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How to get a new ADCENTER account? Harder than Adwords! (35)

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Ok so i had a pretty stable adcenter account and forgot that my CC on it ended up being closed, so adcenter tried to charge me around 2k for my traffic but it never went through..


so what the hell, i decide to make another account with adcenter... did all new login on my comp, change of IP, new CC and name / address...


BUT they have ALWAYS been catching me! i did this around 3 times and each time after a few days of a campaign running i get "sign in process is disabled, please contact support" error when i try to login to my account.....

how are they tracking me???



some ideas:

my CC is similar.. as in the first like 3 sets of 4 numbers... 1111 1111 1111 are similar then the last ones are different...

my IP is similar... as in 111.111.

the other numbers in the IP change but not the first ones...



could that be it? facebook and google are completely fine with that thing being somewhat related....

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It seems unlikely to be card / IP related. Hate to ask the obvious, but...

Are you running the same campaign each time? I don't know if you're running something risky, but have you tried running the first few days with a very safe campaign, eg. for a local business?

Are you running each instance in a separate virtual machine (or taking similar measures to remove flash cookies / other tracking objects)?

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Microsoft's Silverlight Isolated Storage - ie silverlight cookies....

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EDIT: just had a good explanation and went to post and it didnt go through.. ughhh!!


anyways, long story short.. it might be my adcenter install... it said something like upgrading database [myusername] however i did delete all the LOCAL AND ROAMING files i could find about adcenter....

could that be it?

illl try making a new campaign and keep it manual this time. but anyone know exactly where all the files adcenter stores?

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Create a whole new account on your computer if you're using Windows, that should get rid of basically anything roaming/local/localrow to do with AdCenter.

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Thats what i thought as well.... but even AFTER that i can confirm that a new adcenter installation will say something like upgrading database [oldusername] when you try to login into the desktop tool... i kinda was like wtf when i first saw that and wondered how it got in there but i didnt bother with it since i didnt think it really matters since everything else is different... but im guessing this had to be it...

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UPDATE:

I did go ahead and make a new account once again to see, and i manually made a campaign for a local biz and added a few keywords... about a few hours later tried to login and got the invalid disabled message.....

WOW - so that means they did it by either matching the IP or CC numbers, even though not all of them are the same... either that or like my computer or something on it but i did make a new user account each time...


Thats crazy, anyone know what to do? Might just have to cough up 2k to get my account back..

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sign up on a diff computer (go to a friends house and use his), sign up with a diff name , new ip, new address, new email, new cc/ get a new hosting account , and new domain , that should do the trick

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Hmmmmm. Check out my threads from months ago:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...er-bein-banned
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...enter-Accounts

I have said/done everything you did, and MUCH MORE. It seems that I was the only one that had this prob (if you read the threads) (actually gts6 and spartan have experienced pain as well).

It would be nice to crack the bastards' secret, but until more of us have this prob its not going to seem real.

I've attacked the mobile world, starting with Alex's guidance, and moved on.

Mildly manic Ukrainiac

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"Microsoft's Silverlight Isolated Storage - ie silverlight cookies.... "

VirtualBox solve this? I ask as I've been using VB to no avail.

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yeah i could try that but eventually id have to login to it again on my main computer... but maybe it worth a try and have the campaign run a few days just so it gets past the review process and then they might not check up on it..

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damn so to me it seems almost impossible... what should i do? i owe them 2,800 bucks .. i really dont want to pay them that when i figured i could just make a new account but shit about to cave in!!

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Have you tried it on a completely new computer? They are much cheaper than 2,800. Also, what IP are you using? Are they IPs that you bought from your ISP?

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haha actually thats a good point about a new computer.. but i figured that it wasnt the case.. since i made a new 'account' / profile on my computer... meaning all cookies and everything should be cleaned off?

also my IP i manually change using my router with comcast... Like you go into your netgear or whatever.. and manually change the MAC address to some random numbers and letters... then if you check your ip, it will be different.....


but usually the first 5 or so digits are similar as in this 111.111. xxx. xxx or whatever the xxx's are all different numbers..

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You should try out a new computer, microsoft are tricky!

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Just get a Windows VPS... It's like $20 or less. In the event you do get banned, you're on a new Windows VPS with a fresh MAC address and IP.

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I was in a similar situation and used a windows vps but i also couldnt login after a day or two. I used a new real cc, made a dummy campaign, different address but didnt work.

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Vidivo and others, have you tried doing as the message instructs and contacting support?

I believe it is practically AdCenter's default now to disable new accounts. Why? I have no idea, but consider this...

I have a friend (runs a small local business) who had never used AdCenter before in his life. Never run any affiliate campaigns, never had an account banned, etc. This guy was as a clean as they come. He, too, received that message.

Call them. Act clueless and be persistant. Tell them you run a small local businesses and you've heard that your colleagues are having good results with search advertising. What's the worst that could happen?

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Did that.

And yes they have told me AFTER calling them that you MUST call them within 48 hrs to get your billing verified (or you get the email of death.

Soooo, I have called them each of the lasts 7 times I opened a new acct. They are sooo nice and tell me everything is fine.

Then, 'you have mail'.

This is after using virtualbox, new cc, phone, billing address, new ip. I start a campaign for a local business ( CC and business/campaign address have the same geo).

I am using the android to switch my IP. Ill try to use a proxy next.

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ccleaner can take care for the 'flash' cookies that MSN & Apple & google drop

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They shut down 90% of new accounts until you pick up the phone and call them. Do it, confirm a return phone call or email. Can also setup to pay with paypal, you can use the same paypal account over and over, just ad a new email into paypal.

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^This is how I USED to run the last 18months/8 accts. No mo.

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i've had 10++ adcenter acounts banned, 20++ adwords account banned.

For Adcenter.
use real CREDIT CARDS from different banks. Avoid PREPAID cards to open adcenter accounts.
Adcenter recognises cards from Entropay (VCC) and other Prepaid cards.
use VMWARE and real CREDIT CArds

For Adwords.
u can use PREPAID CARDS on Adwords, but no VCC. Most people will still get Banned because Adwords tracks beyond IP, Credit Card, Cookies, Flash Cookies.
Past banned domains, sensitive niches etc..

For longevity with Adwords, instead of clickbank, CPA links, its better to push products not found in the affiliate world, or links that
adwords is familiar with, tracking 202 links etc...

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You are talking about these VCCs, not a VCC 'number' from a real CC, right?

Do you know if adcenter tracks by 'name', as getting a new cc is not hard, but its always in my name.

If tracking with 202 is a red flag, how do non-affiliates track? I have 202 and CPVlab.

Thanks

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VCC - Virtual Credit Card

adcenter does not track by name.
one thing about adcenter is - when they feel there is unauthorised access of an account,
the account can get hung. trying to have support regain access to this account can take 3 to 5 days,
and that is alot of revenue lost. so its better to start a new adcenter account while liasing with
adcenter support to un-suspend the account.

and if they claim the identity cannot be verified, the account will remain hung as determined
by the adcenter anti fraud system.

These days, I access my adcenter accounts from the same computer, IP used to open the account.

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tracking
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for adwords, i track with adwords conversion tracking.

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firefox addon - 'Better Privacy' (for removing 'super' cookies).

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Where is the best place to get get a windows VPS im sure it's mentioned somewhere but I can't find it.

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i finally got an adcenter account working. all you need is a real CC and only the post code needs to match the cc. everything else can be anything you want it to be. I read about it on other threads here so it defineately works. no need for vps. rebooting router that has dynamic ip works fine.

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hi. I have a quick question about opening a new msn adcenter account. I want to do this right I don't want to waste a card. So I opened a new bank account & got a new credit card. When I enter in my info can I use my own name & address. Can I use the name and address I used previously but just with a new card. If I just make something up how will they be able to charge my card with a incorrect name and address.

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name and address - can make something up.

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Finally got an adcenter account to not get banned. My last question is can I use the same affiliate link with this new account. Does adcenter track by domains or affiliate links.

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u can get away with it, but i recommend start afresh.

new domain, new content on lander.

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Actually.. this might be a stupid question.. But since we have a support number, couldn't we just call in, get a person to "verify" the account and revert it back for us?

What i mean is for the NEW accounts that we're creating but still got banned, due to IP issues whatsoever..

Just asking..

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When using prepaid cards, can you use any zip code? And are any prepaid cards okay? Green dot for example? Any you recommend?

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try to match the zip code.

so when u register the prepaid card, make sure its right from that moment and write down the identity details.

its good practice especially when u start to scale by running multiple accounts on multiple computers.

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