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06-26-2017 01:05 PM
#1
mation (Member)
FB Cloaking is not working anymore! (What do you think)
GOT THIS MESSAGE FROM FACECLOAKER
FB Cloaking is not working anymore!
Dear members of Facecloaker, Dear Blackhat marketers,
You may know it already, but Facebook did a huge change regarding the way they check your ads. They are now using a "residential IP provider" to check your ads manually. That is not a good news at all for cloaking, and that is probably the reason they are starting doing this.
Our technical team is currently working on this and we will let you know when we will find a way to make it work again! Believe guys!
As we respect our customers, we prefer to honestly tell you that our product is not working anymore, instead of telling you it is, and seeing all your account getting bans.
Our product is currently closed, and we highly suggest you cut all your cloaked campaigns.
We keep you updated on this, Thank you for your understanding,
The Facecloaker's team.
06-26-2017 02:31 PM
#2
Mr Baffoe (Veteran Member)
Wow this happened sooner than I expected, I just sent out a warning to my newsletter last Friday.
There's just as much money to be made running whitehat on FB and Google.
It's more sustainable as well. There's a reason why adblockers are growing in popularity.
FB and Google both realize that in order to protect long term revenue, and ensure people keep trusting and clicking ads they have to get hyper aggressive on stuff like cloaking and absolutely anything that gives a bad user experience post click.
Use this as a wake up call. Because this is only the beginning.
You may be looking for work arounds to protect 6-7 figures in revenue. They are doing this to protect multiple billions in revenue. Who's more incentivized and equipped to win this battle? 
Trust me, market in the way FB and Google want, and they will reward you with all the traffic you could ever want.
06-26-2017 05:31 PM
#3
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)
Without cloaking BH is also possible, just challenge yourself to be creative now. If upper story is true ofcourse.
06-26-2017 06:23 PM
#4
cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
Mr Baffoe
You may be looking for work arounds to protect 6-7 figures in revenue. They are doing this to protect multiple billions in revenue. Who's more incentivized and equipped to win this battle?

.
That is definitely true.
06-26-2017 06:48 PM
#5
equadox (Member)

Originally Posted by
Mr Baffoe
Wow this happened sooner than I expected, I just sent out a warning to my newsletter last Friday.
There's just as much money to be made running whitehat on FB and Google.
It's more sustainable as well. There's a reason why adblockers are growing in popularity.
FB and Google both realize that in order to protect long term revenue, and ensure people keep trusting and clicking ads they have to get hyper aggressive on stuff like cloaking and absolutely anything that gives a bad user experience post click.
Use this as a wake up call. Because this is only the beginning.
You may be looking for work arounds to protect 6-7 figures in revenue. They are doing this to protect multiple billions in revenue. Who's more incentivized and equipped to win this battle?
Trust me, market in the way FB and Google want, and they will reward you with all the traffic you could ever want.
So much this. If you've been cloaking or BH'ing you should've been prepared for this. Maybe you'll find a workaround today, but tomorrow this will be gone.
Blackhat and cloaking is for quick term profits only, and should never ever be considered sustainable income.
06-26-2017 09:37 PM
#6
thepinkcat (Senior Member)
^ From what I've read, FB & AdWords don't really want affiliates on their networks. Do they?
I remember finding a thread a while ago(this one!) where a longtime AdWords user basically said that every affiliate lander is a bridge page, so they all ultimately violate AdWords' bridge page policy.
That thread dates back to late 2013 so maybe things have changed. And I certainly haven't touched Facebook so I've got no right to talk on that.
But I'm wondering how serious whitehat actually is on these big networks. I'd like to believe whitehat offers do exist out there with consistent opportunities and little-to-no risk of bans. But from what I've read, at least on AdWords, it's pretty much a gamble or getting to know the right people at Google who'll let your ads slide through the cracks.
06-27-2017 02:05 AM
#7
bluecrayon (Member)
What are the fb nutra horde gonna do now
06-27-2017 02:19 AM
#8
Mr Baffoe (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
thepinkcat
But I'm wondering how serious whitehat actually is on these big networks. I'd like to believe whitehat offers do exist out there with consistent opportunities and little-to-no risk of bans. But from what I've read, at least on AdWords, it's pretty much a gamble or getting to know the right people at Google who'll let your ads slide through the cracks.
Having someone at Google/FB that will let your ads slide is not the only way.
A full understanding of the criteria they use to approve your ads, lps and offers is also a huge competitive advantage.
For example Google's Official 157 Page PDF Search Quality Rating Guide will tell you pretty much everything you need to know about what works on both organic and paid serps for google.
You can download it here
It was originally leaked multiple times, so google decided to just publish it publicly. It's a long read, but if you take the time to understand the content, you will be way ahead of the competition. Don't worry if you find you have to read this multiple times, I've heard most people who apply for quality raters fail the entry exam.
In terms of FB, there's no such public guide that I know of. But a lot of the stuff in Google's guide will be applicable.
Also we're experimenting with a new consulting service that will pretty much tell you everything you are doing wrong in your FB account, and let know know exactly what FB wants from advertisers.
You can check it out here. Discounted pricing ends at midnight pst or when 20 spots are claimed.
Just in case it needs to be said: This is not a service for you if you are a BH marketer. It's for you, the WH marketer, looking to maximize what you are already doing, and not make the accidental mistakes that often cause your ads to get disapproved or your FB ads account banned.
06-27-2017 06:47 AM
#9
oleandr (Member)
Pretty silent thread for such a huge update.
Got one of the accounts banned a day ago, so now wonder if it was just ordinary FB ban or because of this update.
Anyone suffered from this already?
06-27-2017 08:05 AM
#10
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
oleandr
Pretty silent thread for such a huge update.
Got one of the accounts banned a day ago, so now wonder if it was just ordinary FB ban or because of this update.
Anyone suffered from this already?
Indeed, wondering how guys like noipfraud will act on this? Guys?
06-27-2017 08:17 AM
#11
jackywongfire (Member)
Two years ago, when I was enjoying the revenue from Adwords, the guy at Google banned my account. As I was very confident at my cloaking method, I argued with them about the banned reason. The result made me desperate. They even used the users' chrome traffic flow log as an evidence( inner system screenshot ). This is unsolvable for cloaking. Because you have to send your audience to your LP or Offers unless you don't buy chrome traffic. But chrome traffic has really a big market share. Maybe some guys' cloaking methods are stable for a long time for Google, but if the guys really want to ban you or your account ad cost is big enough, no cloaking can survive.
06-27-2017 10:26 AM
#12
tap1on (Member)
we are still doing well but had some struggles past weeks.
06-27-2017 06:55 PM
#13
mation (Member)
Everyone has problems at the moment...
06-27-2017 07:22 PM
#14
evy123 (AMC Alumnus)
Fake news?
06-28-2017 10:49 AM
#15
ewayglobal (Member)
We already overcome it these days. Many ad accounts has been flagged and FB account even deactivated. Facebook is having a big update that blackhat-ers should find other ways out. I still think whitehat is still a sustainable way to get income.
06-28-2017 12:19 PM
#16
robert-e (Member)
Hasn't this been going on for weeks already? I have heard a lot of guys have been having trouble getting accounts to stick
06-28-2017 12:35 PM
#17
lytonic (Member)
Oh is that true???
06-28-2017 04:52 PM
#18
sergein ()
This is where proper viral/native sites come into play
my team can do the sites even faster now.
https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...l=1#post317161
06-28-2017 08:53 PM
#19
revimedia (Member)
Running BH on FB is getting more and more expensive, FB is getting stricter and their algorithm is better at banning fake accounts. You are better off trying WH offers on FB like the other poster said - less volatile revenue.
07-03-2017 05:49 PM
#20
bobliu (Member)
Is there any official source that mentions this?
If this is the case, they're not doing a very good job - here's a snapshot of popular ads from newly registered domains seen running in the last 24hrs: http://imgur.com/download/NN5rF30 (notice a quite a few cloaked here)
07-04-2017 07:49 AM
#21
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
bobliu
Is there any official source that mentions this?
If this is the case, they're not doing a very good job - here's a snapshot of popular ads from newly registered domains seen running in the last 24hrs:
http://imgur.com/download/NN5rF30 (notice a quite a few cloaked here)
you are back! any updates on the top pages list per country?
07-04-2017 10:23 AM
#22
bobliu (Member)

Originally Posted by
stickupkid
you are back! any updates on the top pages list per country?

I'll check in and see what I'm allowed to share - I'll try and get something valuable out on my 1,000th post!
07-04-2017 11:43 AM
#23
stickupkid (Senior Moderator)

Originally Posted by
bobliu
I'll check in and see what I'm allowed to share - I'll try and get something valuable out on my 1,000th post!
Great, your FB input is always golden!
07-05-2017 06:13 AM
#24
fallonp (Member)

Originally Posted by
mation
You may know it already, but Facebook did a huge change regarding the way they check your ads. They are now using a "residential IP provider" to check your ads manually.
Residential IP proxies have been around for years. Frankly I'm amazed that FB have only just started doing this now, it's a pretty easy and obvious way for them to check for cloaking.
Presumably Google and other traffic sources will be doing the same anytime soon, if they haven't started already.
07-05-2017 11:59 PM
#25
ydimka (Banned)

Originally Posted by
fallonp
Residential IP proxies have been around for years. Frankly I'm amazed that FB have only just started doing this now, it's a pretty easy and obvious way for them to check for cloaking.
Presumably Google and other traffic sources will be doing the same anytime soon, if they haven't started already.
FB uses residential ip's from luminati networks, but since the luminati network works by using the IP of people who have the "HOLA" plugin installed, a lot of cloakers bypassed it. Now they must have started doing something different.
07-07-2017 11:25 AM
#26
lytonic (Member)
So that's means we need carefully use our FB private accounts?It will more easy get banned?
07-07-2017 01:19 PM
#27
MrClean (Senior Member)

Originally Posted by
lytonic
So that's means we need carefully use our FB private accounts?It will more easy get banned?
advertising on FB is like digging for gold on a minefield. Your # of accounts = your # of lives.
The only way to win is to get blown up 100 times the hard way & learn from your mistakes.
However, Unlimited accounts = Unlimited lives, so it's all a matter of time until you crack the code....
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