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09-23-2011 09:02 AM #1 b28da6o0n (Member)
My AM At Azoogle Just Blew Me Off

So Azoogle owes me mid $xxxx between last month and this month's traffic, and my AM just told me that they have no idea when I will be paid. I'm only sending like $100-200 revenue per day but still, what the F*(& is this? Any suggestions on how I can get them to pay me? I'm probably going to threaten to send my traffic elsewhere (or just do it and wait for them to pay me before sending any more traffic). I would send them more revenue but given the way they're handling this I am very reluctant. Any suggestions?


09-23-2011 10:22 AM #2 bsb85my (Member)

Weird. Previously I do not have problem with them. They paid me on time.


09-23-2011 10:34 AM #3 ppchound (Member)

The headline to this post probably means something totally different outside of the UK. But this is one Brit who just spat coffee all over his keyboard reading it LOL


09-23-2011 10:55 AM #4 dario (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ppchound View Post
the headline to this post probably means something totally different outside of the uk. But this is one brit who just spat coffee all over his keyboard reading it lol
AhahAh !


09-23-2011 11:12 AM #5 heavyt (Senior Member)

stop running with azoogle, period, they are paying people late or not paying people are their am's suck now. start running with a4d ewa wolfstorm I have a couple that I only go to now, we should start a rating system for companies on here honestly I'm tired of people running with people who are ripping off the little guy when they are just trying to get started.


09-23-2011 11:12 AM #6 ibanez (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by b28da6o0n View Post
So Azoogle owes me mid $xxxx between last month and this month's traffic, and my AM just told me that they have no idea when I will be paid. I'm only sending like $100-200 revenue per day but still, what the F*(& is this? Any suggestions on how I can get them to pay me? I'm probably going to threaten to send my traffic elsewhere (or just do it and wait for them to pay me before sending any more traffic). I would send them more revenue but given the way they're handling this I am very reluctant. Any suggestions?
Stop sending traffic, i mean seriously... there are so many threads(on other forums also) about them not paying, i dont understand why people still send them any traffic.


09-23-2011 11:13 AM #7 polarbacon (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by b28da6o0n View Post
So Azoogle owes me mid $xxxx between last month and this month's traffic, and my AM just told me that they have no idea when I will be paid. I'm only sending like $100-200 revenue per day but still, what the F*(& is this? Any suggestions on how I can get them to pay me? I'm probably going to threaten to send my traffic elsewhere (or just do it and wait for them to pay me before sending any more traffic). I would send them more revenue but given the way they're handling this I am very reluctant. Any suggestions?
first off why are you still sending traffic? They are having major cashflow issues and you are putting yourself at more risk.....

only real way is to threaten....like any other biz that does not pay the only way you could get your money is to threaten collections......

also for anyone reading this thread.....if your running with Epic I would highly suggest you talk to another network about getting that any offer you are running with them.....I cant see why anyone would put themselves at risk by working with azzogle/epic atm in time.....


09-23-2011 12:49 PM #8 eliquid (Member)

I cant speak for a4d, ewa, or wolfstorm ( well I can, cause I know they are very good networks ), but a lot of other networks will not give a fuck about XXXX owed to you. A lot of them wont even give you net7/weekly unless you hit XXXX so for a lot of them it a low threshold to be concerned about anyways.

With that said, Azoogle has been on a shit list for a little while already on other forums for not paying. When I first started in affiliate Azoogle, CX, Copeac and a few others where the top networks to be at, now 3-4 year later all those "giants" are pretty much worthless and full of BS.


09-23-2011 11:01 PM #9 st00rm (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by heavyt View Post
stop running with azoogle, period, they are paying people late or not paying people are their am's suck now. start running with a4d ewa wolfstorm I have a couple that I only go to now, we should start a rating system for companies on here honestly I'm tired of people running with people who are ripping off the little guy when they are just trying to get started.
Great idea about the rating and review system, I actually had a conversation about all this at adtech it won't b long until we need to start watching each others backs and sharing who's not fronting up with the due €$¥£


09-24-2011 02:23 PM #10 eliquid (Member)

^^ I started a thread somewhat on this on the board just the other day. Check it out


09-25-2011 08:03 AM #11 Ryan Eagle ()

This is getting worse and worse =/.


09-28-2011 03:33 AM #12 vuedoolor (Member)

I just got F***ed by lime light cpa but thank god I only wasted $200.00 on them. I am still waiting for my paycheck from EWA before I continue to send in more traffic cause it's been a week now and I haven't seen my check yet.

When you see lime light CPA "Run Forrest run!"


09-28-2011 04:27 AM #13 coop (AMC Alumnus)

I hate to see threads like this - the situation just keeps going farther downhill. Posts are popping up everywhere about them and other networks not paying.


10-04-2011 01:40 PM #14 captainflippy (Member)

I saw the threads about non payment and actually have a really good relationship with the company (or at least I thought). I haven't ran much traffic with them over the past 6 months but in July I sent $9K of traffic that I have yet to be paid for. It isn't the end of the world, but my affiliate business is only starting out. I decided to stop sending them any traffic and send my business elsewhere- I would suggest you do the same.

@coop- what other networks are your referring to that have not been paying?


10-04-2011 01:57 PM #15 rawservices (Member)

This is absolutely down right theft and should not be tolerated in this industry under any circumstances other than if you were sending fraudulent leads.....


10-04-2011 08:09 PM #16 z6marketing (Member)

Epic owed my friend five figures from two months back, didn't want to pay him. He's a nice guy and doesn't like to make waves. Those of you who know me know I am the exact opposite - I'll sink my teeth into your throat and refuse to let go until you pay me, even if its over $1.

So I started making calls and I got the shrug off a couple times. Then I started having him send emails to any address he could find there. One got escalated and the response he got back had the whole response chain in it - quoted email etc. One of those emails passed through a high up manager's inbox, so it had their contact info on it. A phone call to that guy's number later and a wire went out.

Needless to say he doesn't run traffic with them anymore, and I can't blame him.

This is becoming an incredibly common story with Epic Direct which is a shame cause when they were Azoogle they were solid.


10-04-2011 08:29 PM #17 PhilipShapiro (Member)

How else will they fund their playboy mansion parties?


10-04-2011 08:48 PM #18 klax (Member)

I thought Epic was Too Big Too Fail


10-04-2011 08:56 PM #19 currentstatus (Member)

Don't go with Azoogle/Epic - stop! Anyone with authority IM blogs should broadcast this.. the EX guys from Google have had a realization and are trying to clean up/exit - for their efforts.. Have you seen Epic IF recently - totally wank!

PLUS ----- If you get invites from 50onRed.com - do NOT comply do NOT enter your CC details - they will FUCK you over!


10-04-2011 09:00 PM #20 direwolf748 (Member)

I must ad to this also, it took them nearly 2 months to pay my friend $xx,xxx. He tells me they have been late with their payments each month the last few months and it has been the biggest hassle trying to get answers from the AM. You pretty much have to threaten them to get paid these days.


10-04-2011 09:32 PM #21 andymin (Member)

I stopped running with them and luckily received my July payment the other week. At least one of their offers is brokered elsewhere though, beware!


10-04-2011 09:42 PM #22 currentstatus (Member)

Come away guys (see with better eyes)... the IM world is too small and frustrating even for the hardest of us..

Anyone want to by SOLID squat traffic.. contact me!


10-05-2011 03:03 AM #23 consumercpa (Member)

Thanks for the heads up on epicdirectnetwork / azgoogle. Was doing some research before using them! TattoMedia is another network you shouldn't even bother applying to. You WONT be paid.


10-05-2011 03:13 AM #24 vuedoolor (Member)

We should start a thread with networks that don't pay LOL

Is there anything we can do if we are not paid or are we pretty much just shit out of luck?


10-05-2011 06:35 AM #25 pancakes (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by currentstatus View Post
Don't go with Azoogle/Epic - stop! Anyone with authority IM blogs should broadcast this.. the EX guys from Google have had a realization and are trying to clean up/exit - for their efforts.. Have you seen Epic IF recently - totally wank!

PLUS ----- If you get invites from 50onRed.com - do NOT comply do NOT enter your CC details - they will FUCK you over!
Details on 50onred? How did they screw you over?


10-13-2011 12:26 AM #26 snowverkill (Member)

I finally got wise today and stopped sending Epic traffic. They owe me ~$20k. Does anyone have solid / substantiated evidence that they're really going under? My AM "assures me" I will be paid eventually, though I'm starting to wonder.


10-13-2011 03:17 AM #27 mattias (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by snowverkill View Post
I finally got wise today and stopped sending Epic traffic. They owe me ~$20k. Does anyone have solid / substantiated evidence that they're really going under? My AM "assures me" I will be paid eventually, though I'm starting to wonder.
I would visit them in person for that amount (baseball bat behind the back maybe??)


10-13-2011 04:51 AM #28 z6marketing (Member)

Track down one of the managing partner's names on LinkedIn. Do a little google-fu and call him at his office/cell/home. Tell him whats up. You'll get paid.


10-13-2011 04:56 AM #29 snowverkill (Member)

Haha, I appreciate the suggestions. I'm less interested in breaking anyone's legs at this point, and more curious about whether there's any validity to these rumors about Epic going under. Does anyone here know what's going on over there first hand, or via some trustworthy source?


10-13-2011 05:20 AM #30 z6marketing (Member)

I was being serious. I wasn't saying to threaten anyone. That's how I got my friends 5 figures collected within 24 hours. You just gotta go high up the food chain and let them know whats up.


10-13-2011 05:46 AM #31 snowverkill (Member)

Haha, damn man. Good suggestion. *Thanked*


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