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Hey guys - I hope you all are crushing it!

I'm not going to reveal too much as who knows who is reading (FB Police) + I don't want to mess the FB game up for everyone else either.

I'm fairly new to FB traffic but I've done a fair bit of research and reading before starting, however, I'm getting banned like a crazy person.

My campaign funnel is FB Page (testimonial based) --> FB Ad --> Safe Site (Solid top 3 Cloaker - Traffic Armor) --> Pre-Lander --> Offer

My landing pages do really well, I tested out having my link in comments and I was getting 50 to 70% conversions but the volume was extremely low to the extent it became pointless.

I'm running supermarket sweep offers -- Does anyone have advice on how I could improve my system to avoid the bans?

I've read through FB Ad policy and 'technically' I don't believe I'm breaking the rules with my cloaker helping as FB believes I'm linking to a sweep advice page (safe site) but still getting banned like crazy.

My only hurdle with FB atm is the bans, I'm confident once I learn how to overcome it I'll be okay but this is crushing by FB noob soul atm.

Once I get over this I plan on creating a follow along too.

I'd love to hear from the FB Gods of this forum on how I can make my ads more compliant.

Disclaimer: I've had to rotate my FB accounts + Ad accounts each time I've been banned but I kept the FB page the same as I was told this won't be an issue - if that advice was wrong please also let me know.

Feel free to DM me if needs be and I'm also happy to jump on a Skype. Cheers!

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You running on new accounts or aged ones? And what is the most common reason FB is giving you - policy violation or unusual activity? Could be your accounts are weak and then comes the ban hammer.

Other possible reasons;
- you are cloaking
- since FB doesn't like sweeps, your safe page might even not be so safe since you talk about sweeps?
- if the FB page is poluted with bans/ads being disabled, it might be on a "watch" list

And perhaps you find an answer here?
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...s-Your-Account

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The legend has arrived, so promptly aswell. Thanks for giving your input mate.

FB states policy violation.

I've reviewed the most common reasons why you get banned by FB and I would say it's either badly farmed account or payment method. (I'll DM you with more info on that as not best practice here).

As for other reasons, safe page is fairly safe and white hat friendly. However, FB page could be on the watch list. Going to amend my traffic armour settings upon recommendation from Ryan over there (awesome support team) and I'll clean VPS, FB account, FB page, domain then let you know if same issue occurs. If it does it will be payment or badly farmed account.

I'm getting excited and stress at the same time as I know my landers do serious damage based on short burst tests but the bans are a real pain in the....

I'll keep pushing as I'm not giving up on the FB goldmine just yet.

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Policy violation is mostly ad/lander/vertical related. Keep us up to date, might be some good learning for others too.

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Disclaimer: I've had to rotate my FB accounts + Ad accounts each time I've been banned but I kept the FB page the same as I was told this won't be an issue - if that advice was wrong please also let me know. * This could be a good reason

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Using a cloaker is only a tiny tiny wall in front of FB lol, that should never be the number 1 line of defence. If you get a manual review unless your safe page game is truly on point you're going to rekt man.

I promise sweeps is not by any means WH lol, its a very dark greyish tone... it may slip through at first but its pure cat mouse

You're just running the one FB page over and over to all ad acccounts?

Your FB page is testimonial based right, most likely going to seem sensationalised?

Anything outside of truly WH stuff you must be prepared for account bans, its just the game its 2018 lol FB Ai is probably learning at a way faster rate then we can even imagine.

Fact is FB operates on risk analysis, the more weighted risk factors you have the faster you're leading to policy/account bans. Be pro-active not reactive, reactive will lead you to headaches for sure...

You and countless, countless, countless others my friend :P

**only so much can ever be said publicly here**

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#1 - Your cloaker sucks, I'd avoid that like the plague (My opinion based on 10yrs experience and 5m+ on FB spending)

#2 - 100% of the time I try to reuse a page on a new ad account it gets banned, literally 100% of the time thus I don't do it nor would ever do it again.

#3 - How are you linking to your safe page? Direct link to the site or using a tracker URL? Always direct link to the safe page.

#4 - FB can spot a "safe page" from 20 miles away, their not stupid. If your safe page even remotely looks like a safe page, see ya in ban land.

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What cloaker do you recommend then?

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Hmmm testimonial FB page/post seems like it could be a bit too aggressive but I'm sure someone is killing it (MY DMS are open people)! I'll keep you posted as I change my angle with this one as I'm sure there a hundreds dying in silence. *cough* @stickupkid

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Ones that don't just allow you to signup and get started. The good ones cost more and very often require vouches from existing members.

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Yes I'm seeing that my FB page could be attracting the wrong attention - time to clean up that mess.



I believe my safe page looks like a genuine blog with circa 20 relevant pieces of content, not a half-arsed attempt but who knows. if you have safe page best practices that you're willing to share which I could be missing then please do let me know mate.

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Thanks for your honest thoughts - this did make me giggle a little.

It seems like you're vet with 5M spend on FB, was that pushing WH campaigns or GH/BH? Also was this cpa offers or traditional business if you don't mind me asking?

I won't be reusing dirty FB pages unless links are not in the ad which seemed to work ok but won't expand on that too much here.

Direct linking

How does one perfect the fine art of safe page building? I was pretty confident my safe page was good but I guess that was comparing it to other safe pages which may be the underlying problem with this one. What would you recommend as key assets for a safe page? Again, I understand if you don't want to share this publicly as FB seems to quite a touchy area understandably - feel free to DM if you'd like to suggest something privately.

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In regards to a safe page, some very basic rules/tips/opinions...

> Domain needs to be at least 31+ days old.

> Website shouldnt look like it was made in a day

> Templates are painfully obvious and cheap.

> Logic says that your not going to spend $20,000/mo to promote a page talking about cooking lasagna or dancing in the park, Facebook has picked up on the basic logic of "does this even make sense" Facebook also knows your advertisng to make money so ensure they see how your planning on making that money.


There are some providers out there and provide really awesome safe pages but their pricy.

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Yeah that Facebook police car going around with Facebook logos on the front doors, officers in FB uniforms, their blue handcuffs hanging on the back going around farms with black crop and arrest the owners is soon coming to a city near you

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Would you mind sharing a couple of names?



What others layers would you suggest using?

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Hi, sorry for post wrong thread
Which IMAGE ( paid or free) that you use in FB ads? and where to find them? (i'm newbie)

Thanks

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https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...s-2017-Edition

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Ok quick update - I've started generating some profits with Sweeps XX and one XXX day so far but also seen more bans (this is pretty standard now).

I've stopped cloaking and I've seen success with ad approvals + ads/landers which are not too aggressive.

Another thing I've learned is to increase campaign longetivity - do not touch live campaigns or do anything that leads to the dreaded 'in review' status. I've burnt some more accounts from making mediocre edits (changing URL parameters etc.).

I've also noticed that it's probably best not to touch campaigns within the first few days unless you're simply pausing poor performing adsets. However duplicating adsets, changing url parameters, adding new images or anything of that nature risks an early bedtime.

My plan going forward is to ensure my campaign set up allows for me to just pause adsets which are not performing so well vs. making edits.

If I see my campaign is working well I now focus on pausing all adsets and ad images with low CTC/high CPC - I save more advanced edits for a completely new ad account and campaign to reduce the risk of a ban and also spread bet running campaigns.

When it comes to scaling, is it best to do so within the same ad account or is it best to begin setting up new campaigns on fresh ad accounts/clean IPs.

Final question, when scaling are there best practices to avoid FB clamping down on all accounts at once? I know fresh IPs/Domains/Ad Copy/Ad Images are required but can you run with the same lander?

Feel free to DM anything if this is a bit too detailed for the forum.

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The way I usually do it, if I have something that is working very well on the account, I would raise the budgets to a decent amount and just leave it running. And at the same time move to the next account to duplicate it there. So if you have accounts go down that route.

Fresh domains/changed images/adcopy is generally best practice yes, especially if totally different account. Usually that becomes a bigger deal if you running many accounts though.
In the end the user interaction is extremely important- basically keep the "hate" down as much as possible. You can do that by fake shares, likes etc to encourage positive comments. You can do that, by answering comments etc. There are other ways to do it also.

What do you mean the same lander? Different domain, but same content?

Feel free to hit me up for more specific questions.

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Spreading is key to keep your volume and income stable. If one accounts goes down you have some decent backup to cover any losses. @nomadhustle, you can use the same lander yes, make sure it's on different domains per account tho'. If an account gets banned, the domain with it will be flagged too. If you run same domains on more accounts it's a piece of cake for FB to take the others down too ofcourse!

This also counts for using the same lander ofcourse, but I have never experienced any problems with that honestly.. How easy it is for FB to "read" a whole lander which is banned and find similar ones and take them down. Vary in all possible ways so FB won't find any patterns.

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