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Facebook Ad Account Banned Again. Where To Get New One? (30)

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Hi,

Got ban from FB on my ad account where I accidentaly modified my ad which was turned off.

As I am newbie, I am trying some copywriting and videos/images in facebook and sometimes accounts getting ban for whatever reason that facebook don't tell us or it tells what the ban reason but becouse of multiple wrong attempts to modify ad to fit FB policies they disabling it at all.

I tried to write to FB that I am agency and need a lot of accounts to serve clients, but they said that I firstly need to have all of my accounts working with good history, but as I am newbie I can't do everything perfect.

Question: I am wondering if there are any blackhat/whitehat or any hat resources to get accounts for advertising and how to do this correctly? What do you do if all of your accounts got ban?

I know that it against rules bla bla bla, but I want to run whitehat ads and I need to learn somewhere and to learn I need accounts cause FB does not giving me chance to learn.

I can't be perfect in ads as newbie.

Thank you

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Ask friends and family if you can advertise on their accounts. Or check blackhatworld for farmed ones!


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If you want to pursue WH definitely look for a friend/family account (if same geo) to save on the IP/connection hassles

You have appealed your account? Just write to the support and say what happened, if they reject the appeal do it again 4-5x

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@stickupkid and @maynzie why don't you guys Make tutorial to farm facebook accounts so we as newbee can try it and save money because others are selling account like $400 to $700 per account.

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The price for premium accounts (Real rentals etc) are about those prices for everyone, unless you have volume deals etc or negotiate prices (USA/UK *T1* being the higher end of the price, to lower end PH/Serbia/Montenegro being much more affordable but MUCH easier to ban or flag).

Gathering the accounts yourself will bring it down, but once again the workload increases, also the hassle of keeping the user on the hook if passwords change, and knowing how FB is these days any security risk will bring about password change request.

Maybe running a lead campaign on FB to incentivise people to rent their account for $xx... is a way to get them cheaper...

'Farming' accounts these days is a lot harder, even for the most experienced the lifetime is very small, its an upstream battle compared to years before hence hard to give a great tutorial on it. It requires time in warming them up (I believe its months for the people I know involved in it still) from creation to running first ads, the activity in between its a lot of task for a newcomber unless you systemise it with VA's.

I personally don't farm, otherwise I'd help more on the topic, we deal only with real accounts and the prices will be similar to you suggested already, depending on the geo and whether funding is involved or not is a % on top.

The next thing after the account is having enough funding methods, whether you have CC's to match the geo for postpaid billing or you can attach to a prepaid method like iDeal etc (which options change on which geo the account is based in)

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@dmudryi

My man, did you try appeal already? If you've done nothing wrong chances are quite high you'll get the account back still you just gotta keep appealing them, especially if its your real aged FB account and still low spend

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@maynzie, I appealed two accounts. One got unlocked, second is still banned with message:

"Hi,

I had a look at your ad account and unfortunately we won't be able to re-enable it.

All ad accounts are evaluated for policy compliance and quality of ad content. Due to your ad account consistently promoting ads that don't comply with our Advertising Policies or other standards, the ad account has been disabled.

I suggest taking a look at our e-learning Blueprint module to better understand our Advertising Policies.
You can access the module via this link - https://www.facebookblueprint.com/student/activity/170324-ad-policies-for-content-creative-and-targeting
- (%reviewer_name%)"

Sent another appeal. Yeah it is my aged account with low spend.

I concerned with this situation: Imagine you have your business on FB and account got banned, I don't want to wait minimum 3 days or longer for appealing my account. Then I make some changes and if everything seems to be fine getting another ban and wait again for 3 or more days cause FB is unpredictable.

They also banned me when I tried to add my credit card instead of paypal as usual cause they didn't liked my credit card and I appealed it 3 times with success but lost one week and returned back to paypal account.

I also tried to farm two accounts, but I think because of two weeks inactivity accounts were blocked. They were alive for about 2 months.

Maybe it depends on country which may by not in good trust with FB. I think it's definetly needed more traffic sources to learn for safety.

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i'm on similar situation , my problem is i don't have any personnal facebook accounts : ) , so i was using one that i used for different business purposes , but no friends , no pictures.

I don't know if re-enabling my real account will doable , it's been years that it's inactive , then i have to deal with fingerprint and stuff.

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may i know where is these accounts gets sold for that much high price ?
if it's really sold for that much high price, i could make a business out of it.

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Yo man, we don't really condone the selling of accounts on the forum and there is no particular marketplace.

Considering the price/logisitics/undergroundness of it all its mostly through word of mouth/reputation

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not even trying to buy or sell in the forum, i wont risk my reputation for it.
thank you for info though.

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Well done,

Now after appealing ad account 3 times seems like FB turned off ability to appeal that account...there is no accounts in the list:



Account lost forever? I chose option "No" and entered my account id and appealed again. Will check soon

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Thats been happening more often lately where ad account disappears, How much spend was on the account (total in USD) before it flagged for policy violation?

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Same thing happened to be once , and i've been able to re-enable that account at the time

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@maynzie, Zero spent. That account FB always didn't like cause of my CC. It asked me 3 times to verify my payment information and I successfully confirmed it after ad approval. Seems like they have trigger on CC which they can't turn off.

PayPal for another account and connected same CC working for FB. So using only PayPals now and will try another CC for fun.

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Ahhh so your account was done for unusual activity not policy?

CC same country as your account geo? Maybe the BIN is recognised by FB, never used on another account before?

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Hi there,

Sorry for hijacking your thread but all of my ads were suddenly disapproved, resulting in my ad account being banned.

Don't quite understand the reason why because the ads that were disapproved were previously approved and I had paused all of them a few days ago so they weren't running any active traffic at the time of the ban.

According to FB, it was because of a "Destination URL Issue" but I have been playing it safe the whole time I ran my ads.

FYI, I was previously promoting a supermarket voucher offer with a relatively safe angle with an image of people buying groceries. I was also using a very simple 2 question survey (e.g. are you over 18? are you based in [geo]?) as my lander and I didn't use any brandings at all.

I've already appealed but have yet to hear back, so I was wondering if I should edit my ads (while waiting) to make it even safer?

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Nah don't do anything, you can't edit anyway if you're flagged - just wait for first response.

Since you had retro disapproval into flag I think you've got higher chance of getting account back from previous experience

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Thanks @maynzie. Fingers crossed that I would get it back soon.

I forgot to mention this earlier and I don't know if this triggered the ban - but right before the ban, I submitted a new camp for an ecom offer from GiddyUp where I was basically direct linking my ad to their offer pre-sell page (which they claimed to be FB compliant). However, looking back, the pre-sell page is an advertorial featuring Dr Oz..so not sure if that's the reason why.

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Direct linked to their domain? Could definitely been an issue, masking it via your own domain is always smartest way to protect accounts. Every single account we use has its own unique domain and we never cross any over

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Hmm..I'm not a very technical person lol but how would you do that? On the tracker side or do you CNAME it on the server side?

Edit: Not sure if this makes a difference but the ad -> offer still needs to go through my custom tracker domain.

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3 times for unusual activity and last time for policy. CC same country as account geo. CC is new and was never used in FB.

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Hurts to see how naive people approach Facebook Advertising anno 2019. Perhaps an idea to carefully study/read the FB policies FIRST - > start mediabuy after that process. Instead of just launching sweeps, direct linking and do other stuff Facebook doesn't like and be surprised they ban you?

This forum is mainly to help out people who are serious about AM (newbie or not) and want to invest time/energy/money. Not to answer all kind of questions which can be tackled if you just understand/read their policy just a little bit!

To make things clear, I am very PRO towards people acting/testing instead of asking/investigating all the time, but these basics are written everywhere yo.....

*in this post people summed up numerous of reasons why get banned/dissapproved by the way; https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...s-Your-Account

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Hi, as people her mentioned before, it's important to understand what will be your next campaign - BH or WH. if it's a WH - take another account from your family members.
If you are planning to jump into BH - it's the way more complicated.


I will elaborate here about BH, for those who may be interested.
Some verticals require aggressive marketing like Nutra and crypto offers. Running these verticals be ready to lose accounts every 1-2 weeks. If Mark Zuckerberg is in a bad mood, then it will be every 1-3 days.


Running the BH, your biggest challenge is ad accounts. Those who run on accounts that can’t spend at least $1k a day, waste their time. I don’t know a single publisher, who managed to scale on farmed accounts (Ad accounts that people sell for $1k with cc and VM). Even 4-5 months ago it was still possible to run with those accounts, today - it’s not.
So, the most critical issue is how can you generate FB accounts that are warmed up enough for at least $1k daily spent.


Note! Don't run aggressive verticals like crypto without having at least 6-10 accounts warmed up.

Bottom line!

You need accounts that can spend solid budgets and you need a lot of them! Otherwise, you won't be able to get your campaigns GREEN.

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"I don’t know a single publisher, who managed to scale on farmed accounts (Ad accounts that people sell for $1k with cc and VM)." Nice to meet you then, here I am haha!

We got several publishers doing xxxx a day on farmed accounts. The reason why accounts go down quickly is because people don't understand how to handle those accounts. Yes in the past it was better, but we live today and you have to adapt your strategies.

Why would you push boundaries and trive for a 1k spend on 1 account, if you can do 250 spend on 4 accounts divided? On the long term smarter;
- 4 accounts warming up at same time, gaining trust and passing by tresholds
- the lower your budget, the longer you can run on audiences, the more stable your cpc's will be
- if one goes down, 3 still blazing -> impact on volume loss very low

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@stickupkid I'm talking about my personal experience. Splitting the budget between few accounts makes sense. But in my case (I run crypto) campaigns won't be effective.
1 lead can cost me $30-$80. Fb Pixel won't work properly with only a few leads generated. So, there\s no point for me to run on small budgets with aggressive ads. I will get banned anyways, so in this case, I prefer to spend as much as possible.
I run on agency accounts, I can spend a solid budget there.

do you know anyone who runs crypto with farmed accounts and manages to scale?

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In essence, running crypto, casino, sweeps or other BH stuff doesn't really matter. It's about 1) not triggering FB to checkout your account 2) gain good interaction on your ads. I have seen guys doing sweeps on low budget getting banned, I have seen guys doing very dirty stuff on farmed account with big budgets.

Could be luck, but I am sure if you really take care of your accounts and ads carefully, you can run anything on a long term on (farmed) accounts. Fair point on the pixel thing, perhaps rely less on pixels, but try subtle creative ads + LLA's. Perhaps you loose some margins, but on the long term it will safe stress/time/energy. But maybe I am happy with less ;-) compared to you/others ofcourse.

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I completely agree that the only guarantee in BH is the ban of account but also same as stickupkid, have made lower tier accounts work and know quite a few who do as well (numbers game can never depend on 1,2,3 accounts has to be upwards of 20-30 minimum at a time). But just the last week or two its hit a roadblock, cyclical seems to always occur at end of quarters my skype/telegram blows up with queries then all of a sudden come new quarter everyone quiet.... busy making money :P"

- But yeah we have definitely focused on shifting away from them and more into reliable accounts (Rented real user + CC) as they're much stronger and less headaches

$1k for those accounts is also a lil pricey, you can find much better deals out there. Agency is the best though, the dream life of accounts sir you're living :P

Yep for sure I do, although its harder then ever before (but just as above the last 2 weeks the first accounts to crumble is the lower tier accounts like farmed/prepaid etc)

But yes I imagine crypto is much harder to scale out with the big CPA's as you're not sure when an account looks like it'll be an early winner from the given metrics, we prefer to only run nutra/casino. Are you running tier 1 geos? We found it was a big upstream battle but switching to tier 2/3 has been much more comforting, especially in terms of nice ROI to offset those early bans and still recover account costs.

Key is fresh angles and always changing them up, we never run the same ads/adcopies across any 2 accounts everything is always fresh and doing a decent job on safepage content and warm ups. Anything to shift the risk flags to your favour, keeping pure WH campaigns alive against the BH (even $5/day spends etc). At the early stages week 1-3 for an angle its quite easy but you really notice decline in account length week 3-4 of angle - some even sooner now as it gets detected faster.

The problem that occurs a lot is the retro disapprovals early in the account spends, but then a quick safe ad relaunch and wait for spend then back to BH seems to work in most cases.

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Whoops missed this part, but in a mastermind with a couple guys who run crypto but issues have definitely come up in last few weeks, but before that Jan/Feb were doing absolutely fine (but fine is still relative to farmed/prepaid, farmed/cc performance compared to what you expect from agency or Rental/CC)

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Thanks @stickupkid @maynzie for your invaluable inputs and advices.

I'm quiet new to FB and a lot of your comments makes a lot of sense to me , as i'm experiencing my first accounts bans after making my first record ROI campaigns , and dealing with operation's volatility bring a lot of stress , the decision making process defo depends on the outlook someone have on the industry as a whole , and the trade-off between ROI / Account longetivity is not easy without referential metrics.

For some accounts i tried to appeal , but there response is that they can't re-enable the accounts "For Now" , without sending using the words "Final Decision" , don't know if it can be related to their processes , that is changing depending on supply/demand of the market given that the end of the quarter with a lot of budgets been rolled out.


How are you dealing with fingerprint tracking in case of rented account ?

I also noticed that in same accounts i've been banned really quickly even with a lot of precautions , just because i triggered manual review with really high CTR , due to substle users call-out even on small budget , they certainly use "anomaly detection" techniques such as standard deviation analysis , to prioritize campaigns manual review , basically 2 standard deviations is enough to trigger that , i've been systematically experiencing that.

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