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11-15-2011 10:55 AM #1 mekb (Member)
Adwordszz Cloaking

Hi,

I am beginner with cloaking adwords, I have read a lot about it and I know you can make a lot of money if you know how to cloak.

But I can not find exactly how its done?

Can anyone help me with this ?


11-15-2011 03:53 PM #2 nusolutionz (Veteran Member)

first question? are you already experienced with running search traffic etc..if you're just starting out with affiliate marketing stay away from cloaking and learn the basics first..cloaking alone won't make you any money..you'll thank me later... i see so many guys that rip/copy uncompliants flogs trying to make a buck with cloaking adwords etc because somebody told them it's easy money...well you can make a lot of money if you do it RIGHT but in the worst case you'll get fucked by FTC and lose all your ppc accounts..and the worst thing is that you don't learn anything from it that makes you a better marketer. so if you're just starting out better stay away from it! you can also make a shitload of money without cloaking


11-15-2011 04:07 PM #3 vidivo (Member)

Noobs stay away from cloaking.


11-15-2011 05:01 PM #4 leeches (Member)

Would love to hear about a good google cloaker too. Please PM me if you don't want to post in the forum. I run a good amount on Google, all of which get's approved but a good look at my account could lose it for me. Adding an extra layer of security can't be a bad thing.


11-15-2011 06:06 PM #5 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by leeches View Post
Would love to hear about a good google cloaker too. Please PM me if you don't want to post in the forum. I run a good amount on Google, all of which get's approved but a good look at my account could lose it for me. Adding an extra layer of security can't be a bad thing.
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...highlight=beta


11-15-2011 11:05 PM #6 tijn (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by vidivo View Post
Noobs stay away from cloaking.
very very true!

if you have no idea what to run, cloaking is not magically gonna hand you cash! You still need to come up with campaigns that convert


11-16-2011 10:04 AM #7 mekb (Member)

I have campaigns that already run and convert but Google doesnt like the LP ! If someone is interested to cloak for me that would be great. you can PM me


11-16-2011 04:04 PM #8 vidivo (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mekb View Post
I have campaigns that already run and convert but Google doesnt like the LP ! If someone is interested to cloak for me that would be great. you can PM me
how much is the campaign making?


11-16-2011 04:09 PM #9 nusolutionz (Veteran Member)

you can also try it on bing/yahoo..they are less strict when it comes to lps


11-16-2011 05:24 PM #10 groomez (Veteran Member)

I think some areas of this forum need to remain private beyond paying members


11-17-2011 09:49 AM #11 tijn (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by groomez View Post
I think some areas of this forum need to remain private beyond paying members
im having a blond moment....what are you referring to?


11-17-2011 03:59 PM #12 jspecify (Member)

Cloaking is easy in theory and easy in implementation if you understand a few basic things.

Here is what you basically need to cloak:

-A packet / IP sniffer

This is for identifying the advertising co.'s internal network structure.

Record these

You can use the wordpress wasuup plugin or statcounter or getclicky or hitcounter... you get the point.

-Once you do this you need a script that

re - directs your traffic based off of the ip that it is.

if the ip != (does not equal) the ip's you have recorded that are the advertiser's

then the traffic goes to your masked page.

Otherwise they go to your fluffer.

Make sense?

Go implement.


11-17-2011 04:12 PM #13 polarbacon (Moderator)

^^^^if it were only that easy


11-17-2011 04:18 PM #14 groomez (Veteran Member)

Well I know how I get grumpy all the time, but isn't there some etiquette regarding "shady" techniques? If people know who you are, have met you in person etc I would have no problem sharing ips to block, ways to cloak, and other fun stuff. But first post and asking how to cloak - that's like asking for the keys to the lambo without knowing if you have a driver's license.

Eh, just my grumpy opinion.


11-18-2011 09:42 AM #15 tijn (Moderator)

Lol. Not grumpy at all Groomezzzz I really didnt know what you were referring to, but with that clarification, can I say your 100% right!

1) Unless your making $500+ profit per day with legit methods, dont even mention the word cloaking. Cloaking is not the answer to loss making campaigns, or a lack of capability & knowledge. Ie -> when you cloak you still need solid marketing. If not you still loose money!

2) Cloaking is not a magic bullet -> see 1!

3) Dont expect people to give you your biggest secrets and tips if they dont know you and you have not invested in the relationship


11-18-2011 11:25 AM #16 darkforces (Member)

Running a cloaked campaign should be much easier to run that a trad adwords campaign because when you run a cloaked campaign you can separate the landing page from the bot fodder, meaning you can get shit hot quality scores, get cheap clicks and still use the lander that you want.


11-20-2011 08:58 AM #17 tijn (Moderator)

Maybe so but its still not gonna help you if you struggle coming up with campaign angles and optimising them to profitability.


11-20-2011 11:02 AM #18 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by darkforces View Post
Running a cloaked campaign should be much easier to run that a trad adwords campaign because when you run a cloaked campaign you can separate the landing page from the bot fodder, meaning you can get shit hot quality scores, get cheap clicks and still use the lander that you want.
true but....

cloaking G...is a process like anything else.....you can't just show them some ezine article and expect your account to last.....

its best to have some experience under your belt...or have a camp you are running legit that you want to take to the darkside....


any serious aff, looking to cloak G should hit me up.....I can help


12-04-2011 06:34 PM #19 mekb (Member)

Polarbacon, i cant PM you can you plz pm. thnx


12-07-2011 08:55 PM #20 jonemd (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jspecify View Post
Cloaking is easy in theory and easy in implementation if you understand a few basic things.

Here is what you basically need to cloak:

-A packet / IP sniffer

This is for identifying the advertising co.'s internal network structure.

Record these

You can use the wordpress wasuup plugin or statcounter or getclicky or hitcounter... you get the point.

-Once you do this you need a script that

re - directs your traffic based off of the ip that it is.

if the ip != (does not equal) the ip's you have recorded that are the advertiser's

then the traffic goes to your masked page.

Otherwise they go to your fluffer.

Make sense?

Go implement.
Just going off IPs is a dangerous game if you ask me.

Personally I like to check everything. The cloaker I had coded checks IP address, referring URL & user agent. It's not as easy as a lot of people suggest and everyone who says it's not a magic bullet is right......get it right though and a shit ton of wonga can be made rapidly.


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