12-2020 07:58 PM #10 sossov (Member)

Hi,

Thanks for the in-depth reply @twinaxe !
and for the boxes LP post as well :-)


1. I actually don't separate campaigns per offer- I rotate LP's and Offer's at the same campaign.
I only split campaigns per GEO and per trafficsource.
2. I've already stopped the google LP, thanks for the advice!
3. the one with the ~50 conv. stopped converting after I've paused it

I'll keep testing, hope i'll figure it out

thanks again!


04-13-2020 11:18 AM #11 twinaxe (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by sossov View Post
1. I actually don't separate campaigns per offer- I rotate LP's and Offer's at the same campaign.
I only split campaigns per GEO and per trafficsource.
I just asked because it seems that you have several campaigns for the same targeting/goal



Anyway, keep us updated


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