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10-08-2011 10:46 PM #1 hmate9 (Member)
iPhone 4S Coreg Campaign

You know what this thread is going to be about.

I will send traffic using LeadImpact.

Goal is $100 a day initially.

Here is my landing page. What do you guys think about it?

http://freebigbrandrewards.com


10-08-2011 11:10 PM #2 modmaster (Member)

Looks nice! keep us updated.


10-08-2011 11:12 PM #3 godspeed (Member)

Not good. you need LP for PPV. It's also better to pass phone number. You don't need that privacy policies and other stuff.


10-08-2011 11:13 PM #4 danny27 (AMC Alumnus)

I like it


10-08-2011 11:23 PM #5 hmate9 (Member)

You don't need that privacy policies and other stuff.
I really need that.

And yes, I will pass mobile numbers. Currently I have only done the landing page.


10-08-2011 11:26 PM #6 godspeed (Member)

This is how your lp looks on LI pop:


10-08-2011 11:33 PM #7 corp (Member)

Not trying to be a dick, but don't waste your money or time with that LP. Especially on PPV.

Install hotbar to get an idea of what other people are doing.


10-08-2011 11:36 PM #8 pancakes (Member)

Being brutally honest, but the LP is a mess. Confusing to look at... For example, you don't need all those features (Siri, Dual core, etc.) at the bottom. Also, the Continue button needs a hand pointer when you mouseover (CSS).


10-11-2011 03:53 PM #9 stackman (Administrator)

The lander CONCEPT i think is good.

It needs to be cleaned up a bit, and organized a bit better, also it won't fit for PPV pops (which i think is your main issues), gotta make it smaller!


10-11-2011 04:59 PM #10 Daksneezian (Member)

Agreed, shrink it!


10-11-2011 05:27 PM #11 ibanez (Member)

You'll need a legit exit URL, not just a html page saying "thanks...".


10-11-2011 07:13 PM #12 andymin (Member)

410k, half of your audience will never see it, get it to less than 100k minimum, not everyone has a quad core and 100Mb DSL


10-11-2011 07:35 PM #13 hmate9 (Member)

Ok, thanks very much for your feedback!!

Here are a few more questions from me

Can I add a code that will automatically make the window full screen? So I dont have to shrink it?

I saw andymin's comment about getting the page size shinked. Is freebigbrandrewards.com really that big? It doesnt have any flash in it or anything. It is basically just a big picture with a text box. Is that really a heavy webpage?

Any more improvements you guys have in mind?


10-11-2011 07:36 PM #14 hmate9 (Member)

Please make sure you subscribe to this thread


10-11-2011 07:45 PM #15 ibanez (Member)

Ok, thanks very much for your feedback!!

Here are a few more questions from me

Can I add a code that will automatically make the window full screen? So I dont have to shrink it?

I saw andymin's comment about getting the page size shinked. Is freebigbrandrewards.com really that big? It doesnt have any flash in it or anything. It is basically just a big picture with a text box. Is that really a heavy webpage?

Any more improvements you guys have in mind?
Well your background image is a .png file with 410kb, go save it as a medium quality .jpg file. It's way too big atm.
Plus get rid of the .js crap, it takes too long to load also. Check http://tools.pingdom.com/?url=http:/...ndrewards.com/ for loading time and file sizes.


10-11-2011 07:47 PM #16 hmate9 (Member)

Thanks ibanez!! Good shout


10-11-2011 07:54 PM #17 ibanez (Member)

No problem man.
For those of you who have no clue why / when / how to use different file formats, check http://webdesign.tutsplus.com/articl...in-web-design/.
If you do your stuff with Photoshop you can play around with the settings in the save for web export options. You can check the file size before exporting on the right side.


10-11-2011 08:04 PM #18 hmate9 (Member)

Yea, tutsplus has amazingggg tutorials


10-11-2011 08:13 PM #19 andymin (Member)

Take a look at the lander on this thread:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...-On-LeadImpact

or install Hotbar (not on your work computer) and look at what others are running.

Most of your viewers will be interested in an iPhone, regardless of targets, even an 8Gig iPhone. You have a captive audience, cut out all that stuff about Dual core etc, stick to the main points, eg.

Get the latest iPhone 4S, enter your email!

Aim to get all this within 770 x 400. I've seen Contextual links in LeadImpact pops so a complete image is an easy way to combat this, simple blue/red text and white space will make for a small image size.


10-11-2011 09:14 PM #20 m0thm4n (Member)

Hey man, this will maximise your browser window. You might want to wait until Lead Impact approve your lander before you put it in though as I'm not sure how much they like that kind of thing:

Code:
    <script type="text/javascript">  

	function maximize() {
            window.moveTo(0, 0);
            window.resizeTo(screen.width, screen.height);
        }

        maximize();
    
    </script>


10-11-2011 09:38 PM #21 hmate9 (Member)

Ok, script is working fine.

Everything should be good.

Today I will finish to whole page and tomorrow I will start sending traffic.

Which traffic source should I use?


10-11-2011 09:55 PM #22 m0thm4n (Member)

Use Lead Impact, and find keywords using the Google Keywords tool


10-11-2011 10:14 PM #23 hmate9 (Member)

LI it is then


10-12-2011 03:51 AM #24 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by m0thm4n View Post
Use Lead Impact, and find keywords using the Google Keywords tool
affexpert does a great job as well...I would highly recommend you give those tools a try


10-12-2011 06:55 AM #25 hmate9 (Member)

Ok, will do!


10-12-2011 03:58 PM #26 richardj (Member)

To reiterate what everyone else is saying - the image needs to be smaller and the less weight (convert to .jpg).

Keep the call to action at the top, and iPhone 4S to the left, get rid of all the blurb and put the email signup on the right of the iPhone 4S.

Keep all that within 770px wide and 400px high, then below all that put privacy and terms - you need that to cover your ass!

Then post it up here before pushing live. You'll waste your money on LI putting it live as is!

It would also be clever to get your first coreg page approved with your AM first.


10-12-2011 07:01 PM #27 hmate9 (Member)

I have to agree with the fact that I have to reduce image size, but I cant agree with moving the email submit box. I think it draws great attention to itself and I will add a moving .gif "continue" button to draw attention to it even more.

I really think that my design looks professional and legit which will result in high conversion.

Now, I said today I will be finishing the site so I can send traffic to it tomorrow but I had way to much work to do around here and school too unfortunately so I am going to have to postpone this to tomorrow.

Sorry for keeping you guys waiting for the results.

Make sure you are subscribed to this thread so you wont miss anything


10-12-2011 07:03 PM #28 hmate9 (Member)

Ok, so here is exactly whats gonna happen.

The design stays.

I will reduce the image size to increase the speed of the site's loading time.

770px*400px will be the new size of the site (or I can add a code to make it expand into full screen when it is loaded)

Finish the process of the site, so when user enters email I need to collect and store address and phone number.

Send some BETA testing traffic from Facebook.

Then launch using LI!


10-12-2011 07:04 PM #29 Daksneezian (Member)

None of our opinions matter. If you really want to be sure about the email box just test both and let the data decide.


10-12-2011 08:45 PM #30 godspeed (Member)

Yup, you need to test more LP's, sometimes professional design is not converting at all.


10-24-2011 04:31 PM #31 wildfing (Member)

With email submits and offer walls i.e cc offers and the like requires alot more testing, alot more budget and most of them email submit guys do other stuff apart from just their wall. They sell off data, they market to the email, a whole lot more and atleast with gametheory and silverpath you can chase younger demos as everyone has a mobile and kids dont have cc's Just some advice


10-24-2011 06:31 PM #32 hmate9 (Member)

How and where can I sell these emails and for how much for?


10-24-2011 06:43 PM #33 tijn (Moderator)

once you have tested several landing pages and can share some data about the results of those tests, get back in touch and happy to help out look at your data at that stage.

im not sure you should giveup this early on coreg but goodluck and if it works for you well done.

also - as i said - if your still bidding apple.com / iphone then this might be the source of your conversion problem.


10-24-2011 07:05 PM #34 darkforces (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by hmate9 View Post
@darkforces:

I have looked at a whole lotta email submits from EWA network and seen as they must be converting, I copied them.

Those email submits do not use game theory paths or mobile offers.

So if it works for them, why wouldnt it work for me?
How do you know they are converting?


10-24-2011 07:06 PM #35 hmate9 (Member)

I have stopped bidding on apple.com and started bidding on craigslist.org sections

They have not yet approved my keywords so nothing to report there.

Approx. how much is an email worth?


10-24-2011 07:35 PM #36 alex_b (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by hmate9 View Post
Approx. how much is an email worth?
You probably won't be able to sell single emails, rather in batches of thousands. How much they're worth depends on a lot of factors, like how often you emailed them already, how fresh are the leads, niche etc. Think about why an email submit pays around $1? If you sell them in bulk you'll get way less than that of course. The more details you have about the lead on top of their email, the more money you'll get per lead.


10-24-2011 07:39 PM #37 hmate9 (Member)

So lets say I get 1,000 emails who are interested in iPhone 4S and I have their address, age etc.

How much is that worth and to whom could i sell it to?


10-24-2011 09:34 PM #38 andymin (Member)

Jeremy Shoemaker?


10-24-2011 09:41 PM #39 m0thm4n (Member)

You should consider staying with the coreg a little longer. Try out different angles like the quiz page landers, etc.


10-24-2011 11:33 PM #40 hmate9 (Member)

Maybe.

We'll see how it works out tonight.


10-24-2011 11:34 PM #41 hmate9 (Member)

100th reply!


10-25-2011 09:33 AM #42 tijn (Moderator)

How did it work out?


10-25-2011 09:48 AM #43 hmate9 (Member)

Well, this is what's happening.

The lander I think is good. It has a 20% signup rate but I cannot convert backend.

How do I make money with it??

Coreg didnt make any money and now cpa-wall doesnt make me any money.

Also, I am doing a MacBook Pro campaign which seems to be doing well but the traffic sucks. What would be some good high-traffic keywords for it?


10-25-2011 09:54 AM #44 tijn (Moderator)

in my experience you need to come up with an angle and then just find the target that works

types of angles:
* survey style
* your todays winner
* true/false/quiz style
* branded campaigns

all of these work well

the target comes second. Angle is first.

And as many many many people have suggested in this thread -> dont give up too early on coreg. its not push button monies with no effort. You need to test multiple combinations of the different variables to find the combo that is profitable


10-25-2011 10:24 AM #45 hmate9 (Member)

For my Justin Bieber campaign, I am using a true/false method.

This iPhone 4S campaign I am clearly taking on Apple's well know product the iPhone.

Seen as that's what every email submit offer on CPA Network does, I figured this was the best one right?


10-25-2011 11:38 AM #46 m0thm4n (Member)

You don't seem to be giving things much of a chance to take off, seems like you're only running things for one or two days max before writing them off. You should try to commit to one thing for 30 days. It's helped me alot!


10-25-2011 12:05 PM #47 tijn (Moderator)

+1 ^^^ 30 days focus on getting email submit offers to work on ppv will give you the best basis for moving on to coreg.


10-25-2011 12:18 PM #48 hmate9 (Member)

So you guys are suggesting that I do email submits first before moving onto creating my own coregs?


10-25-2011 12:25 PM #49 hmate9 (Member)

Another question:

If I was to stay with coreg, which one would give me a higher EPC:

Collection address, name etc. first and then directing to coreg path

OR

Linking to coreg path straight after collection email address?


10-25-2011 01:36 PM #50 tijn (Moderator)

test both

re: email subs - if you can get email subs to work on PPV then coreg will be easier

key is to give it a proper go and dont quit after just 2 days of trying.


10-25-2011 02:09 PM #51 wildfing (Member)

You can get in touch with people/networks who will mail to your email lists for you and they take a cut in rev. I havnt done it myself but I know there are such things about. Data management etc.


10-25-2011 05:41 PM #52 hmate9 (Member)

Got it.

Gonna target craiglist.org today


10-26-2011 03:55 PM #53 mykeyfocus (Member)

what are you planning on promoting tomorrow?

Seriously though, stick with something, nothings likely to work if you just throw it at a wall and then move on, you have to mold the shit your throwing so its sticky enough, and then aim for the slightly raised bit on the wall so the shit sticks.


11-03-2011 02:43 AM #54 stackman (Administrator)

mykeyfocus has shared the gold with you.

I used to jump from a to b to c all within an hour. I them was told to stick with something for a month (as long as it had promise), and it was the best advice i was ever given. Things need time to yield results!


11-03-2011 05:36 AM #55 danny27 (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by hmate9 View Post
Got it.

Gonna target craiglist.org today
be careful with this one - such high volume. i've tried it - too broad and extremely low ctr but could be gold for you depending on your angle. but this one is yeah dangerous. traffic won't stop right away even when you have paused it.


01-05-2012 08:22 AM #56 fortune (Member)

Did you continue with this campaign or was it scraped?


01-09-2012 09:23 AM #57 danny27 (AMC Alumnus)

Yeah what happened to this? Was looking forward...


01-10-2012 12:40 AM #58 boink (Member)

My guess is he gave up and jumped to another traffic source. Lol


01-14-2012 10:47 PM #59 hmate9 (Member)

^ Why you gotta be like that?

I am still with LI as well as SEO. But I did gave up with the iphone campaign.

Feel free to rip it!


01-15-2012 01:19 AM #60 richardj (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by hmate9 View Post
^ Why you gotta be like that?

I am still with LI as well as SEO. But I did gave up with the iphone campaign.

Feel free to rip it!
Sorry HMate9, but RIP what? There's not much here to rip.

I don't mean to sound harsh but you were given some great advice in this thread but you chose to actively ignore it. There are some great marketers in this forum (that's why you joined, right?) and you ignored their advice.

If you had taken some of their action points in to consideration, this may have been a success story, but alas...

I'd like to see another follow along from you where you test people's suggestions... You might well be surprised by the outcome!


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