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Silverpath vs Game Theory - Update? (30)

12-23-2011 07:23 PM #1 profitable ()
Silverpath vs Game Theory - Update?

I'm going to be launching a new coreg campaign soon, last time I did it was several months ago and at that time Game Theory RPUs were much better than SilverPath (overwhelmingly so for most affiliates).

How do they compare today? Is Game Theory still the chosen champion?

12-23-2011 07:42 PM #2 bbrock32 (Administrator)

At the moment SilverPath is rebuilding their paths for the US so when they finish we should notice better RPUs.

Will do a comparison when they come with the final version of their US path.

12-23-2011 08:50 PM #3 invisible777 (Member)

Both are very bad at present. Try Fluent. PM me if you need a referral.

12-23-2011 09:50 PM #4 xrproto (Member)

Game Theory is still a lot better than Silverpath for me, just did a split test again the other day. Although my RPUs have been up and down on GT, it will be rocking then...poof.

12-24-2011 05:25 AM #5 danny27 (AMC Alumnus)

GT is also testing new stuff I was told. rpu's still the same though.

12-24-2011 09:23 AM #6 boismoney (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by invisible777 View Post
Both are very bad at present. Try Fluent. PM me if you need a referral.
could you please pm me a referral? i cant pm yet.

12-30-2011 10:28 PM #7 lonelyplanet (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by invisible777 View Post
Both are very bad at present. Try Fluent. PM me if you need a referral.
I thought I'd read somewhere that Fluent was just running SP's path?

12-30-2011 11:26 PM #8 kyleirwin (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by lonelyplanet View Post
I thought I'd read somewhere that Fluent was just running SP's path?
False.

Although they may use some of their short codes.

+rep for fluent. Great guys.

12-31-2011 08:28 PM #9 stackman (Administrator)

Honestly, you need to split test both. For a while GT was noticeably better for many, but right now I'd 100% test both right off that bat, because both can perform quite well.

12-31-2011 08:33 PM #10 Mr Green (Administrator)

I ran a test last week and GT owned SP. Since paths are so volatile ill test again probably next week.

P.s. I heard fluent was blaaa.

12-31-2011 10:14 PM #11 ronniet (Member)

Mr.Green,

what type of RPU were you seeing with GT compared to SP? was it hugely different?

Quote Originally Posted by Mr Green View Post
I ran a test last week and GT owned SP. Since paths are so volatile ill test again probably next week.

P.s. I heard fluent was blaaa.

01-01-2012 01:59 PM #12 invisible777 (Member)

Always check/compare your user counts with SP. they scrub as high as 40% to artificially inflate RPU.

I'd recommend fluent until gt can get their stuff together.

01-01-2012 03:38 PM #13 bbrock32 (Administrator)

All the paths are pretty weak right now.

I am doing a comparison running the main three side by side but results don't look good so far.

01-01-2012 04:21 PM #14 heavyt (Senior Member)

Let me know what you find bbrock i'm running gt right now, wouldn't mind switching to fluent

01-01-2012 06:38 PM #15 ibanez (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by invisible777 View Post
Always check/compare your user counts with SP. they scrub as high as 40% to artificially inflate RPU.

I'd recommend fluent until gt can get their stuff together.
what RPU's are you currently seeing with Fluent?

01-01-2012 06:50 PM #16 Mr Green (Administrator)

SP RPUs were 1/4 of GTs.

I'm going to be testing fluent this week.

01-02-2012 12:27 AM #17 lonelyplanet (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by invisible777 View Post

I'd recommend fluent until gt can get their stuff together.
How does GT not have their stuff together?

01-02-2012 01:07 AM #18 invisible777 (Member)

My RPUs haven't been below 1.10 on fluent ever. And that's with minimal user scrub. YMMV but I think they have the strongest and most aggressive paths in the industry. Their AMs will customize your path right down to the font color to match your site. I feel like gt and sp largely use canned and recycled paths with minimal customization.

Send me a PM and I'll make sure you guys get Matt or one of the other good reps.

01-02-2012 01:07 AM #19 invisible777 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by lonelyplanet View Post
How does GT not have their stuff together?
Because they turn a 0.50 RPU while fluent gets me double and then some.

01-02-2012 02:37 AM #20 danny27 (AMC Alumnus)

Justin tested new creatives and optimized for me - the last two days my RPU's with GT has been above $1.30 - could be because of New Year's eve.

01-02-2012 12:03 PM #21 presfox (Member)

My GT RPU's are about 0.85

01-02-2012 04:37 PM #22 kyleirwin (Member)

FYI, fluent counts users differently than GT does. So if you're split testing, make sure you track users on your end and run reporting on that. You can't simply compare RPU to RPU.

01-03-2012 02:26 PM #23 animalsinwar (Member)

@invisible777 -- I've tried to make it pretty well known that I can make all of the same customizations as Fluent (colors, pictures, etc.). If you haven't spoken with me personally, please hit me up!

01-03-2012 07:58 PM #24 ronniet (Member)

am running a test with Fluent this week...I'll report back. Am seeing over a 50% scrub on Silver Path the past few days which has taken my campaign from a healthy ROI to a total disaster...

01-04-2012 02:23 PM #25 presfox (Member)

Anyone has a URL for Fluent for me? Id like to try them as well, split test them against GT

01-04-2012 09:16 PM #26 stache (Member)

I've worked with all three in the past before and I'd
have to say that GameTheory takes the cake - we've
generated $xx,xxx in revenue so far... not a whole
lot, but we're only in the beginning stages of working
with them.

01-17-2012 03:00 AM #27 nitroman (Member)

Any update on which network is yeilding the best RPUS for the majorty of pubs ... GT VS SP VS FL who do you recommend?

I ran GT up until about a month ago. I stopped because my RPUs tanked after a 2 months of running solid with a strict freq caps.

01-17-2012 03:27 AM #28 Mr Green (Administrator)

In-depth update coming soon.

01-24-2012 03:26 AM #29 heavyt (Senior Member)

COming soon?

I just did a 30 min test, gt 1.08 rpu but fluent had a .58 rpu

01-24-2012 06:15 AM #30 MJDUB (Senior Member)

GT is still top dog for me.

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