Any SEO people in here? Need Help! (24)
Whats the best way to achieve high rankings for a niche site for a specific keyword? Do you guys outsource this? I dont have time to use scrapebox, senuke, xrumer and all that crap for link building would rather pay a company like 500-1k or whatever to rank a site and im done.
Any tips/pointers to what company? Im assuming Rankpay is the best considering they are first for seo services!
Where did you see RankPay recommended?
Rankpay - lol
Never used them but its completely unreasonable.
So, you want to rank without putting in any work? If you find out how, please let me know.
SEO = hard work.
I have 2 full time link builders and its still hard work. Linkbuilding is not a one off thing. If you are in competitive verticals you have to stay ahead.
I won't recommend using those automated spam tools to get links. Its not a long term solution. Buy PR links for quality and use private blog networks for volume backlinks.
My experience has been that the most important factors for a niche site are the on-page factors. Use a lot of theme words (words that are related to the keyword . . . NOT just variants of the keyword!). For example, if I had a niche site on baseball bats, I would include words like umpire, stadium, pitcher, etc.
My best niche site has pulled in $3,500 in AdSense earnings. The traffic has come from 5,500 different keywords. Only 3% of the visitors came from searching from the main keyword. This is because I have it full of theme words.
Well I think its safe to assume that the companies promoting SEO services is the best when they are first in google search results .. no? That would be rankpay, not to mention they dont even have the keyword in their domain so i think they did a pretty good job.
Anyways, i understand link building is a tough job, I can definitely do some on my end, but the majority I dont want to do, id rather pay and im sure thats possible... SEO = someone elses hard work.
Originally Posted by vidivo
Originally Posted by machete
Vidivo, I'm more interested in the keyword you're trying to rank for than anything else.
That's what will determine whether you get on the first page / first position next week or in 5 years of consistent promotion.
Sorry, but $500 - $1000 one time, unless you're talking about a real long-tail phrase, will not get you on the first page if you're talking about a very competitive phrase.
Long-tail, low competition phrases: simply buying the right domain name and placing a WP blog on there can sometimes do the trick.
Short, competitive phrases: can take YEARS of consistent promotion - at $1500-$2500/mo if you pay someone else to do it.
Do this:
Take your phrase, in phrase match (with quotations around it) and search for it in Google.
See how many other sites are competing for that exact phrase.
This should give you an idea of how easy / difficult it would be to get it ranked up there.
http://screencast.com/t/yHIHnE6Qwt
If you want easy to rank terms to go after you can join IMeye.
Its pure gold although its quite expensive. With the right filters you can rank in a couple of days. Build a few dozen of sites around those keywords and you can easily do $100-$200 per day.
Low competition = easy to rank but you need a lot of sites/keywords to make up volume.
High competition = BIG $$$ but you need a deep pocket and lots of patience to rank.
I have used linkvana.com in the past.
They are a privately owned network of high PR Blogs In all different types of verticals / niches.
You can submit as many blog posts as you would like or have Link vana staff do it for you $2 a post, each post can contain
(2) anchor text links and they will be posted on a blog with PR's of 2 - 5.
Distribute Your articles is another service I'm currently using. You submit one article to them and they send it off to a bunch of other sites and you get a poop load of back links for one article.
linkvana = $147/month
dya = $50/month
Word.
SEO is hard work and outsourcing gets mixed results. You're just as likely to get good results from someone on Fiverr.com as you are some company who are ranking highly for SEO in Google.
The best way to get free SEO traffic is to take your main keyword (your seed keyword) and generate plenty of long tail keywords.
You then sprinkle those long tail keywords throughout the content on your site.
Then you need to build a variety of backlinks to your keywords - remember link variety is very important.
To outsource this entirely, you can create your keyword list, get someone to write you say a dozen articles with those keywords in there. Then hire someone to post a few of them on some key article sites. Take a couple more and pay someone to spin them reasonably well and post them on a service like UAW. Pay someone to do a small forum profile linkwheel and maybe someone to even do a blog comments blast.
You need to make sure you have the content on your site with the long tail keywords and make sure the people you outsource to have a bunch of deep links and things to link to so they can have a variety of links to rotate through.
So yes, you can totally outsource this, but it is plenty of moving parts to manage.
Well to clear things up since im getting mixed responses...
Im not going for super high and competitive keywords. 1. because i know its competitive 2. because its a lot of money, sure you can make a lot but im more towards the long term and not have to keep the site fresh with new backlinks all the time due to competition.
So with that said, ive been creating a ton of niche sites, exact match domain names with around 3-10k exact searches per month and would like to get them ranking 1st spot. 3-10k is not a lot per month, but enough if you have a few hundred to really make bank and get easily consistent 5 figure income per month..
Now i have one link network im working with and also own xrum and scrapebox, and tried senuke with mixed results, but the bottom line is that when i create a bunch of these sites, it takes a LOT OF TIME to do the links, even with my own tools and id rather pay like 500-1k per site for one keyword.. i dont think they will charge more than that, but outsourcing to like 10 different dudes to do random crap like forums etc, again, takes too much time and rather just give a project to one company and be done with it... not to mention im not too woried about competition.. usually i can beat them myself... once i get traction..
Also no im not going for the keyword make money online, one because its not a buy keyword.. wink wink and because its obviously competitive..
My on page SEO is excellent and ive read up on tons of info to know exactly what google wants for a site, not to mention i get pretty good articles for them as well and keep it updated with a autoblogger... all i need is the backlinks to be ranking in no time.. so if anyone has any suggestions what company to use, im all ears.. ive contacted a ton and will wait till the week arrives to see what responses I get..
Also with rankpay, they say you dont pay until you rank, not to mention their seo for their own company is top notch, their ranking first for a competitive keyword so im sure they can handle a few 1***k searches ones.. 
Originally Posted by liane
Originally Posted by vidivo
Seems like you know SEO. Other than hiring a company to rank stuff for you (and yes, if they don't charge unless you rank - why the hell not???), another option would be to get yourself some part-time or full-time outsourcers in the Philippines or in India. Just a thought. Seems like the better option for you might be a company so you don't have to sit there & train anyone.
Originally Posted by vidivo
It would take weeks and most likely months to be able to grasp your mind around the different strategies, tools, etc... that you'll need to do it yourself. I could go on for 10 pages about how I would go about it, but that'll most likely do nothing but confuse you and will bring about more questions.
If I were you, I'd probably take a look at the wickedfire forums in the Buy/Sell/Trade section, with the Links/SEO subsection. In there, you'll find different service providers for any and all types of links you would most likely need to reach your destination. Just scan through, see which ones have good reviews, and test 'em out for your target keyword(s). Wait 1-2 weeks, check ranking improvements, buy more seo services. Repeat
Good luck
"seo is hard work, a pain in the ass, blablabla..." - not true if you ask me! i restartet doing seo about a year ago and had great success without spending a lot of time or money. ranking #1 for a keyword with 30.800.000 results.
my oberservations during this time:
- it's much easier to rank for a trend keyword (new app, online game, smartphone, celebrity story) than for an "old" keyword. with a trend keyword you can register a new domain and rank on the first page in days. even if there are millions of results. for on old keyword, you should buy an already indexed domain with a few years of age. otherwise you need to be very patient (weeks to months - depending on the keyword).
- the classics still work very well: directory- article- social bookmark- submission. get sure to spin your titles, descriptions etc. and split your submissions over a periode of weeks. of course i'm too lazy to do this job by my own! my recommendation: http://www.wlmarketing.com/.
- i usually buy a few topic related high pr links. you can do this on http://linkworth.com/ or any other link trade platform.
- BOOM! rank & cash
ps: hope my english is readable guys! i'm austrian. we are speaking german over here and drinking beer. but will improve it in las vegas @ november 
cheers
Ehh if your just trying to pay someone to rank you for your keywords your never going to make it. Just think about it, if someone could rank for profitable keywords why would they just not rank themselves and monetize their own traffic.
If you want to rank for something competitive, or even semi-competitive, you just have to put some time and money into it. Your much better off doing this yourself than trying to hire some bs SEO company.
Just get a diversified link portfolio (directory submits, blog networks, web 2.0, blog comments, social bookmarks, profiles, press release, sitewide ect ect). Start off your links slow and increase the volume over time. Contact other sites in your niche and get sitewide links is key when you have competition (PR 3+++). You need to get quality links if it's competitive. Then build links to those links.
You can use scrapebox and xrumer (to make it easy use DFB for xrumer) but those will only rank you well for trending terms by themselves (which is pretty much all I did when I was concentrating on SEO because it was quick and easy). They are powerful tools for competitive niches as well but just use them correctly. Use them to build links to your links.
Spam will get you there but quality will keep you there. Seo is a marathon, not a sprint. So keep that in mind (other than trending terms which I love 
)
Go and look up in Google 'The Challenge' with Ed Dale and the crew - 30 days of step by step SEO for building your niche website - then if you want to keep up the daily work, subscribe to The Edge, their premium membership program where you will find all you could ever need on ranking sites, building Content Clusters, Adsense clusters, etc.... Best training on the web... and they pull no punches that it's hard work.. But combine that with the skill you have with paid traffic which allows you to test a niche quickly to see if there are buyers and opportunities... then you can do some damage.
As everyone has stated - there are NO shortcuts to SEO.. It takes time, persistence and you'd be a fool to not use outsourcers to build QUALITY backlinks and content for you - these companies promising No1 rankings for 3k are full of sh#t to be blunt.
Originally Posted by chris_m
You might spend 500-1k or more and get on the first page but you won't stick there without a lot of work and fully understanding how SEO works. If you don't know the ins and outs of SEO you won't now how to outsource effectively.
My SEO sites pay my bills but SEO is about as fun as a root canal. Things are changing all the time... Something you may have spent 2k doing last year may get you de-indexed next week.
Rankpay is garbage.
Read my ultimate SEO post I am posting in 5 minute.
Originally Posted by vidivo
Locally we have contracts for my clients but if we're doing transaction online then it's all about whether you trusting me or not..
PM me if you're interested though.
Joe
hi i'm new to this forum but have been doing seo successfully for a while what i suggest you do if your on a budget is this
firstly sign up to a service called build my rank - you get to add ten 300 word articles with your kw which are placed on high ranking sites for free
secondly go to fiverr and pick 4 gigs
1 - get UAW submission gig (pm me and i'll give you his details) this will generate about 300 links to your site
2 - get angela profile links from the top provider
3 - get edu links from the top provider
4- get social bookmarking from top provider
this should get you to first page if your search term is between 1000 and 5k searches per month for $20 and its not massively competitive- if its harder then that at least you can guage dependent on your ranking what extra effort you need to put in
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