Can you create your own PPV network? (22)
I was wondering if I can create a PPV network, by harnessing users on my site.
Than showing then Pop-ups for life.
Any one knows how you can set a PPV network?
Sounds like a pretty sweet deal Customer Value wise
yes you could show visitors a pop under and show your own ads, but this is not a ppv network.
to create your own ppv network you would need to get your users to install a toolbar or some other software that is loaded with your ppv code that monitors pages and pops urls.
this is not simple code.
there was a whitelabel one around a while back but not sure of the link and whats happened to it.
besides the coding challenge, there are several legal challenges around privacy, data collection, and serving ads that you need to 'protect' yourself against should you wish to create a legal business out of this.
lastly for a ppv network to have a viable future should you wish to create something like LI/TV/DirectCPV, you would need to invest heavily upfront in getting toolbar installations.
anyone tried? whats your experience?
You will need at least 5 million people to install your toolbar.
BTW, does LI traffic only come from internet explorer?
The basis for a private ppv network is having a custom adware - and that's not cheap, at least if you want it done right. I've been toying with this idea for years but haven't found a programmer I trust that can do it for a reasonable price yet.
Originally Posted by hmate9
Latest "LI" installers also install chrome and firefox plugins. These will monitor urls and generate pops.
However - all pops are opened in a IE process -> therefore all LI visits are loading your landers in IE.
There is some fail logic in this thread.
I dont wanna sound harsh, but unless you have attempted this, dont make it out to be hard.
Im not outting anything here, but I know 110% there is a macro software that you can make the EXE loader with and then all you need is the backend which can be made from PHP. All the exe does is call home the current URL of the browser and then read an XML file of what pop URL it needs to show to the user based on what the backend gives it. The macro software is about as easy to use as uBot. PHP is not hard to learn and can be outsourced. If you fool around with enough macro software, it will be easy to see which one I am talking about.
You can silent install/bind to current software with some coding very easily and BAM you got a way to install it on a users machine.
Of course I left out the legal issues and shit and how to get people to DL it, but hey, this was a simply example.
PLEASE DONT NOT PM ME about me building you one or partnering with you unless your legit.
Do I smell a case study...????
In all seriousness, I'm sure anyone who's played with PPV has had this thought at some time.
Would be great to get some info on how to set this up, .... purely for experimental purposes of course 
Do you know of any off the shelf product for this? Please PM Me
Originally Posted by eliquid
macro software
EXE loader
call home the current URL
XML file
silent install/bind
Dont sound easy to me for most people that struggle with JS/PHP. My guess 80% dont even know what these mean.
I sure dont.
Case study??
OK, I will do one but:
1. Im going take my time on it, it wont be out this weekend for sure
2. I want to partner with anyone that gets it up and running. I can show you the basics and provide code, but I do not have time to run anything myself 100% with all my other projects.
everyone good on that?
yeah ill be good. happy to be your partner.
Anyone have a copy of PrivateCPV.com ( site not up anymore ) .
It used to sell for $127 and was pretty good.
I think it would be more interesting to cover only the advertising/distribution part and use PrivateCPV as a base to start.
If it was the one on WF being sold, I actually beta'd it and have the source code still ( somewhere )
http://cpvtrx.com/admincp/settings.php
Look like someone forgot to secure theirs. Still it looks VERY basic... no stats, ... no 'live view' like P202.
i just checked some of my hardrives and didnt see it at first glance. Will take a better look once I get home
I will be happy to partner with you
I'm currently in final beta testing of my private CPV "network". All it took is 3 months, a team of developers, a 100K installs and a lot of $$$ to figure out what's the best way to do it.
A word of advice - the biggest problem is NOT technology! Its how to handle being labeled as spam/malware by anti-virus companies, wot, mccfee, etc... ;-)
How is PPV network legal/spam wise?
Hey eliquid, wanted to bump this thread.... did you manage to find some example code..?
I can tell you we've been working on toolbar stuff for around 18 months with 2 full time dev's, myself and a network of traffic to draw from.
We have yet to make it succesful. It's the most difficult thing I've attempted to date.
We started with prepackaged toolbars and 3rd party libraries. They were huge fails because as soon as their was a browser update it would take them months to fix them. Also, you couldn't optimize anything easily because everything was closed source.
All the different clients is a NIGHTMARE, different OS, service packs, IE, Chrome, FF, .... there's so many things to break.
Then when you figure it all out you have the antivirus companies are on you ass. They're not fun to deal with and most of the time the only way you can get off their lists is legal action. To grow it big you'd want to make sure you have good legal counsel and most likely someone on staff to handle all that stuff.
Anyone that has questions let me know I'm happy to share what we've done.
What i don't understand with PPV is how anti virus software or even the standard program which comes with windows 7 doesn't delete or pick it up when doing scans? Do companies like TV, LI, have special agreements with them?
Or how about broswer updates, which become more sophisticated and prevent popups from occurring.
It seems very risky business, a update (either browser or antivirus) could potentially wipe out this type of traffic over night.
sorry guys, I gave this up a while back. had too many irons in the fire so to speak.
id be glad to share any info though.
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