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Want More Chrome Push Subscribers? (26)


01-16-2019 05:07 PM #1 Mr Green (Administrator)
Want More Chrome Push Subscribers?

Disclaimer: I don't usually post blatant promotional post like this, but I know it's of high value and time sensitive.

If you are building your own Chrome push subscriber database then you need to jump onto advertizer.

There are 200 million clicks/day to tap into. That traffic is converting like crazy on push subscriber campaigns.

It literally takes a few minutes to start building your push database.

All you need to do is bid the amount you want to pay per subscriber.

Then let advertizer do the rest.

I promise you it's that simple!


01-19-2019 03:11 PM #2 marlonp (Member)

What is a good service to host a push list? I assume you need a website and push service to start building a list?


01-19-2019 04:21 PM #3 Mr Green (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by marlonp View Post
What is a good service to host a push list? I assume you need a website and push service to start building a list?
Onesignal.com is solid and quick to setup.


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01-20-2019 01:58 PM #4 dominium ()

Any recommendations regarding flow? What type of landers work well?

I got a sweeps lander and it's kinda 50/50.

Thanks!


01-20-2019 03:08 PM #5 Mr Green (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by dominium View Post
Any recommendations regarding flow? What type of landers work well?

I got a sweeps lander and it's kinda 50/50.

Thanks!
I don’t want to out any specific landers but if you check Adplexity or Spypush you will be able to see a bunch of them.



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01-20-2019 06:43 PM #6 dominium ()

Ya just which lander works depends on traffic; but OK I'll try a few. Thanks!


01-21-2019 01:15 AM #7 smoochy (Member)

Does anyone have any direction regarding creating your own push-notification collection/messaging platform?

Onesignal was easy to setup, but I am a little confused regarding their plans, as their started plan is described as "The starter plan allows you to message up to 30,000 of your subscribed users for the base rate of $99/mo. ". Does this mean you can only send 30k push notifications per month for that price?


01-21-2019 05:59 AM #8 erikgyepes (Moderator)

I wonder what flow works best for you guys to collect push subs?

Do you send them to the special lander via back button?

Or do you implement the collection into your current landers?

I tried the latter approach and it lowered my CR on that lander by 50% (I did split test of LP with subs collection and without).

Have the list though and can make it up in the backend in the longterm though.

But wonder what approaches works best out for you?


01-21-2019 06:54 AM #9 4964420454t (Member)

I'm currently running dating campaigns with subs collection implemented into my current LPs and it works just fine for me (i've split-tested LPs as well and I didn't see a big difference in CR and CTR).
But there's a lot of guys who collect subs with "are you 18 years old?" LPs where they just ask you to confirm age by pressing subscription button


01-21-2019 09:27 AM #10 Mr Green (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by erikgyepes View Post
I wonder what flow works best for you guys to collect push subs?

Do you send them to the special lander via back button?

Or do you implement the collection into your current landers?

I tried the latter approach and it lowered my CR on that lander by 50% (I did split test of LP with subs collection and without).

Have the list though and can make it up in the backend in the longterm though.

But wonder what approaches works best out for you?
You can do it one of two ways:

1. Create a dedicated lander to collect subscribers. Then once they subscribe you can can redirect them to a campaign.

Some people even subscribe single users to multiple lists.

2. Collect subs on current campaigns.

As you said this can heavily impact on your CR. So you have to work some maths in there and see if it's worth while. It really depends on your campaign, country etc.


Quote Originally Posted by smoochy View Post
Does anyone have any direction regarding creating your own push-notification collection/messaging platform?

Onesignal was easy to setup, but I am a little confused regarding their plans, as their started plan is described as "The starter plan allows you to message up to 30,000 of your subscribed users for the base rate of $99/mo. ". Does this mean you can only send 30k push notifications per month for that price?

Check out this thread https://stmforum.com/forum/showthread.php?43112-what-is-the-best-platform-for-collecting-your-own-push-traffic


01-22-2019 04:02 AM #11 erikgyepes (Moderator)

Thank you for the answer, sir!

Subscribing to multiple lists is sick!


01-22-2019 07:17 AM #12 Mr Green (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by erikgyepes View Post
Thank you for the answer, sir!

Subscribing to multiple lists is sick!
Yeah, what's working well now is asking people to subscribe to 3 different lists (reload a new pop up each time a user accepts) then on the third approval redirect them to an offer.


01-22-2019 12:53 PM #13 osmiumman (Member)

I have a feeling that asking people to click OK to see pics a nude girl living next door, then asking them to click OK if they really want to see the pics, then asking them if they are 18+ to really really see the pictures, and after they signed up for 3 push lists without really giving their "real" consent to be added to 3 push lists, which then leads to someone sending them daily push notifications, won't last long. I don't think Google (Chrome) will tolerate this in the mid-term.


01-22-2019 01:06 PM #14 Mr Green (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by osmiumman View Post
I have a feeling that asking people to click OK to see pics a nude girl living next door, then asking them to click OK if they really want to see the pics, then asking them if they are 18+ to really really see the pictures, and after they signed up for 3 push lists without really giving their "real" consent to be added to 3 push lists, which then leads to someone sending them daily push notifications, won't last long. I don't think Google (Chrome) will tolerate this in the mid-term.
That is a very aggresive angle which definitely won't last.


01-23-2019 04:26 AM #15 erikgyepes (Moderator)

^^^

Browser push notifications: a feature asking to be abused

The website visitors are led to believe that they have to click “Allow“ to see the video. In fact, if they click the “Allow” button, they will be redirected to another website, sometimes asking yet again to allow notifications, but meanwhile their clicking has allowed this site to show them notifications. And, mind you, the site does not have to be open in the browser for the notifications to pop up. As you can see, the fact that you are allowing notifications is a bit less clear in the Chrome prompt than it is in Firefox.
https://blog.malwarebytes.com/securi...asking-abused/


01-24-2019 01:07 PM #16 Mr Green (Administrator)

^^ No doubt like with any new marketing/ad unit regulation will sort things out.


01-24-2019 03:08 PM #17 aero (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Mr Green View Post
Disclaimer: I don't usually post blatant promotional post like this, but I know it's of high value and time sensitive.

If you are building your own Chrome push subscriber database then you need to jump onto advertizer.

There are 200 million clicks/day to tap into. That traffic is converting like crazy on push subscriber campaigns.

It literally takes a few minutes to start building your push database.

All you need to do is bid the amount you want to pay per subscriber.

Then let advertizer do the rest.

I promise you it's that simple!
Why is Advertizer an interesting place to build your own subscriber base?

Is it because of the pricing model?

Or just because they allow such promotion?


01-24-2019 04:18 PM #18 Mr Green (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by aero View Post
Why is Advertizer an interesting place to build your own subscriber base?

Is it because of the pricing model?

Or just because they allow such promotion?
Yep exactly, it's because of the pricing model.

The bidding is automated so you will get subscribers for a guaranteed price instead of watching over your manual bids 247.


01-24-2019 08:36 PM #19 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by Mr Green View Post
^^ No doubt like with any new marketing/ad unit regulation will sort things out.
Yup, I bet the regulations will be rolled out soon ... people should realize that if they abuse the format to much, they will draw unwanted attention ... from browser developers for example. Better play it safe and for the long term, then to push it like crazy and cause some overall ban.


01-24-2019 08:48 PM #20 johner911 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by matuloo View Post
Yup, I bet the regulations will be rolled out soon ... people should realize that if they abuse the format to much, they will draw unwanted attention ... from browser developers for example. Better play it safe and for the long term, then to push it like crazy and cause some overall ban.
They don't really need regulations. its just 3 browsers, they can just silently implement some notification suppresion mechanism.. either on level of browser on or level of OS
and I think some mechanism is already implemented. non-engaging notifications are blocked on os/browser level.. after some time.. from certain publishers.

Its really a simple and painless algorithm to make.. and best way to do it is similar to Isps and emails.. just silently.. block shit..without notifications
for stuff that appears heuristically or whatever abusive.. .. here's just 1 simple rule that blocks 99% of crap and leaves 99% of legit without woes.

IF frequency of notification from domain is more than 1x per week.. block domain..
Presto..spam solved.


01-24-2019 10:50 PM #21 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by johner911 View Post
They don't really need regulations. its just 3 browsers, they can just silently implement some notification suppresion mechanism.. either on level of browser on or level of OS
and I think some mechanism is already implemented. non-engaging notifications are blocked on os/browser level.. after some time.. from certain publishers.

Its really a simple and painless algorithm to make.. and best way to do it is similar to Isps and emails.. just silently.. block shit..without notifications
for stuff that appears heuristically or whatever abusive.. .. here's just 1 simple rule that blocks 99% of crap and leaves 99% of legit without woes.

IF frequency of notification from domain is more than 1x per week.. block domain..
Presto..spam solved.
Well, that would be a regulation though, nope? And I'm sure they will implement something once enough users start complaining, let's see how it turns out in a few months.


01-25-2019 09:54 AM #22 dominium ()

Once per week per domain? Good Lord... that would be insane. I can see them maybe limiting to eg. 3/day but 1/week?


01-25-2019 11:32 AM #23 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by dominium View Post
Once per week per domain? Good Lord... that would be insane. I can see them maybe limiting to eg. 3/day but 1/week?
I guess that was just a wild guess from johner. Hard to say how much the users are bombarded with the messages, so many websites are collecting he permissions, for some it might get quite nasty I assume. I guess we will see pretty soon.


01-25-2019 01:54 PM #24 osmiumman (Member)

There's no need for regulation, the browser and OS companies will take care of this themselves.

A useful feature from a user perspective would be to "unsubscribe" easily from such notifications on a domain level, just with a link below the push notification. I'm pretty sure this is coming, as currently it's almost impossible to unsubscribe from a list on Windows.


01-25-2019 08:29 PM #25 johner911 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dominium View Post
Once per week per domain? Good Lord... that would be insane. I can see them maybe limiting to eg. 3/day but 1/week?
Its the same as with emails.. Which reputable brand.. spams its users with 3/day notifications ?
Even newsmax.. does only 1 per day..

Its per domain.. not per total nr of notifications.. Tho even that filter is feasible.. just drip the engaging ones thru.. supress others..

Its not something unheard of..
I made a shitload of money on notifications in apps.. when that was still allowed in play store..
They killed it hard and fast.. Entire networks such as airpush and leadbolt.. needed to change their business models.. and dropped revenue like hell.

Anyway... the end is coming.


04-30-2019 01:34 PM #26 londonstacker (Member)

Is there some kind of step by step guide on how to set up an Advertizer campaign for this kinda thing?

I want to build a push database, but struggling with Advertizer. If there is a step by step on how to set things up, newb friendly, that would be useful, thanks.

And also how would I do this -> what's working well now is asking people to subscribe to 3 different lists (reload a new pop up each time a user accepts) then on the third approval redirect them to an offer.

Is that three different push services? Or 3 lists on the same account?

Cheers


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