Hi!
to all stm members,
would like to share my recent beginner steps in affiliate marketing and seek advice from the more experienced members.
After reading a lot of the novice area information I decided to dive in,
from the past two weeks here are my gloom results:
signed up to these affiliate offer sites -
appflood, wewe Media, monitizer, mpire,
using
propellerads, popads, zeropark, adcash, self advertiser, www promoter, traffic junky, clicksor, yes advertisin, clixli, 50onRed, hill top ads, adsterra, mappstreet.
spent around $1500-$2000 (I don't know exactly as it's painful to keep watch).
results from all sources are around $60-$70.
the verticals I run were mainly 1/2 click sweepstakes, games, vouchers and anti virus in 3/4 tier countries (south america, africa and far east)
optimization - tried to keep basic optimization, filter zones when it was possible.
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so now i'm seeking advice.
what do I do from here to become profitable?
is there any other information/data I can provide which will help you help me?
thank you very much for those who will try to help,
Roman
Hi Roman, welcome to the forum and great to see you've taken a lot of action already.
Can you share more details, like picking a campaign and sharing the details of your setup & optimisation process? Placement, lander, offer stats would help. Are you direct linking or using landers? If using landers, how many landers are you using and what is your process for selecting landers?
Maybe you can start a follow-along for one of the campaigns you've received a good amount of data for and receive expert guidance, then apply that knowledge across your other campaigns.
Hey,
I can see that you are testing your campaigns on many different traffic sources, with many offers over many geos. But sometimes as an affiliate marketer, it is better to think more like a minimalist: Less is More. What we are saying here is that if you focus your effort and budget on one type of offer on one traffic source you may be able to get better results. To optimise any traffic source you need data, to get that data you need to spend. With a budged spread so thin you lose a big chunk of important insights on the traffic, especially when you are running over several different verticals on several different Geos, making it impossible to get started.
However! We can offer you a helping hand in our system. Here at Zeropark, we can take care of you, just PM us your email and we contact you with a bunch of further advice.
Your case and similar ones, were the reason why I wrote this short article, read it please : https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...n-starting-out
In order to help you identify, where you went wrong, we need more info as rolandb mentioned already. You mentioned 1/2 click offers, I'm pretty sure that you bought wifi traffic for these, which is where your problems started ... you need 3G/Carrier traffic only for this.
But please, tell us more about what you've done so far?
Thank you for your reply rolandb,
I'll try to shed more light on the offers I chose and the traffic I used for them:
1)
GEO:
Kenya
Traffic Source: propeller ads
Impressions: 25,823
Conversions: 17
Cost: $60.17
CPM: $2.33
Affiliate network: mobidea
offer: sweepstakes iphone 6s
flow: click to sms
print screen: http://joxi.ru/DmBDRZxFwnRJ4A
signups: 21
(there was another 4 conversions from another traffic sourch – wwwpromoter -couldn't pull the stats from there)
payout: $1.2
Revenue: $25.2
conversion rate: %0.04
Total: $-34.97
2)
GEO:
Argentina
Traffic Source: propeller ads
Impressions: 9,065
Conversions: 1
Cost: $21.12
CPM: $2.33
Traffic Source: self advertiser
Impressions: 6,352
Conversions: 0
Cost: $4.44
CPV: $0.0007
Affiliate network: mobidea
offer: videos
flow: single optin
print screen: http://joxi.ru/MAjleBpS49WxMm
signups: 6
(stats a bit off here – got 1 registered at
payout: $1.2
Revenue: $7.2
conversion rate: %0.04
Total: $-18.36
Usual Setup of traffic source:
CPM
target URL goes through
frequency: 1
capping: 24h
country: select country
cpm: usally $2.33 as was recommended for propeller ads, other traffic sources have their own bid configuration, on wwwpromoter there is a bid densification between country tiers.
daily budget and total budget: usually start at $10 for testing or around 5000 impressions to see if the offer converts.
schedule: start immediately
targeting: usually 3G + carrier and OS selection
Optimization:
- checking if offer converts at least once
- going through the zones and checking if they go beyond twice the payout of the offer
- after 30-50 times of the payout spent – pause & review
That's what I took from the beginners guide here on stm forum.
At the moment I'm not using landers, as I'm running 1-2 optin offers,
but it seems there is no escaping from them and I'll have to start using landers some time in the future. I just wanted to experience with as less expenses as possible at first.
tried sending traffic for two offers and select the once that converts better in the same GEO, but didn't receive distinctive conversion – stopped test.
that's it friends, please share your knowledge as I will receive any advice with much appreciation. Thank you in advance to whom ever comments.
p.s – zeropark, I applied for your program. Was rejected. Don't remember the exact reason.
So 1-2 click offers ... did you buy ONLY 3G(carrier) traffic for them - and if so, did you check whether it's the carriers that the offer accepts? Or was there wifi too? Maybe even desktop?
Hi Roman! Let's see what we can learn from those camps. I would like to see the following stats for each camp, if you wouldn't mind taking the trouble to provide them:
-Placement stats in two versions. Sorted by decreasing number of conversions, and also by decreasing number of impressions. Just the higher volume placements for each would be good - first page of
-OS stats
-Mobile carrier stats
-Device stats
-Browser stats
-Any other stats you feel may be useful
Based on initial info provided, here is some advice:
-For antivirus offers, it's usually necessary to use landers, and aggressive ones at that.
-For vid subscription offers, direct linking will work. I have seen cases where adding a lander has increased ROI, but you would have to test extensively, because it's not easy to make a lander that can do more good than harm - since these offers don't need a lot of preselling.
-As has been mentioned, focusing on testing one traffic source, or a couple at most, would be better than trying to learn to run on so many at once.
-Try to learn to gauge the profits potential of a camp before running further. If it looks hopeful, run more traffic. If it doesn't look hopeful, either pause it, or test more offers and landers to improve your funnel. I will include some links to relevant details on how to do this, in a second post below.
-Learn to use spy tools to identify what landers and offers are running well, and on which traffic sources. This will narrow things down for you, and therefore limit your test budget.
Will do my best to do more detailed analyses after I go over your stats - after you post them.
Amy
Sorry for the delay in getting the promised links to you - been traveling. But here they are...
Please see these posts for some thoughts on how to gauge whether a camp is worth running further:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post324466
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post324944
Please see the links in this post on how to use Adplexity, and how to test landers:
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post324392
Please feel free to ask for further clarification!
Amy