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Cloaked Accounts: How long do they last? (17)

12-24-2011 08:51 AM #1 mraffiliate (Member)
Cloaked Accounts: How long do they last?

Just wondering how long your cloaked accounts are lasting you.

I have campaigns cloaked for a month of so, running low volume ($200-$500 a day)

Blew through another account in 4 days running $1500 a day

Blew through another one in 2 days running $1800 a day.

12-24-2011 09:19 AM #2 tijn (Moderator)

anywhere from 1 week to 3 months or more

make sure you cover the basics - ie nothing ties back to your old account -> ie people get new domains for their trackers but forget that its still hosted on the same IP as their banned account

at the end of the day a couple of complaints about your ad and facebook will just ban you so its a bit like russian roulette

12-24-2011 10:12 AM #3 rich (Member)

Originally Posted by tijn

ie people get new domains for their trackers but forget that its still hosted on the same IP as their banned account

I'm actually guilty of this, will deffo remember to change the ip's on future accounts.

12-24-2011 10:38 AM #4 tijn (Moderator)

i know with storm you can buy several IPs with your server for only $1 per ip. ontop of that you can just clone your existing server to a new one which will give it a new ip. all you then need to do is poit your new domain to your new ip

12-24-2011 11:07 AM #5 polarbacon (Moderator)

alot depends too on the cloaker your using and the type of ads you run....the more legit the ad the less issues you will have....fb alot of times banns without even seeing the real lp just based upon the fact that they suspect it....

12-24-2011 01:45 PM #6 ibanez (Member)

Originally Posted by tijn

make sure you cover the basics - ie nothing ties back to your old account -> ie people get new domains for their trackers but forget that its still hosted on the same IP as their banned account

Does FB really check the IP of your server?
Been running my second account with the same tracking URL for a month now and it's still alive.

12-24-2011 03:25 PM #7 dconstrukt (Member)

was thinking of doing this for our fb account.... any suggestions on learning cloaking for fb? we use it for weight loss supps.... but they shut us down... we started a new account and they wont approve any ads. lol

12-24-2011 06:09 PM #8 mraffiliate (Member)

Originally Posted by polarbacon

Correct, we use a pretty sophisticated cloaker and have tested FB's limits. A lot of the times they don't even see the "real" LP and they ban the account simply due to complaints and "suspicious activity"

A lot of it is actually from noob affiliates who don't know how to cloak and are jealous they can't get their ads up.

12-24-2011 06:18 PM #9 Hannah (Member)

I've had one particular cloaked account going for about a year and a half now...

12-24-2011 08:34 PM #10 alpha matt (Member)

How do you fund these Cloaked accounts ppl?

12-24-2011 08:39 PM #11 profitable ()

most cloaked accounts go down because of user complaints. If enough users give negative responses and provide written explanations why... you're account will be banned whether they can see the cloaked url or not.

@alpha matt - fund the accounts like you would any new account. New Credit card, new ip, etc. etc.

12-24-2011 09:37 PM #12 mraffiliate (Member)

Bank debit cards

12-25-2011 12:50 AM #13 polarbacon (Moderator)

Originally Posted by profitable

this is the reason 90% of accounts get banned.....esp if your lp is off fb...as it opens in a new window....and if people go to flog or something thats clearly not what the ad says it is.....its very very easy for them to just to go back to the fb page and report your ad....

you would be surprised at how many people complain....its much more than you think

12-25-2011 02:08 AM #14 tical (Member)

If you're cloaking and popping out of a fan page I personally think it's very important to limit the activity that is allowed on your page. Don't allow wall posts, comments, etc. Delete everything that someone can comment on like profile photos / albums, even the "Page has started using Facebook" wall item that is added when you create a new page (people can comment on that).

When people start navigating around your page and they see negative things it most likely just validates their irritation and fuels their desire to go a step further and complain. If they jump around your page and don't see anything they're probably more likely to just disregard it and move on.

12-26-2011 09:27 PM #15 rmk_ (Member)

We used to get at least a 1-2 month run out of each account, but lately had the banhammer come down within the first couple days on a couple agency accounts. Recently had one run hard on diet from end of March all the way through Thanksgiving and survive a bunch of ads getting retro'd even. I'm wondering if the flurry of network newsletters encouraging noobs to cloak rebills on fb all day is exhausting reviewers' patience as it's been harder and harder to get good ads across lately.

12-26-2011 10:01 PM #16 mraffiliate (Member)

That could be it, not sure why the fuck people would tell noobs how to cloak rebills on FB

12-28-2011 07:13 PM #17 caleb (Senior Member)

Originally Posted by rmk_

We used to get at least a 1-2 month run out of each account, but lately had the banhammer come down within the first couple days on a couple agency accounts. Recently had one run hard on diet from end of March all the way through Thanksgiving and survive a bunch of ads getting retro'd even. I'm wondering if the flurry of network newsletters encouraging noobs to cloak rebills on fb all day is exhausting reviewers' patience as it's been harder and harder to get good ads across lately.

This is about my same story.

Diet. Ran from September of last year to this thanksgiving. Even had like 1/4th my ads retrodisapproved and then I just did NOT touch the account till it got banned finally on Thanksgiving morning

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