Recent AMC 6 week graduate. Hello everyone. (10)
Hello to everyone my friends. Just got done with the AMC course back in June. A lot of info and theory but going into detail. Just ran my 3 or 4th campaign and spent maybe $150-200 so far. Right now I am running 2 offer but no conversions. I have been running them 2 or 3 days now. I am direct linking and using funnel flux. They have about 5k to 15k visits and nothing. Should I cut these offers?
Have you checked to make sure all the links and tracking are set up correctly? There is a thread here about getting no conversions but I am on mobile so I can link it later.
Also, if they have spent more than 5x payout with no conversions, yes it might be time to cut and try another. But I would check to make sure the tracking is set up correctly before doing anything else.
Hello and thanks for the reply digitaldreamsktg .What would I be looking for when doing this? I am checking if the hits are coming through and they both have traffic coming in. I also checked both networks and I see the traffic coming in as well. I got my postback url and main url set up in funnel flux and zero park. Thanks.
Hey.
I was also part of the same cohort of 6wamc (user JoeK).
I do the same mistake also all over again (and many other stupid noob mistakes) but, If you ask for advice here, you should put more details. Its hard to help you when you give no details whatsoever and saying only that you are running a direct linking campaign and spent 200$....
I recommend you to read the Newbie guides here in the forum (from Vortex) or on the course "Extra Newbie Resources", there is all the information you need, about killing or keeping the camps.
Or to post like
1. What traffic source?
2. What Vertical?
3. Payout of the Offer?
4. is it POPs, MDSP or Facebook?
etc...
This should be the difference between free AM forums (like blackhatforum, Warriorforum) and STM, that you get high quality shit but in return, you should be ready to at least pretend to be on the level the others are.
As a guess, that you are running POPs with the Credit you have left on ZP or PropellerAds from the course - the direct linking offers wont most likely make you any money... The sooner you start to taking on the challenge (iknow, trust me) of trying out some Landing pages of your own etc, the sooner you will advance to XXX$ a day etc. (with an exeption - if you should be following FBqueens module that direct linking could work)...
Sorry if this seems rude.
Nice to see recent students here as well and hello JoeK. Yeah no problem its all good no offense and you are right I should put more details. I have read the newbie guides and that has helped me alot. Its says there to cut an offer if the offer does not convert after 5 x payout. I should know this but I got stuck somewhere reading or studying I guess.....
Here is more details.
Im running 2 camps on zero park. One vertical I would say is mobile offer soi subscription this payout is $4.55 and is on pops.This offer has about 19 k hits,
My 2nd offer is another mobile subscription one halloween one. That one is also pops and is 9 Euros payout and also has close to 18k hits.
Im guessing its also because of direct linking instead of using an LP. Even though the landers on these are not bad. Do you spy tools or just create your own?
Hi gustb34z and JoeK! I remember your usernames! How you guys doing? 
Gust - you've gone through the 6WAMC so must already know how to deal with landing pages. Direct-link can still definitely work, BUT you'll need to take the approach of testing a TON of offers by spending a very limited budget on each (5x payout). Basically spend a little bit of money on each offer and if you don't see promise right away, move on.
I start newbies off with direct-linking ONLY because it's easier to learn. But like kids going to kindergarten, the purpose is to prepare them to advance to elementary school, and not to stay in kindergarten forever.
So, I agree with JoeK - start using landers ASAP!
You mentioned payouts of $4+ and 9 euros - these are quite high payouts compared to most of the 1/2-click offers that are suitable for direct-linking. Not every offer can be direct-linked. If you're trying to direct-link to an offer that needs visitors to be pre-sold before landing on the offer, you could drive traffic til the cows come home and still not get any conversions.
What verticals are these offers in? And which tier geos? Let's start there.
Lastly - this post contains some useful links if you want to learn how to spy on Adplexity, rip landers and fix them up:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post324392
Hope that helps! And please continue to ask questions and update us on progress.
Amy
Yeppp...
(offtopic @Vortex - i got a home and finally got my first STM subscription 
- you guys, your instructions, mentality and mindset kick ass bigtime. you change lives!!!!!!!)
@gustb34z, definately Check out this post - and just copy the way he did it:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...book&utm_term=
Fuck direct linking, go guru!
Sorry for the delayed reply, cable guy cut my internet wire by accident.......so I was out for a few.
Hello Vortex I remember you as well. All is great just reviewing the videos and trying to get it going. Thanks for asking and yourself?
I took a look at that tutorial you or one of the other mods or admin posted in there. It shows how to make a simple mobile lander. Not bad I have to get back to that and review it. For now I cannot work with the Spy tools, they are out of my budget range . My best choice would be to create one from scratch? I also seen some you guys have in the resource section. Also yeah Zeno pointed that out that they convert better with a LP so I got to get this figured out.
I got advice from my AM's to start in tier 2/3 geos for beginners, it is less competition there. Im doing mobile offers like soi,doi 1 /2 click flows. The Vertical would be whats app subsciption(recent camp) and a meme maker offer(Poland, also recent) Thanks Vortex.
Decide on a couple of verticals you want to be focusing on in the next few months, then take out a subscription, rip a shit ton of landers in all different languages for each vertical, and you'll be all set for the next few months.
And don't even THINK about coming up with unique landers for now. Chances are they won't do as well as the popular ones that are in use right now. Those are tried and tested. I'm not saying you can't make better landers, but in the beginning you NEED some proven landers. If you run unproven offers with unproven landers (i.e. the ones you created that you have no matter whether they'll convert or not), you'll put yourself in a catch 22 situation where if nothing converts, you won't know which to blame.
The recommended approach would be: Test the most popular landers to find the best, then test variations and custom-made landers.
Don't try to save a couple hundred dollars just to end up wasting thousands.
Tier 2/3 geos sounds good. Tier 3/4 geos would be even better. Basically, try to stick with developing countries (as opposed to developed countries) and low payout offers (<$2 or better, <$1) and you can limit your losses while you're learning.
Amy
If its going to save me TIME and $$ , then this I have to get going. As of now though I can work with the newbie guide in the Landing Page Module. My budget is getting low. Right now I got the Funnel flux tracker,hosting,domain,vps,commando, so thats a monthly fee there. Working on saving some more budget here. I think you wrote it or some one else. Im going back to it. It says some have made it convert so maybe I can work with that.
For the vertical I had one in mind before I first started AMC. It not that popular and it not that many offers in networks. But they look like they are coming in, I did some research they are rolling in some within this niche/vertical.
1. Run proven landers with proven offers
2. I think I meant tier 3/4 ... stick to low payout offers and develop countries.
Thank you very much for the help, I will keep these in mind.
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