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My US Campaing with MaxBounty (10)


08-04-2017 04:15 PM #1 bachroll (Member)
My US Campaing with MaxBounty

Hi everyone

I've been running a few campaigns here and there but this is my first follow along here in STM. I decided to start it because even though I’m pretty new in AM, I wanted to target a tier 1 and see how it works. I know it’s not the most advisable thing to do but I think it can help to get me experience for the future. Let’s take it as an experiment. The details of the campaign are as follows:

AN: MaxBounty
Commission details: sign up + reach 5000 points
Payout: $12.00/lead
Allowed traffic: pop traffic, search, social media and desktop
Country: United States
Daily Budget: $10 to start the campaign.

I knew this was going to be difficult at the beginning but since the offer is new and has potential (I chatted with my AM) I wanted to give it a try. If it doesn’t go well, I already have other offers on tier 2 and 3 countries.

I started setting up everything on MaxBounty, Voluum and PopAds. I wanted to use first PopAds to see how it works. My AM told me that the postback links were ok. I setup 4 landing pages and everything was ready to go.

My idea was to test if everything was configured correctly. After all it is my first campaign with MaxBounty and I wanted to be sure I could see all the clicks and other variables on the three platforms. I configured a daily budget of $10 only to se if everything was working fine. I decided to start bidding very low ($0.005). Later I would increase the bid to something more competitive for the US. The traffic source was pending to be approved so I focused on other campaigns I’m preparing to run.

My surprise was that when I got back to my US Campaign it was out of budget. It was less than an hour and I spent $11.90. I don’t master PopAds but I didn’t expect the budget to be “consumed” so fast. The good news is the setup seems to be right. I received more than 4000 visits, 9 clicks and no conversions.

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This is only the beginning and my idea is to start to define the way to approach this campaign. Since it allows pop and search traffic I was also thinking about using Bing Ads. I would increase the bidding to get more quality traffic. What do you think? On the other hand, although the date is not enough to know what to cut, I’ve seen that one landing page is doing better than the rest. Should I use only that landing page?

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Anyway, I also have to recognise that I should have setup the campaign better on PopAds. I can see on Voluum a lot of desktop traffic and found I didn’t filter that on PopAds. Before starting the campaigns again, I would like to now your thoughts. I know is extremely difficult to success with this campaign, but the knowledge that can give me is worth it. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.


08-04-2017 04:44 PM #2 imadgine (Member)

Hey... how do they collect the points? If it's something that can take weeks or months, it can be hard to optimize... I World pick something that gives you instant results - payout as soon as a registration or sale is completed.


08-04-2017 07:49 PM #3 bachroll (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by imadgine View Post
Hey... how do they collect the points? If it's something that can take weeks or months, it can be hard to optimize... I World pick something that gives you instant results - payout as soon as a registration or sale is completed.
Hi imadgine

Maybe you're right. I have read the information on the App of the offer at Google Play, and collecting points can take time. Basically, the visitor has to sign up and to get points he has a few ways: Invite friends, download other apps, do surveys, sign up in other websites and watch videos. The Affiliate Manager gave me some offers with a lower payment but the visitor only has to confirm his email address. Maybe I should stick with those offers. By the way, they are also for tier 1 countries. Thanks for the tip.


08-05-2017 09:22 AM #4 bachroll (Member)

I've been analyzing the data of the campaign and on the referrer tab of Voluum I found some strange URL which was sending most of the visits. I visited these sites and its not even a website. Do you thing they could be bots?

http://invonesia1.000webhostapp.com/index1.html

http://harmonydesain.000webhostapp.com/index1.html

By they way, I started a new campaign for Australia. This time I get paid when the user enters his email address. If it doesn’t work, next Monday I’ll head to other kind of offer less competitive. As i said, this was an experiment and for testing reasons.


08-08-2017 08:45 PM #5 rolandb ()

It's not necessarily a bot. Your best best is to do a bot test:
caurmen's running a bot test

I'd also collect more data, think it's too early to start cutting. Check out the following threads with affiliate math to help your decision making.
caurmen's statistical significance thread
vortex's how to cut placements/landers thread
placement cutting tool

good luck!


08-10-2017 02:15 PM #6 bachroll (Member)

Thank you rolandb. I spent more money testing but no conversions. I decided to stop the campaign a head again to offers in tier 2,3 and 4 countries. This time I'm going to take a different approach. I'm going to look for something thats doing fine in Adplexity and then look for the offer (or a similar one) to replicate it. I'm a bit disappointed with mobile traffic, at least the networks I have used. I have some budget left on a few of these networks and I'll spend it in more campaigns, but my idea is going back to Facebook, Bing, Google Adwords and Outbrain. I had good results in the past with these networks (not in CPA) and the traffic seems to have more quality. I'll open another follow along with the next campaigns.


08-10-2017 08:06 PM #7 platinum (Veteran Member)

By searching offers through Adplexity is definitely a good move. Check out what's doing good out there and is already scaled on several traffic sources. Rip those landers and replicate the setup in your camp.

PopAds has some really good performing publishers but also you have to be very careful with targeting and traffic quality check.
Take advantage of their publisher reports where you can see how many campaigns are excluding and including that specific publisher. Once you spot a publisher that's already excluded from most of the campaigns that meet its targeting conditions, cut it cold, you won't loose much more than just thousands of useless landing page visits that will have like 2-3 lp clicks and won't convert at all.

When running bot test, the hidden link is quite a good practice as mentioned on caurmen's guide. Try to set it up correctly and you'll get a better picture of what type of traffic are you receiving.


08-11-2017 08:49 AM #8 bachroll (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by platinum View Post
By searching offers through Adplexity is definitely a good move. Check out what's doing good out there and is already scaled on several traffic sources. Rip those landers and replicate the setup in your camp.

PopAds has some really good performing publishers but also you have to be very careful with targeting and traffic quality check.
Take advantage of their publisher reports where you can see how many campaigns are excluding and including that specific publisher. Once you spot a publisher that's already excluded from most of the campaigns that meet its targeting conditions, cut it cold, you won't loose much more than just thousands of useless landing page visits that will have like 2-3 lp clicks and won't convert at all.

When running bot test, the hidden link is quite a good practice as mentioned on caurmen's guide. Try to set it up correctly and you'll get a better picture of what type of traffic are you receiving.
Thank you Platinum! I'll definitely follow those tips.


08-11-2017 10:30 AM #9 johnnyx (Member)

Hello platinum,

What exactly do you mean with 'publisher reports' ?
I can not find any at PopAds


08-11-2017 11:04 AM #10 platinum (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by johnnyx View Post
Hello platinum,

What exactly do you mean with 'publisher reports' ?
I can not find any at PopAds
When you generate the Quick Report by Website ID on a given campaign on PopAds you will get a list of all website IDs you have been receiving traffic from, with corresponding impressions, avg bid rate and cost.
In the below example we are generating report for website id1476767.

Just click on the WebsiteID and a new tab will open


As you can see from the screenshot, you can check how many campaigns are targeting this website id, how many excluding, publisher category, quality score as well as allowed content and what type of POPs can you serve there.
One thing to be careful when using such information is not to cut publisher based on "Campaigns excluding this website", we don't know exactly when these stats have been updated.
On top of that, always check your tracker stats, they will help you find some gems even among the most excluded publishers


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