Anyone know which 7search traffic souces are legit?? (26)

Just wondering if anyone happens to have a list of legit or nonlegit traffic source ids on 7search or a way to filter through the garbage which is like 90% so you can block them, or if you want to sell them or something, please post or pm, thanks

I am interested too...

Just test and see.

lol, guess it never hurts to ask right? I don't think I'll be handing that information over for some reason. I'd be curious if anyone here has cracked $5000 a day on there, the best I can get it averaged out over a month is a few grand a day but every dollar in profit counts for something.

Lol, im still trying to crack 10 dollars a day there :P

yeah same here. peraction > what sort of stuff are you pusing via 7search to do decent numbers?

also - i havent looked into this yet but if anyone can give a pointer on how to filter by traffic source that would be awesome!

I've run through quite a lot of traffic in the past with 7search and they will not reveal their traffic sources. I dug a little deeper and they have a few partners (especially, one big one based out of Russia) that run huge volume for certain *ahem* keywords. Turns out they have a network of SEO spammers and Adwords cloakers that direct traffic to the 7search partner feed.

7search will allow you to track traffic sources, just call them and they set up the option on your front panel where you can enter traffic source id's to block, very useful since 90% of clicks are bs, is there at least a way to track sources through a landing page so that you know what id's clicked on your aff offer and which didnt, to know what to block. anyone?

thanks spartan1 - the 2nd part of your post is the key -> i need to be able to pass pubid to cpvlab so I can see which ones are just crap and then exclude those to block.

How oh how?

2nd question - what type of campaigns work well on 7 search?

awesome thanks pancakes. Id seen the top paying keywords one, but not the top searches!!

ps - replace 500 with 1000 in the URL and you have the top 1000 keywords

np tijn, thx for the top 100 searches pancakes, id just do broad targeting for broad offers, insurance, diet, biz op, dating. I know this is prevy information, but I figured since were all paying 100/month for this forum then were all pretty serious about this, not a bunch of newb like the other forums. I'll continue to share what I can, would be nice to know at least the major traffic source ids responsible for the majority of the 90% of fraudelent traffic to block, theyre probly like 50-200 ids or less I'm guessing. Would Google analytics help distinguish this or any other traffic quality testers (Click Forensic maybe) like how long they stay on the page or something?

Hey guys,
yep, to be able to block partner ids on 7Search you need to contact your rep and ask for them to enable this in your account, also ask them explicitly to get this feature enabled on a per campaign basis (else you'll only be able to block partners from your entire account). You can also ask them to enable blocking of referer domains and add a day parting feature as well.

Once partner id blocking is enabled you can pass the tokens ###AFFID### and ###RID### (rid is sub-partner ids), personally I pass this as ###AFFID###-###RID###. For example in cpvlab you would append an extra parameter to the campaign with url append like this: &partner=###AFFID###-###RID###.

If you're using cpvlab and add the partner id as extra parameter you can also see which partner id's are giving hi/low engage rate and landing page ctr + you can check daily trends and daypart based on that (You'll need to ask for dayparting to be enabled in your 7Search account).

Not sure how to make referer domain blocking work in cpvlab though (is there a way to connect subid to http referer?), so I haven't really paid attention to this feature since moving from my own custom php tracking to cpvlab.

In my experience all kind of niches/offers can work on 7Search if you go for targeted keywords, some stuff seems to work with more broad higher volume traffic as well. The traffic is pretty good considering you can block partner ids. The biggest challenge in my experience with 7Search is the relatively low overall traffic volume. As an example I got a couple niche clickbank offers running right now direct linked that are making good ROI, however these offers are only making me a few hundred dollars a month combined since there aren't huge masses of traffic. There are markets where you can get more volume than this though.

Don't get discouraged if an offer doesn't work though, you need to test a lot of them. I've seen email submits convert less than 1% and a credit report offer convert at 5-10% (direct linked, with no partner id blocking).

Overall I'd definently say it's a great place to get started on search, especially with a low budget. My avg cpc there right now is 0.07

huge! thanks for that

Back in the day I did a bit of the darkside and was sending cloaked traffic via 7search...i.e the traffic they are selling.

7search has a network of traffic providers and the vast majority of it are Russian spammers who use all means possible to send traffic through 7search sub providers.

The basic set up is:

Spammer>>>7Search Affilaite Company>>>7Search>>>Traffic Buyer (You)

Theres a bunch of 7search affiliate companies but one of the biggest up until a while ago was klikvip.....this has now merged into bidtraffic.com

The bulk of the members are serious guys who send some big traffic volumes, primarily from crap sources.

For more info about how they work and what else they are involved in the take a look at;

Russian forum

dog is right. when ever someone says 7search is shit I ask. Compared to what other 2nd tier Ezango? FIQ ?

Im not going to out verticals but I can say domestically I have had everything I ran over the last 3yrs convert there if it converted at all and sometimes they would convert better than elsewhere or at all. In fact one of the funnier things is I have had in the past a great success with EWA offers and 7search.

The traffic 'slutting' is not new or just them. If you become freinds with engineers at traffic companies over a few beers you find out the truth.

"Just about everyone is selling everyone elses traffic. Its a HUGE incestuous bed" [ I have some great stories from San Jose SES about the major traffic companies and the REAL TRUTH behind their relations and how they feel about each other ]

I even have one company that if you pay .30 above bid and they can get ads on google that no way you could run and no cloak needed.

So, as "alice in wonderland" things are not always what they seem. :P

Phoenix, Can I buy you a beer to buy them a beer?

Originally Posted by phoenix

I even have one company that if you pay .30 above bid and they can get ads on google that no way you could run and no cloak needed.

ya I was 'mind-blown' with what he told me and showed too.

Wtf i'd pay 30 cents easily above bid for some stuff. Probably much higher too, wow.

I have some ZIP/email submit campaigns I was able to turn profitable within a week on 7search. Low-dollar stuff for now, but it's gotten my attention.

With 7search you need to request campaign-level SubID and Domain blocking. They are not enabled by default, and are in a weird location (My Account/Account Tools). I don't recall if Campaign Scheduling is enabled by default, but of course you want this as well.

Using the standard Prosper set up on the VPS, it is showing the domain for almost every click so I am gradually able to eliminate under-performing referrers. I am running mostly email/ZIP submits within the US from 8 am to 11 pm, but also some International dating offers round the clock. I am not seeing any noticeable fraud problem.

The key for SubID tracking on 7search is to pass through the tag ###AFFID###-###RID###. This is actually two tags, but you need both parts. In most cases the publisher (AFFID) will be sending the kind of traffic you want, but may have a sub-affiliate (RID) sending traffic that doesn't convert. You need this combined tag for your SubID blocking.

Of course you also want to pass through the ###KEYWORD### tag. I start off Broad matching, then move promising keywords to Phrase and customize the ad copy.

PM me anyone looking to grow your ad spend with 7search to compare notes.

BRILLIANT!
and I was making money on 7search WITHOUT that.

cant wait to 'cut the fat'

Originally Posted by theandyman

I have some ZIP/email submit campaigns I was able to turn profitable within a week on 7search. Low-dollar stuff for now, but it's gotten my attention.

With 7search you need to request campaign-level SubID and Domain blocking. They are not enabled by default, and are in a weird location (My Account/Account Tools). I don't recall if Campaign Scheduling is enabled by default, but of course you want this as well.

Using the standard Prosper set up on the VPS, it is showing the domain for almost every click so I am gradually able to eliminate under-performing referrers. I am running mostly email/ZIP submits within the US from 8 am to 11 pm, but also some International dating offers round the clock. I am not seeing any noticeable fraud problem.

The key for SubID tracking on 7search is to pass through the tag ###AFFID###-###RID###. This is actually two tags, but you need both parts. In most cases the publisher (AFFID) will be sending the kind of traffic you want, but may have a sub-affiliate (RID) sending traffic that doesn't convert. You need this combined tag for your SubID blocking.

Of course you also want to pass through the ###KEYWORD### tag. I start off Broad matching, then move promising keywords to Phrase and customize the ad copy.

PM me anyone looking to grow your ad spend with 7search to compare notes.

Do you guys have the following ticked, ... and what does it actually mean?

- I want to increase exposure by appearing in the Predictive Search™ column.
- I want to increase exposure by appearing in the Contextual Network (e.g. AccessoryAds).

I presume the contextual network is similar to Googles, although rife with russian / chinese pr0n sites etc.

Are either of these two options likely to be profitable..? I guess the 2nd option can be tracked by SubID, ... but the first?

Thx!
Steve

Guys This is old post but wanted to add my thoughts. I can turn 6 out of 10 campaigns profitable in 7search. The trick is ask them to block sub ids ii, Get your prosper202 to track campaigns iii, In Prosper202 to Overview >> Group Overview and sort the stuff and take out the sub ids which are sending more than 100 clicks but no conversions. iv, Change the ads to prequalify the prospect eg. "Starting from $100 etc and tweak .