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Has anyone tried MochiMedia with any sucess? (47)

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Hello ,

I was wondering if someone had any luck with MochiMedia ? If so

Can you spare a few tips what converts best , because almost all gaming offers have a low payout so its really hard to get profitable

Any advice?

Thanks

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How many have you tested?

Low payout does not mean you cannot be profitable.

Go international and bid CPC. You must get super high CTR's to make it work. Aim for 1% CTR on your banners

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i'm playing around with mochi media too..international..right now i have a 7% ctr with cpc but i still have to pay $0.14 cpc to get traffic..i'll try cpm bidding to..maybe i can get my click prices down that way

and you said you need a high ctr with cpc..i always thought that the clickprices will stay the same with cpc bidding no matter what ctr you have.

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Weird, I just posted about this in ppvplaybook, I'll share:

If you get a good offer that converts well there you can definitely bank hard.. I've always done US and CPM bidding high, doing that I've gotten amazing ctr and tons of clicks. I've only tested the 300x250 ads and making your own gifs ugly as hell does wonders.

Bidding CPM in US can get you spending huge #s/day and if you have a good clickable ad you'll have no problem getting a lot of clicks. Below is an image that was getting me .02 clicks in the US.

Here's one of my profitable ads using the offer's image and a little editing in photoshop:

note the image text blinked quickly red and blue like 1 or .5 sec delay I can't remember. Play around with ads though, my highest ctr is 14%

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In your image, can they actually move the cannon?

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i've had a few profitable campaigns there.. but never CTR's that high so i'm not testing enough i think.. care to share what types of bids your making? (i'm curious if a higher bid might boost up the CTR's a lot) i know suggested is like $2CPM US right?

Also do you do downloads? DL / LP? browsers? I never have luck with downloads at least lately but some browsers have converted well enough to profit.

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how do you guys split test categories?

one by one with one ad? or ONE category per SAME AD. so like 12 same ads running on diff categories.

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bad CTR on CPC won't get you impressions - they don't make money cause they can sell it CPM otherwise. With CTR that high you should go CPM for sure. CPC can be good to test on low budget.

Most of the mainstream CPA games (Fiesta, Wizard101, Allodds ec.) did really shit for me there.

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No it's just a still image. Only the text blinked ridiculously fast.

I've always done high cpm bids there (hint: penny trick similar to POF). Don't over think your ads. These ads pop up in game while people are playing usually between levels or right before they begin the game. Make it simple and to the point. All I've tested was downloads there.

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Wow that CTR is insane!

I'm guessing a lot of those clicks have to be from stupid people clicking on the ad in an attempt to get their game to load or something?

@groomez: If you don't mind sharing, how much did you profit from that ad/$100?

$100 for 5k clicks is nuts in my book! Signing up there now!!@

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I think about 500-600 bucks I don't recall exactly.

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awesome man! thanks for the info am giving it a shot and will report back

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I hope this isn't hijacking the thread - Is MochiMedia only for gaming traffic?

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I'm certainly not qualified to answer this question, but I would say - no. I'm pretty sure they will let you advertise anything you want (that fits within their TOS) there. You'll probably just have much much better luck promoting games there, as the users are already in that mindset (play games nurga) before your ad even gets shown to them

I'd wait for an authoritative response though, just my two cents

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Duballa, that's all i wondered - is if they provide gaming traffic. Not into that. thanks

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OK, I see why Mochi sucks now. Impressions come in SLOOOOOOW as molasses, even with a fairly high CPM bid set. At this rate it will take them all month to spend my $100

I am seeing a high CTR on the first ad I tested though, much higher than the same banner was getting on gaming-related websites, and so far the campaign is definitely profitable but there is no volume here it seems.... (available volume rather)

Has anybody signed up as a premium advertiser there ($5,000/month minimum)? I am thinking this might be the only way to make real money with mochi

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try raising your bids..i was able to get a 10% ctr and received a ton of volume..!

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This all day.

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Will give it a shot

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Ok so I raised my CPM bid, but haven't seen anything moving... how long does it take to go into effect in your experience?

Or maybe I just didn't raise it up enough... Fuck I'm near $5 CPM bid though, I dunno if I can bid more than that and remain profitable without testing some more ads and optimizing

Not that that's an issue, just need to get busy on it If the volume is there (and it works out) then I will be there too!

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whats your ctr and are bidding cpm or cpc? country?

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CTR is around 8%, bidding CPM, country > US

Maybe I should also mention that I also unchecked a few of the categories like Action, Adventure, Fighting, as they didn't really seem related to the game I'm promoting...

I did see a bit of movement after upping the bid to $4.82, but it was only an additional 100 impressions, nothing else since then. Honestly I think I would have gotten those impressions anyway if I would have just kept my bid around $2.

So I'm thinking maybe the country is the issue, the US is too hot there or there are too many brand advertisers targeting US maybe?

I could try some international gaming offers I guess?

btw, thanks so much for the help & advice so far, it's making this testing a lot more bearable... Mochi's platform is kind of frustrating to use and leaves a lot to be desired

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It might be just that your ad is just approved today?

I've been testing the last few days, only getting around 6-8k impressions a day at 2.25 cpm on USA. I've spent $50 already, made around $5. Need to change the images but need to know what's up with this impression thing. Not getting enough.

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@tino: What's your CTR?

My ad was approved yesterday afternoon, I've gotten approx. 2500-2600 impressions so far between then and now.. Need 1000X that

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I've got 4% as my lowest, 10% at my highest. I've got several banners running.

I just raised my cpm to $6 to check out if it makes a difference. Getting 10 clicks every 5 seconds right now. Going to just let it run for my final budget(another $50 or so) then see the data.


Terrible conversions though, 2 conversions for 1500 clicks is CRAZY low.

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I haven't tested bidding as high as you guys (in the US) this week i was testing an MMORPG game (popular one) and the conversions just sucked so i pulled it for now. But i was bidding around $2.30-$2.45. Just to double check are you checking the "as fast as possible" or even box? I believe the dates you set for your campaign will also affect how your impressions are served as well. If I find any thing new this week i'll be sure to post it.

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I've done both as fast as possible and even. I made a few campaigns for each, as well as testing cpm. From .2 cpm to $6 cpm, $6 and you get all the impressions I think lol.

For either thing, I get a ton of clicks but the conversions are not there for me. multiple variations of ads as well, just 2 conversions.

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yeah the volume is there but the cvr is horrible

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@tino: super weird man... I just saw your post and raised my bid to $6.01 CPM () about 15 minutes ago.... It hasn't made a difference whatsoever, in fact I haven't gotten 1 single impression more the whole time... Setting it back down now.. Actually I'm gonna put it at like $.50 and see what happens.. I bet I will get the same amount of impressions as I have been getting!

This platform is hella whack.

I dunno, maybe it has something to do with the fact that I unchecked about 1/3 of the "category" options.

Do you guys set it to "Show my ad in all categories"?

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I actually get a better ctr when I choose all categories. I've tried testing individually and overall it was better choosing all.

lol, you must of stopped my impressions because I stopped getting any a few minutes ago.

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Haha, I tried it out.

Not the best platform.

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Use these variables, to optimize your placements:
${cc} is for the country code
${category} is for the category.

I'm using these with CPVLab (but it works with prosper too), like this: randomtrackingdomain.com/base.php...&keyword=ad1_${cc}_${category} (ad2, ad3 etc.)

Mochi CAN convert well, just need to test and optimize your placements / ads.

(Thanks to oksana for this.)

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Tested a few new offers.

Be creative with your placements and your offer, it WILL pay off. Also, hit up EWA and they told me that a few of those game offers are not converting for them network wide. Hit up your network manager and ask for the best display performing gaming/lead offers.

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Solid thread here. Had a question and wanted to see if anyone knew the answer. I am trying to run a few Mightymagoo game installs on Mochi Media ie. a Mario Game. However, Mochi ads keeps disapproving any ads I submit since I am not the "copyright holder." Any idea how to respond to this or what a solution would be? Does MightyMagoo have rights to build games themed under copyrighted material?

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Mochi has been disapproving a lot of stuff lately. Used to be as long as it wasn't an email sub or mobile they were cool with what ever. I submitted a lebron james download game (can't remember what platforom but similar to game vance) and they let that through just fine. It could be because your submitting "Mario" that they are saying you don't own the copyrights to "mario" itself.

Try submitting another mighty magoo game that doesn't have a brand associated with it like sonic or mario and see if that works.

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I haven't run anything with them lately but when I was my CTR compared to most place was insanely high. Like bstrd said, find a creative that works and run with it.

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It's monopolized by a couple people right now, sorry guys.

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What type of offers are allowed on Mochi guys?

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anything except...

Tobacco products
Ammunition, firearms, paintball guns, bb guns, or weapons of any kind
Gambling, including without limitation any online casino, sports books, bingo, or poker
Software downloads, freeware, or shareware
Scams, illegal activity and/or illegal contests, pyramid schemes, or chain letters
Uncertified pharmaceutical products and/or products with unsubstantiated medical claims, including diet and juicing products
Adult friend finders or dating sites dating sites of any kind
Adult toys, videos, or other adult products
Web cams or surveillance equipment
Web-based non-accredited colleges that offer degrees
Mobile subscription advertisements of any kind
Inflammatory religious content
Politically religious agendas and/or any known associations with hate, criminal and/or terrorist activities
Alcohol products
Political content that exploits political agendas or uses "hot button" political issues for commercial use regardless of whether the advertiser has a political agenda
Hate speech, whether directed at an individual or a group, and whether based upon the race, sex, creed, national origin, religious affiliation, marital status, sexual orientation or language of such individual or group
Content that advocates against any organization, person, or group of people, with the exception of candidates running for public office
Content that depicts a health condition in a derogatory or inflammatory way or misrepresents a health condition in any way
"Get rich quick" and other money making opportunities that offer compensation for little or no investment, including money making schemes positioned as alternatives to part-time or full-time employment

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I am running a MightyMagoo offer on MochiMedia right now... 300+ clicks so far and no installs... any idea if installs are good/bad to run there?

Thanks

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update 440 clicks 1 conversion FML

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I've ran over 1000 clicks of dif installs and had great 10% CTRs and have got 0 conversions... not sure how others get it to convert.

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I've had a lot more success doing browser games there as opposed to downloads.. Intl countries are worth looking at too. You'd be surprised where they have some volume and the clicks are super cheap.

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My own personal experience with Mochi:
US traffic @ CPM means super high bids and even with a 10% CTR will still be hard to profit (again, with the right offer u can never know).
Intl traffic @ CPM you can get really cheap clicks (4-5c even lower).
Problem - getting the freaking traffic to convert. AS was said here most off the table games you take from your aff network don't really work well (from my experience).
Consider that the demographics of the traffic from Mochi aren't hardcore gamers who care about awesome 3d and 1 million users online on a single server. They play silly low quality flash games. I tried looking for an affiliate with flash games, but all I found is this http://www.fupa.com/. shitty 0.04c payout for all their accepted countries.

Gotta test some facebook game installs on mochi and see how it works.

Any ideas fellas?

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I've been messing with Mochi, and it's not that hard to get tons of clicks especially international, but after testing tons of games and a few other offers, found that conversions are extremely low....

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int can work.....just takes the right creative and the right game.....def use the dynamic variables to learn what is working cat wise too has a big effect on what works and what doesn't

some cat's suck and never seem to convert

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mobile would do wonders there, too bad they dont allow it

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