Need Super Affiliate Power - Goal to hit $70 / day. (33)

Greetings yall! A dude from South Cali. trying to make it in IM. I started with PPC last month but too costly so I switched to PPV after joining this forum! WHAT AN AWESOME DECISION I HAVE MADE!!!!!

Since August 1st, I have been going at this about 16-18 hours per day. I did lots of reading and learning and applying but I definitely need to do more of the applying part. This forum just ROCKS - do you agree with me?! The stuff in here are Golden and watching many of you share your information MOTIVATES ME - it has helped me Tremendously - although I still need more help So what the heck I'll share all I did so far here and wait for a beating.

Traffic Source: TrafficVance
Offers from PeerFly.com

My offers are iPhone 5 email submits - currently have 4 offers
This is a dilemma - all offers had conversions and pretty close.

Day [8]

OFFERS:

CT/Conversions/SU
Offer 1: 4 / 0 /0.00%
Offer 2: 6 / 1 / 16.67%
Offer 3: 5 / 0 / 0%
Offer 4: 5 / 1 / 20%

Hmm...Should I pause any of them now?

LANDING PAGE:

Clicks/CT's/Conversions/CTR

LP1: 554/19/2/3.43%
LP2: 230/1/0/0.43% ( I just paused this one earlier today )

Tomorrow I will be adding Audio (I think Traffic Vance Allows this). Do most of you add stuff any time during the day you see fit or I mean... How do you guys know when to edit your LP's - Is it end of each day? How much data is needed until doing so?

Cost: $8.07
Revenue: $3.90
Balance: -$4.17

I still have the rest of the day.

I made lots of mistakes last few days - lots of swapping LP's (creating new ones, made drastic changes, and changes to Offers as well and did something real dumb... I targeting root URL's that have a flood of traffic which depleted my daily budget - not once but twice (I finally paused it - well I saw a conversion so I kept it another day). :P

Right now I feel like I don't know what to do next. Do I create another LP? Do I work on another campaign? Do I just wait for this one to analyze more data. I'm getting a little frustrated because I think I have too much data if I look at it since 8/1. I made so many changes that I cannot read it.

I have worked on two other campaigns: 1) Verizon iPhone 4 offer 2) Walmart gift card DL. I have paused these because I learned I needed to target better but haven't had the change to research these.

Tomorrow I plan to either pause my iphone campaign and work on new campaigns - at least 3 per day. I think I did the last two within 30 minutes. Pretty easy to setup but the research should take a while. And of course the landing pages will take a while but I have someone helping me with graphics.

Here's the current CTR of 3.40% lander - I did what some of you suggested from a previous post I had in the PPV area or Newbie area I forget which...please let me know what you guys think and what else I can do to it. thanks


Gotta keep at this!!! Give me some of your Super Affiliate POWER guys!

If I make it to $70 / day by 8/31/2011 - I'm treating myself to a foot massage :P Anyone in South Cali want one? We can mastermind while we get rubbed.

your lander looks awesome..but i would definitively add some audio (allowed on tv) and i would make the "get a free iphone" more visible/bigger! and for your offers..it's way to less traffic to already make any decisions..but keep lp2 paused and throw in a third one

try to test: make one unbelievable img just a little bit bigger... it can help with your CTR

Reduce quality of images, they look too crisp. You need shit that loads quickly. And make the background on the ribbon white so it pops out more. Increase the font size as well.

Thanks Guys, I couldn't wait so I already put the Audio up on LP3 - Also I adjusted the image made it a little bigger and shitter (went from 5 sec load to 2 sec load time each - I know I still need to optimize them), switched around the headlines.

Right now too early to tell - got 53 impressions but no CT's yet.

So far CTR on the LP1 has dropped since earlier today when I posted the stats - 2.72% not good...but today I got the most Conversions to date.

Final Stats for Day 8 (I will post around this time each day):

Cost: $17.82
Revenue: $5.30
Balance: -$12.52
ROI: -70.26%

The red hurts...

I'm thinking maybe I am spending too much and should pause targets. I now have about 100 targets. I just paused the targets with 0 CT's.

Anyhow here's the LP3 with audio. Hope I don't scare them away - a women's voice "Congratulations, You are today's winner, please claim your prize in the next two minutes by entering your email address on the next page." Got that from bbrock32 hope that is coo. I think I need a more custom one for this - probably have to utilize Fiverr

I need to get help on how to make ribbon white. Probably have it done by tomorrow but switching the headlines helped I think - easier read.

Hey Danny, good stuff. Another lander you can give a try if you want On your current one it's not celar WHAT the user has to do as there is a CTA missing. I added one below each image which should increase your CTR.

That looks kick ass! I'll give this a run today.

I would make sure "Get a FREE iPhone 5" is more prominent.

So maybe the lander goes like;

Which iPhone 5 Design Do You Like Best?
Vote & Get a Free iPhone 5
(offer only applies to California residents)

You don't need "limited time" since you have the timer anyway.

I would also try "vote now" buttons.

I think your landing page is pretty sweet, it could be optimized.. but i think more importantly you need to spend a bit more $ first.

This will help you narrow down your converting targets a bit better, from there you can optimize your landing page.

Thanks Mr. Green - I'll give that a shot. My CTR is up today.

Thanks Stackman - I collected a lot of data the last 7 days however I have been adding and removing targets. I'm now finally targeting a specific group so thus the raise from 2.5% CTR to 4% today. Doubled my conversions today but still a lost which is coo as long as I'm progressing

Day [9]

So today I woke up 6:30 am to check the stock market. Then I decided to run a new campaign because of all the news about our tanking economy. So ended up creating a new lander using latest news. Also I tried out DL (very surprising).

1st - Lander with Audio - Got 0 conversions also the CTs was lower than the original. Very low CTR. Paused
2nd - Tried using the latest news on a new Lander - Got some good Clicks but only 1 conversion. Very low CTR as well. Paused
3rd - Added Blue Ribbon Lander to test against the Original. CTR is Even with the Original but 0 conversion. Keeping this one - prob need minor tweak.
4th - Tried to Direct Link the Offer that is currently kicking ass out of others I have tested. It actually did better than the rest got my more conversions but unfortunately I can't test the CTR since no lander. Used same keywords and URL's. (Don't worry I didnot up any bids so Didn't bid against myself but pretty much traffic was split maybe on some lower traffic sites?)

All in all - I did better today with all of your help! Thanks Guys! Including my bro iwanturcoin's thread - very inspiring. I'm trying my best to learn faster here.

Final Stats for Day 9

Clicks/ CTs / Conversion / CTR
Best Lander: 293/ 12/ 2/ 4.10%
2nd Lander: 306 / 12/ 0/ 3.92%

Cost: $34.08 (I ran more campaigns today - learned a lot so spent more today as well)
Revenue: $11.20 (highest number I have made in a day so far)
Balance: -$22.88
ROI: -67.14%

Still red but it's goin down!
If I had not tried the News Lander (I need to come up with something better) and the audio variation - it may have been very good

Can't wait for tomorrow!

It's 8:30pm here in the US west coast - I still gots 4-6 hours to do some more keyword research and creative thinking for different landers. IS this what you guys do each day? Remove losers and add new keywords daily to the list?

Also I am diving in for the Dating Niche tomorrow - Will check out some offers at NeverBlue - I heard from my AM it's doing very well.

- danny

Stackman, I set my daily budget to $35 but it only reached about $12 for my campaign with LP's. I'll look for more keywords and URL's.

Let me get this straight... so once I collect enough data by spending some more $, next step is to choose the single target that is getting the best CTR and conversion and target it and expand it?

What if all they targets get an even amount of conversions like right now they are all 1 conversion for each of the 10 targets that do well. What to do? Just keep running more traffic until I get even more numbers? I have so far spent about $250 the last 9 days - gotten so many impressions but few CT's in the beginning. However, there are two sites that gets mass traffic and I got 5 conversion for each but theses also drained my budget.

Let say I want to increase my daily budget to $150. How should I carefully pick my current targets? Should I gather 500 + targets or more?

Thanks

Hey danny, could you share your countdown script code on here? ive never tried putting one on my Landing pages before.

Originally Posted by w4rl0rdx

Hey danny, could you share your countdown script code on here? ive never tried putting one on my Landing pages before.

		<form name="counter" style="margin: 0px; margin-top:; text-align: center;">
	
		<input type="text" name="d2" style="float:left; border: 0px; background-color: yellow; font-size: 26px; color: #b70000; font-weight: bold; width:90px; padding:2px 4px 2px 0; margin:1px 16px 0 16px; text-align:center;" />

		</form>

		<script language="javascript">
			// timer

			var milisec=0
			var seconds=120
			document.counter.d2.value='120'
			function display(){
			if (milisec<=0){
			milisec=9
			seconds-=1 }
			if (seconds<=-1){
			milisec=0
			seconds+=1 }
			else
			milisec-=1
			document.counter.d2.value=seconds+"."+milisec
			setTimeout("display()",100)
			}
			display()
		</script>

Day [10]

20 more days...

So today is a bad day. I don't know what I did. I thought I targeted better by pausing bad targets. I thought my LP's were going to kick ass but everything just declined today.

My Campaign with the LP's:

New LP with voice + buttons and different Ad copy:
CTR: 3.5% 1 conversion

Offer LP rip did okay:
CTR: 3.54% 2 conversions

Original LP now doing bad:
CTR: 1.38% 1 conversion

Campaign with Direct Linking:
875 clicks - 0 conversions

Cost: $44.89
Revenue: $5.60
Profit: -$39.29
ROI: -87.53%

So today I worked on a new offer and I really research the keywords / URL more than I have before. It is still waiting for TV to approve my lander which is a Offer rip to quickly test these targets.

I looked at different Auto Insurance offers at 3 different networks getting it ready for tomorrow. Also got suggestions from AM on dating offers as well.

Will probably build a Lander tonight before I go to bed and setup the tracking etc.

Generally you want to run a bunch of URLs (the amount of URLs will depend on your budget). Then you slowly remove URLs that don't profit and keep URLs that do profit. Take the URLs that profit a lot and try to find more URLs related to those ones.

Eventually you should have lost some money from testing, but have narrowed down your URLs to only ones that have positive ROI and thus seeing a profit.

It's usually more complicated than that, and you'll run into many different things to question, but thats the general idea.

Originally Posted by danny27

I looked at different Auto Insurance offers at 3 different networks getting it ready for tomorrow. Also got suggestions from AM on dating offers as well.

Originally Posted by iwanturcoin

Awesome work dude...you'll def get some good results by the end of the month. FWIW I tried auto insurance to start with when i started my 30days a few weeks back and couldnt much to happen and I tried a fair few offers/angles. After speaking to my AM's at EWA and Wolfstorm they said that as a vertical auto insurance was'nt performing very well overall and there were'nt really any great offers around......just a thought for you. As soon as I started with dating and testing some recommended offers i've seen some good results. Good Luck!

Hmm... both my current landers are about 1700 ms - is this okay for speed? Wondering if it's the speed that is killing me...

Originally Posted by stackman

Generally you want to run a bunch of URLs (the amount of URLs will depend on your budget). Then you slowly remove URLs that don't profit and keep URLs that do profit. Take the URLs that profit a lot and try to find more URLs related to those ones.

Eventually you should have lost some money from testing, but have narrowed down your URLs to only ones that have positive ROI and thus seeing a profit.

It's usually more complicated than that, and you'll run into many different things to question, but thats the general idea.

Day [11]


Update! Best day so far!

Early morning campaign - all LP's were under 3%.

Then it hit me, I changed my Landers with a new idea + I paused the bad keywords that weren't working.

This was around near evening 6pm just 4 hours ago - made the changes uploaded about 3 new landers.

Every single Lander hit 10-12% CTR =) Conversions went up and today was my biggest day - about 100% increase in revenue.

Cost: $34.79
Revenue: $10.50
Profit: -$24.29
ROI: -69.82%

Still a lost but if I had these Landers in the morning to evening I may have made positive ROI.

Excited for tomorrow!!!!!!! I still need to work on coreg tonight. I signed up and got a call from Silver Path and I'm set just need to fill out an IO. I was reading the documents from them (contract) and could help to think so basically if someone gets sued - it's going to be me because I own the Lander. Anyhow, I need to read the rest and get it signed and scanned to them tomorrow. For sure this is the next big thing it seems from how great others are doin!

danny

Day [12]

Today I felt a bit lost again. Looks like I am improving this campaign but I don't know if I should keep at it. I feel like I am spending way too much time on this one. I didn't get to my Dating offer nor did I get my Coreg with Silver Path taken care of. I need to seriously stick to my daily goals and stop somehow channeling all my focus by watching the stats all day long and making minor tweaks?

I am getting close to the Green (i feel it) but my two main targets bids are too high now as each day goes. Started with 0.025, now it's 0.03+ to get #1. I don't know if tomorrow I will be able to make a profit. All other targets never made a single conversion although CTR is good. There is only 1 other target that made conversions but low traffic. So these 2 URL targets for the last 3 days (probably at least over 10,000 impressions) are the only winners. Can't think of anymore new Targets unless I totally change my lander.

Overall a good test day. Spent the most today and made the most today. Doubled my Revenue again but also lost more than ever lol I'm -$50 today.

My best new Lander surprisingly did 11.62% with 10.71% SU. Pretty good for just a button text change.

ROI -2.23%

Did bad on Conversion for the rest of the Landers.

I need to install Prosper202 - tracking the $ is a pain atm and typing out the stats here take me a while. Need to screen shot stuff and upload here

Any suggestions appreciated. Need some new ideas... and need to work faster. I really need to time manage my day better. Lack of sleep really gets me in the morning. Maybe I need to drink coffee again or some strong tea.

I'm hearin ya with the feelin lost thing, i got that a bit a few weeks ago every now then but seems to have gone now. What helped me lot was making a well defined task list before i went to bed so I know exactly what I have/want to get done the next day and just cross it off as you go. I f I did'nt have a plan for the day i found i'd be unproductive and just fumble around which just makes you feel worse. Even if things aren't going great you feel a lot better if you complete what you set out to do for the day.

Definitely get onto prosper202 helps a lot, although if you can afford it prob just get familiar with CPVLab....i plan on buying it when i get $2k in the black, bit of incentive thing

^^ Thanks mate!

Day [13]

My landers are just getting better and better - today I hit 14% CTR from yesterday's 11%. I just made changes and mod a few more for tomorrow - I hope to hit at 20% CTR because my conversions are very low (3% averaged - my best was a little over 10%) after the massive data I collected today. I pretty much up'ed the daily limit again! $100. (I'll calm down tomorrow). Reason for it is because I found 3 targets doing very well with CTR + Conversion in the morning. Seems always in the morning conversions and CTR does best. Then later during the day it just shoots down - wasn't hawking it during the day because had some errands.

Anyhow, I tweaked my landers to aim for better conversion. Fingers Crossed hope it ups a bit tomorrow. I'm getting so close to positive ROI. GREEN HERE I COME!

As for my Dating campaign - I just created it now! Yay! Feels good. Finally check off my list.
I will have to un-pause my auto insurance offer and work the lander.

Tomorrow is a new day for improved productivity. As I promised myself - 3-5 campaigns each day till Day [30]. Gotta work harder here too like the rest of y'all! We need to fill many pages of campaigns on TV or whichever traffic source you use.

My Coreg path papers all ready to go for SilverPath Monday. By then I hope to hit higher conversions so I could integrate the path and make good CR to make up for my loses so far and get this one on autopilot.

Back to work!

I learned that it's not really worth promoting submits on PPV unless you capture leads first and direct them to the offer. Advertisers scrub hard on submits.
Try promoting more solid offers like dating and credit reports.

@ d3so

Yeah work'in on my first Dating offer. I like the payout on these

Got my first Traffic Vance rejection. "Offer Considered "Adult" and is in violation
of Trafficvance Terms & Conditions."

What other traffic sources are more lenient on this?

Day [14]

Majority of the day was rest day - spent time with the gf and family.

When I woke up, checked my stats - my Auto Insurance campaign in TV did not run - required approval - I set that up last night so maybe they just didn't get to it. Usually they are really quick. It didn't get approved until in the evening I believe. Anyhow $10 spent 0 conversions. CTR 1.36 . Will improve it!

Full day tomorrow - Will try out other offers!

Currently reading up on basics again - looking into VPS hosting. Could my low numbers be because I was using shared?

I know Beyond Hosting is recommended here - which one do you guys think would suit a beginner?

Starter VPS512N VPS1024CAM VPS1024CLM ?

I also should get the Prosper202 VPS hosting since I need Prosper202.

Thanks!

Day [15]

Alright guys so today got my Beyond Hosting VPS set up and prosper202 installed all set already to go. BH team really got my stuff up and running fast! I signed up in the morning and was ready an hour later - but I just had to wait for my domain name to propagate.

They installed Prosper for me as well. Anyhow, tested out prosper202 - didn't like it. It lacked lots of capabilities (I'm use to using Magic Bullet System 2.0 so yeah I'm spoiled). You can't put the payout amount for each Offer if you want to rotate them!

Also, my pixels didn't fire either. And I think you can create an MBS campaign a lot quicker than in Prosper - it's just how everything is placed - UX aspects. Or maybe I'm just use to MBS. So wondering how's CPVLab compared to MBS?

Split Testing Server Speeds
I did a split test on whichloadsfaster.com and YUP there is a different in speed of course! Also if you further analyze with the their analytical tool - the in-depth report really shows the difference. Very impressive.

I can't wait for tomorrow - I'm split testing it on the same campaign. So it's hostgator shared hosting vs. BH VPS.. haha not fair right there but I just want to see if any difference in CTR + CR at all. I just have a feeling CTR may be a little higher along with conversions.

I spent $350+ (learned a whole lot though) on my iPhone campaign only to made back about $110 so would like to further test and just know if speed was also a factor here. My lowest views per day on hostgator was about 500 and highest was 8000. So we'll find out tomorrow night.

Currently I got 3 other campaigns set up ready to go tomorrow as well. All of them using the new VPS setup.

My SilverPath account is ready to go, I am signed up with DirectCPV, Neverblue as well so I'm all set. What else is there?

Awesome guys! I feel like I gots the right tools to kick some serious ass

Anyhow, going to read up and get more creative on landers, find more offers, and create more campaigns. I'm going to go crazy with campaigns this week to make up for last week!

Will update y'all tomorrow!

Day [16]

Looks like I am over the half way point. Getting the hang of optimizing campaigns, modifying landers, and narrowing down on targets. Still need better ideas and be more creative with adcopy. This forum is awesome! Got my hands on some great resources (free landers) to work with. So I'll be utilizing these and try to kick some more ass in the CTR area. The higher CTR, the higher the Conversions. So far one of my campaigns gets pretty good CTR but low conversions - need to work on it.

Last few days was just catching up with basics: 1. new server (VPS 2. Checking out better tools 3. learning what the really successful folks here are doing with their landers 4. learning what COREG path is and getting signed up 5. getting acquainted with other PPV networks and CPA networks - so now I have two of each I am using on my campaigns.

Today I cleaned up my campaigns and got things organized, transferred the rest of files over to the VPS - created a few more landers for my current 5 campaigns. None of them are making $ yet but got some ideas that I will be testing out.

So our test with VPS vs shared hosting - not a big difference or at least not enough data yet. Ran it just for today - about 400 views each. VPS at 16.5%, shared hosting at 14% so there is a little different. Conversion once again low.

Other campaigns - 0 conversions - another one was pending approval all day from directcpv. CTR is low though - under 4% but that's because my landers were plain - I was just testing if offers would convert. I did two with DL's. Spruced up the landers just a little while ago and will further test tomorrow.

Will add a few more new campaigns tomorrow and we'll see what we can find.

I must focus on creating the best damn lander this week! (Dating niche) Hope to have 20 campaigns by Friday.

I should have purchased CPVlab by Friday and have it all set up as well. Can't wait to check it out!

Currently on auto-pilot - focusing on fb atm. About to buy the cloaker from PB.

Will update in about a month thanks

Wow! Thanks for sharing in this thread. I'm feeling like you were six months ago but after reading your thread - I am motivated to push through the learning curve.

Update 2015:

STM Thank you. I had a great run from 2012 and 2013. I took a long break after that. I'm back to dabble into Youtube for 2015!

Find me in the Video Follow-Along section soon.