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01-05-2019 04:35 PM #1 dominium ()
Read this before using MEGAPU.SH

I've spent nearly $50K on ads at Megapu.sh and although in general I was quite satisfied with:
+ fast approval times
+ decent choice of deposit methods
+ low traffic prices

There are some things I recommend watching out for and which I consider as a SCAM.

PS. I've reached out to them about these issues at least 3 times and even contacted their person on STM - no use. Just bullshit bullshit bullshit and no action.

1) Don't expect to receive the GEO that you're paying for.

Biggest problem. I have multiple USA campaigns. Wonder why they keep their US prices fairly low compared with some other networks? Cause they fill up their traffic with non-US clicks!

Just today: 3380 clicks in (that I paid for) out of which - wait for it - 2200 are US with the rest being Pakistan, India etc.

Last 7 days: 82k in, 17k (that's about $1020 at their CPC!) are non-US.


2) Apparently they take zero responsibility for their "feeds".

I was spending about 2.5-3K USD per day and then suddenly I have a day with 5K+ spent and really shitty ROI. Hmm I look into Voluum and I see that "feed22" sent me tens of thousands of clicks at a -99,5% ROI and something like 0,5% CTR (my average is about 20%). I contact MegaPush asking for a refund for OBVIOUSLY bot/fraudulent traffic - nope, forget about it. Since it's not the "official mega push feed" they take zero responsibility for the fact that whatever this "feed" is - it scammed me out of nearly $3000 in one day.


So all in all - a cool push source but expect to pay double due to dubious, pathetic tactics and inexistent support.


PPS. After nearly a month, nothing moved forward, please see my posts below for additional info/proof:

Quote Originally Posted by dominium View Post
I still got nothing from them, not even a reply so more info for you guys:

PURE $3000 SCAM:

The image below is on a US-only campaign. Notice that it's not just "other geos" - it's pure bullshit traffic!

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ID:	20482Stay away from MegaPush, OR calculate about 20-30% additional cost over the CPC they lie about!
Quote Originally Posted by dominium View Post
It gets better - back in December I was still using their other "feeds", because hey I thought why not.

One day I wake up and I had nearly $5K in spend on 'feed23' with near-zero CTR (normally 15-20%) and essentially everything saying its either fraud or some junk pop traffic.

Do I get compensated? Of course not! Feeds = fraudulent traffic at Megapush and of course, they're not responsible for fraud on their platform, as I guess it's built around that concept:

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01-05-2019 04:46 PM #2 mrbraun (Moderator)

Hey, man!

Thank you for your thread.

First of all I totally agree:

+ fast approval times
+ decent choice of deposit methods
+ low traffic prices
One of the best Push sources.

Don't expect to receive the GEO that you're paying for.
Do you see this in US only or in all GEOs you run? I'm not running US from the, but I just checked my camps and I see that about 2% of traffic comes from other GEOs.

Apparently they take zero responsibility for their "feeds".
I agree that sources should keep an eye and check the quality of their feeds. But sometimes they forget or don't want to do this. And the better way is to check your data and turn off bad feeds. Don't spend too much until you check the quality. From feed22 I also see bad CTR, but it still gave me leads.

But what they told you about all these questions? I know they have good support and probably they will answer us in this topic.


01-05-2019 05:10 PM #3 eurosen (AMC Alumnus)

For me feeds 2 and 23 have been absolute crap across multiple geos.

In general I have my doubts about how they get their subscribers. Most sources seem to trick users into subscribing by using fake download or play now buttons.

These type of subscibers are imo pretty much worthless and there is not much of a difference in targeting them via pop or push as they both are shown an unwanted and unexpected ad.


01-06-2019 02:57 PM #4 erikgyepes (Moderator)

Also be careful with bid changes when you change anything in campaign like device type or block feeds.

They simply max out the bid and when you hit save, you pay the higher bid.

Also careful with big geos, they can easily overspend. One day I wake up to negative account balance.

Otherwise mixed results, they have good volume and prices for sure, just careful with these things.

As for feeds I think it's better to go directly to sources and get full targeting options etc..

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01-06-2019 03:14 PM #5 euforio (Member)

Their ISP/carrier targeting is also a total nightmare


01-06-2019 09:27 PM #6 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

I was spending about 2.5-3K USD per day and then suddenly I have a day with 5K+ spent and really shitty ROI. Hmm I look into Voluum and I see that "feed22" sent me tens of thousands of clicks at a -99,5% ROI and something like 0,5% CTR (my average is about 20%). I contact MegaPush asking for a refund for OBVIOUSLY bot/fraudulent traffic - nope, forget about it.
You should definitely get a refund for this ... especially when you can prove the extremely low traffic quality with some traffic data.

I'm 100% sure they have their ways of getting a refund from the "feeds" they are using.


01-07-2019 12:32 AM #7 proteinbrie (Member)

$50k, not bad. We probably sell a good $150k worth of our push per month. Our biggest buyer is paying $30k per month I mean, who knows... you could be buying from one of our traffic brokers

Geo targeting is very simple. They are def. screwing around with you there. For every US subscriber I have, there are 20-30 from PK, IN, VN, VE, etc.

However, carrier or ISP targeting is not so simple... Someone who can provide that capability probably planned on selling it "half assed" in the first place. At the end of the day, the offers that convert well on push are geo restricted and not so much ISP... but then again what do I know... I just spend my time running $12 dating PPLs all day.


01-11-2019 07:01 AM #8 letscpa (Member)

Any updates on getting a refund? As far as I know megapush guys are rather loyal to their advertisers. I'm sure they will try to negotiate things if you can prove that the traffic quality was shitty.


01-11-2019 07:54 AM #9 Megapush (Member)

Yes, we are loyal to every advertiser in our network. We are looking for a solution for each issue that advertisers have by using our system. But, yes, we aren't responsible for other feeds, so, if you can prove that traffic was bad, there were bots, and you can send us all information about that clicks: IP addresses, click time, click quantity, even user agent if you have it in your tracker. We need all this information to show feed owner and solve this issue, or any other issues like these.
So, you can contact support with all information, then, feed owner must solve his traffic issues and make compensation.


01-12-2019 10:43 AM #10 yovoyov (Member)

Quite a tricky source.
1) I can also add to be careful while editing campaign through mobile. Turns up it wont take your device settings that were saved before and when you hit save it will save to all devices and in result bring you unwanted traffic.
2) I had a bug where for one long time running campaign it stopped taking into consideration my IP range cuttings which resulted in overspending. Still waiting for them to check what happened.
3) Be careful with time ranges! If you leave the upper range to 00:00 it wont save any time range because as they claim "00:00" is not valid hour of the day. You wont see any warning that time range wont be saved or something.
Overall they got traffic but its tricky and they are not cooperating much.


01-12-2019 11:15 AM #11 erikgyepes (Moderator)

2) I had a bug where for one long time running campaign it stopped taking into consideration my IP range cuttings which resulted in overspending. Still waiting for them to check what happened.
I think there it takes like 4 hours until the changes are reflected, same goes when you lower bids..

So yeah pretty tricky as you said

Dark patterns


01-12-2019 01:10 PM #12 dominium ()

Still receiving 20% of my daily traffic from the official Megapush feed as non-US (Pakistan, India etc.) yesterday morning woke up to 6k US clicks, 2k non-US for which I was charged as US and of course got zero revenue.

As for the feed - I'll gladly send over traffic details, but where?

Thanks


01-15-2019 01:17 PM #13 voluum (Veteran Member)

I can see you’re using our Voluum tracker and I thought that you may want to better understand your traffic. If so, then you’re more than welcome to test our Anti-fraud Kit functionality.

Maybe the traffic coming from the suspicious feed originates from data centers (in this case it gets marked with “from known data centers”). It may also be marked with other available metrics – see my screenshot.

We also have a Traffic Log feature that you can use as a proof when claiming a refund from your Traffic Source.

Anyway, one of our Product Manager will be happy to connect with you and talk it thru. Just let me know, thanks!
Justyna


01-17-2019 09:08 PM #14 theronin (AMC Alumnus)

Hi,

I too have experienced the same with MegaPu.sh

I suspected they're frauds with their hard platform to use and terrible customer service. Once you write to complain it's a losing battle with the same response.

Last, i had a camp that stopped over 1 month ago that just started to receive traffic that spent a portion of the remaining balance in my account. I wrote them asked WTF how did this happen? They said did you change anything in the campaign? Nope haven't ran it in over 1 month. In the end i think they're scrubbing people's accounts here and there with old campaigns.


01-18-2019 04:38 PM #15 4964420454t (Member)

Last week, traffic dropped sharply
The network has significantly increased the top bid, but at the same time, the envelope just fell


01-22-2019 06:43 PM #16 dominium ()

Just BTW still no answer from support regarding getting $5K worth of spam traffic from feed23, receiving 20% of "US" traffic as nonUS (Pakistan etc) and such


01-23-2019 02:37 AM #17 William Yang (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dominium View Post
Just BTW still no answer from support regarding getting $5K worth of spam traffic from feed23, receiving 20% of "US" traffic as nonUS (Pakistan etc) and such
Oh, that's big amount spam traffic, you should get refund!


01-23-2019 07:34 AM #18 dominium ()

Sure I should, but so far all I've gotten is no reply at all


01-23-2019 08:19 AM #19 codeflame ()

Quote Originally Posted by dominium View Post
Just BTW still no answer from support regarding getting $5K worth of spam traffic from feed23, receiving 20% of "US" traffic as nonUS (Pakistan etc) and such
i give you a hint how i get my money back 2-3 month ago when i discovered it.

just show them their bnewsb.com site and the vpns(vultr/digitalocean/ovh) they fire on it for fake clicks. its nearly always 20% thats why i only work with ip-ranges there. That this stuff isnt push at all is self explaining. There only propeller is the cleanest site with push without such dumbass tricks.


01-23-2019 12:39 PM #20 erikgyepes (Moderator)

OK so here we go again.

Started a small test campaign, set it a $20 budget.

It got approved and clicks started flooding like crazy.

At the moment I'm at $500+ spend, campaign is long time stopped by admin, spend is still growing.

They said traffic will be coming even if I delete the campaign.

So nothing I can do here, no refund of course as well.

Very bad experience with this traffic source.

Worst traffic source experience ever!

Watch out!


01-23-2019 02:05 PM #21 Mr Green (Administrator)

Is anyone in talks with their staff at all?


01-24-2019 06:13 AM #22 erikgyepes (Moderator)

I got refund and the case is now resolved.

I wrote more about that in this thread and also gave some tips that I got/learned, read more here: https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post363451


01-24-2019 09:25 AM #23 dominium ()

I still got nothing from them, not even a reply so more info for you guys:

PURE $3000 SCAM:

The image below is on a US-only campaign. Notice that it's not just "other geos" - it's pure bullshit traffic!

Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Screenshot 2019-01-24 at 11.18.26.png 
Views:	163 
Size:	487.2 KB 
ID:	20482Stay away from MegaPush, OR calculate about 20-30% additional cost over the CPC they lie about!


01-24-2019 09:33 AM #24 dominium ()

It gets better - back in December I was still using their other "feeds", because hey I thought why not.

One day I wake up and I had nearly $5K in spend on 'feed23' with near-zero CTR (normally 15-20%) and essentially everything saying its either fraud or some junk pop traffic.

Do I get compensated? Of course not! Feeds = fraudulent traffic at Megapush and of course, they're not responsible for fraud on their platform, as I guess it's built around that concept:

Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Voluum_-_the_ultimate_performance_marketing_platform.png 
Views:	95 
Size:	554.7 KB 
ID:	20483


01-24-2019 10:01 AM #25 codeflame ()

you didn`t read what i wrote and gave you as a hint or? This analyse data is crap and useless you need to analyse bei ISP!


01-24-2019 01:07 PM #26 dominium ()

Quote Originally Posted by codeflame View Post
you didn`t read what i wrote and gave you as a hint or? This analyse data is crap and useless you need to analyse bei ISP!
I did but they're not cooperating on this issue at any level; sure I can show them more proof which I will


01-30-2019 05:59 PM #27 theronin (AMC Alumnus)

Hey Guys,

I wanted warn you guys too not to buy traffic from Megapu.sh.

I had a campaign paused months ago and this is the 2nd time it's happened where the camp automatically turned itself on and depleted my balance of my account. I wrote a support ticket the 1st and 2nd time with customer service not answering me or taking me on a merry-go-round. It was horrible and ended up blaming it on me that i modified or activated the camp with no proof. I also experienced 30-40% clicks from different geos i had to pay for outside of my targeting when I had the camp active. I won't be depositing any more funds with them for sure.


01-31-2019 06:36 AM #28 erikgyepes (Moderator)

I don't want to feed the fire..

But features like these ... you actually must sit down and spend time to code them with intention...



This one is me trying to set budget limit to $20, but when I use TAB to move to the next field it immediately resets to 0 (ie. unlimited).

The workaround is to click away from the field using mouse/trackpad.


01-31-2019 06:43 AM #29 eurosen (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by erikgyepes View Post
I don't want to feed the fire..

But features like these ... you actually must sit down and spend time to code them with intention...



This one is me trying to set budget limit to $20, but when I use TAB to move to the next field it immediately resets to 0 (ie. unlimited).

The workaround is to click away from the field using mouse/trackpad.
That´s quite shocking to be honest.. It reminds me of those games you see at fairs where you are pretty much unable to win.

If there frontend is already this bad and they clearly try to trick their own customers.. It makes me wonder what dodgy methods they are using behind the scenes.

I ran a campaign with them over a month ago and had 40-50% less visitors in my analytics (google analytics) then what it stated in my Megapush account.

After asking their customer support they said that my analytics software was probably wrong and that it couldnt be their system.

So their system is better then Google Analytics?

It´s just one of a couple of bad experiences I have had with their system and support. Even though I have made some money using their traffic I have decided to stop using their system for now.


01-31-2019 06:53 AM #30 codeflame ()

Yes i stopped there now to after 200k spendings alone in DE. Since december my quality was never performing on the end for my Dating stuff. Even with ipranges and lesser fraud. Seems like all normal guys are saturated there.


02-01-2019 04:27 AM #31 sushiparlour (Member)

Yes I second the point about weird features where the budget limit changes or your bid defaults to top bid when you create a new campaign... Always always need to double check new camps once I set them up and they are in moderation.


02-16-2019 08:15 AM #32 Megapush (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dominium View Post
I did but they're not cooperating on this issue at any level; sure I can show them more proof which I will
We still haven't received the information about the exact IP addresses. Send them to support@megapu.sh and our team will answer you.


02-16-2019 09:04 AM #33 machix (Member)

Be cautious, be very cautious
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...ped-gt-1-MONTH!


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