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02-05-2013 01:54 AM #1 akrtw1 (Member)
My Steps Of Creating A New FB Account - Please advice!

Newest update: Account got locked. Guys don't use your iphone as hotspot to get new ip. This may make FB unhappy.

Hi guys,

I would like to create a new FB account and the following steps are what I am going to do. Please advise if any steps are wrong or unnecessary. Thanks!

1. Buy A Mobile SIM card for internet access, insert it into an iphone, set up personal hotspot from it (for a new HK IP. Spamalot advised me to use HK IP because my credit card is HK based.)

2. Access the internet with my desktop using a USB adapter

3. Go to Facebook, create a new account with new name and new address

4. Add A new credit card as funding source

5. Insert a new mobile phone number to get $250 daily spend instantly

Questions:

1. Can I replace step 1 and 2 buy buying a HK proxy and insert the settings into my browser's (Chrome) setting? If yes, where to buy HK proxy?

2. For my new credit card, does the name of it have to match the name of the FB account name?

3. For my new credit card, can I use the same address & name as the one I used in a previous account that got banned?

I'd appreciate if any experienced FB experts can give me some solid advice!

Thank you.

Edit on 2/6: Account was just banned due to "fraudulent payment activity". This is the final decision made by them after sending them my scanned copy of personal identification document. I think this is due to the fact that I had 2-3 charge failure (coz of insufficient credit card limit) before. Lesson here: make sure your CC has enough money.

I'm going to follow the steps above and create a new account now. Let's see if I can get one without banning in a short period of time!

Second Edit on 2/6: Just created a new FB account following the steps above. And I have $250 daily spend limit so the mobile phone method does work! I will update if the account is stable in these few days.

Third Edit on 2/6: FB account got locked. Please see the screenshot:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/a2cce9235970772

In fact I don't think it is about my advertising. I have just submitted 44 ads after all, though all of them were disapproved instantly.

But I guess it's more about the hotspot issue. Multiple IP login has triggered FB security check and forced me to send an ID copy.

Problem is I have already sent ID copy for my old account. This would be stupid to send them again, right?

Shit, another credit card wasted... don't know if it will be blacklisted by FB.


02-05-2013 03:56 AM #2 timtetra ()

Goddamn I wrote up this nice response and hit reply to thread and it disappeared.

TL;DR version: from many many tests:

your name on your CC doesn't matter, neither does your address. Facebook does do AVS, so make sure your zip code is right. Probably state/region too since it wouldn't make sense if they didn't match up, but I haven't tested this. Obviously make sure all the actual credit card info (number, cvs, etc) are all correct. It's a compliance and inter-departmental nightmare for a company like Facebook to keep a bunch of banned credit card numbers on file to programmatically link them with new registrations etc. It opens the company up to getting hacked needlessly in their more insecure and unhardened points for something that the legal dept at FB simply wouldn't view as something that matters much (a few scumbag affiliates from STM abusing the system and getting new accounts)

Use the hotspot, u can reuse it, and it won't get detected as a proxy, which many public proxies and even some private ones will.


02-05-2013 04:24 AM #3 sandyone (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by timtetra View Post
Goddamn I wrote up this nice response and hit reply to thread and it disappeared.
Beyonce blew out the STMc server.

It's in the back of the bar.


02-05-2013 04:24 AM #4 sandyone (Member)

Do you really start at 250?


02-05-2013 06:18 AM #5 machoman77 (Member)

I would say, Wait for few days before doing this stuff.


02-05-2013 06:44 AM #6 akrtw1 (Member)

@timtetra: thanks for your detailed reply! To sum up,

You can use a new credit card with the same name, address as the old credit card that you used in a banned account before.
Just make sure everything is correct and your zip code must match up with your address.
Using proxies is not good because it is easily detectable by FB.

Am I right?

@sandyone: I read from another STM thread about it. Once you insert your phone number, you can get $250.

@ramgunjal: thanks for the reminder!


02-05-2013 07:36 AM #7 timtetra ()

Yup. But I don't even bother putting the same name address as the old card. I just make stuff up. Like

Name on card: Happy Cow
Address1: 101 Pasteurized Lane
Address2: Shed2
City: New York
State: New York
Zip Code: 10011


02-05-2013 07:49 AM #8 pokersensei (Member)

So using a hotspot and logging in with a different IP all the time is not a problem? Others have said they have gotten account bans by logging in from different locations even within the same city.


02-05-2013 08:00 AM #9 akrtw1 (Member)

Sorry stupid question:

You mean you make up your name and address to FB, right? You are NOT making things up to the bank, right?

Thanks.


02-05-2013 02:52 PM #10 timtetra ()

I personally haven't been using a hotspot as I've been traveling full time, but being that carriers share a huge pool of IP's that geolocate to all over, it's more safe to say that it's more consistent behavior than you creating an account from some random ass IP and then logging in from another non-carrier-based IP.

And akrtw1 obviously yes you make up the info to Facebook... You aren't going to be getting any type of credit card if you make up a fake name and fake address etc to your bank...


02-05-2013 11:29 PM #11 akrtw1 (Member)

Haha sorry. Thanks again timterta. My account was just banned so I can use the steps above to open a new account!


02-06-2013 02:01 AM #12 bigbyte (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by akrtw1 View Post
Haha sorry. Thanks again timterta. My account was just banned so I can use the steps above to open a new account!
Your new $250/Day account?

I am having the same problem. My second account got banned right after uploading the first ad. Not pretty. I had pretty much followed the same steps you have.


02-06-2013 02:08 AM #13 akrtw1 (Member)

Oh that's bad. I am still using it now man. Just upload my first batch and got disapproved. I will tell you guys if the new account is stable.

Yes that's 250.

Btw, do you live in US? People say that it's harder to create an account in the US.


02-06-2013 02:10 AM #14 bigbyte (Member)

Yeah, I am in the US. The second account was about 6 months old. Had a new tracking domain, new dating domain, used a different computer, different IP address, different credit card. Not sure what triggered the immediate ban. And to add insult to injury, got an email over night and they approved my ad. lol


02-06-2013 07:00 AM #15 thomasbhm (Member)

I just lost my account yesterday too so the timing of this post works out well. I'll have to do this with a re-loadable prepaid card so it's good to know that I can use my real details w/ the bank and similar ones for fb. Didn't know about the $250 limit either so that helps, I guess I gotta pick up a "burner" now (learned that from watching the wire lol).


02-06-2013 07:11 AM #16 timtetra ()

Pretty sure FB can detect if your card is a prepaid one -- I'd stick to a real one. Even then, I haven't had 100% success with any one method, usually when u submit your first ad, if you get through you are good. If you get the account locked please send ID, you are done.


02-06-2013 07:16 AM #17 akrtw1 (Member)

@timetera

Any experience with daily ad spend bump? Managed to reach 1k for new accounts?


02-06-2013 07:27 AM #18 thomasbhm (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by timtetra View Post
Pretty sure FB can detect if your card is a prepaid one -- I'd stick to a real one. Even then, I haven't had 100% success with any one method, usually when u submit your first ad, if you get through you are good. If you get the account locked please send ID, you are done.
Hmmm I will give it a shot see what happens. I found one that works for AdCenter so that is the one I planned on trying. I don't have another credit card, and as far as sending them ID... I didn't even get that option. They locked my account after bumping my budget. Never had any failed payments, all the info was legit, I think it had something to do w/ an account that I set up w/ a voucher before and never used. I filled out the form to request a review and they sent me a message saying that closing my account was their final decision.


02-06-2013 07:34 AM #19 timtetra ()

Quote Originally Posted by akrtw1 View Post
@timetera

Any experience with daily ad spend bump? Managed to reach 1k for new accounts?
A lot of people are getting banned when they get bumps, so I've been opting for spending $240/day on new accounts with a phone verification rather than risk getting banned just for more volume. I have an account with more adspend that's one of my personal ones, but I haven't been touching it much lately.


02-06-2013 07:52 AM #20 akrtw1 (Member)

Thanks timetera! So your approach is to have lots of $250 accounts. Sounds good to me coz risk can be diversified. But you will have to change ip every time when you login to a new account right?


02-06-2013 10:49 AM #21 akrtw1 (Member)

Third Edit on 2/6: FB account got locked. Please see the screenshot:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/a2cce9235970772

In fact I don't think it is about my advertising. I have just submitted 44 ads after all, though all of them were disapproved instantly.

But I guess it's more about the hotspot issue. Multiple IP login has triggered FB security check and forced me to send an ID copy.

Problem is I have already sent ID copy for my old account. This would be stupid to send them again, right?

Shit, another credit card wasted... don't know if it will be blacklisted by FB.


02-06-2013 04:34 PM #22 2modest (Member)

by hotspot are you referring to mobile ips (tethering?) what kind of ips are you using instead? proxies?


Quote Originally Posted by timtetra View Post
I personally haven't been using a hotspot as I've been traveling full time, but being that carriers share a huge pool of IP's that geolocate to all over, it's more safe to say that it's more consistent behavior than you creating an account from some random ass IP and then logging in from another non-carrier-based IP.

And akrtw1 obviously yes you make up the info to Facebook... You aren't going to be getting any type of credit card if you make up a fake name and fake address etc to your bank...


02-07-2013 12:27 AM #23 akrtw1 (Member)

No. All I did is turning on my personal hotspot and use my iphone's 4g plan as internet connection.


02-07-2013 01:04 AM #24 bigbyte (Member)

Sorry to hear about account being locked. Man, that sucks.


02-07-2013 01:14 AM #25 doppelganger (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by akrtw1 View Post
I have just submitted 44 ads after all, though all of them were disapproved instantly.
You created 44 ads on a brand new account? 44 straight disapprovals on a brand new account alone could get you banned. I usually go with a safe ad direct linked to the site (so I don't burn a domain) and wait for approval. If the account is still good to go then I'll create a couple more variations of my safe ad. If those get approved then I'll try and start submitting some real ads. I would try and ease into it. I don't think a lot of new advertisers are uploading 40-50 ads on their first day.

... just a suggestion

-Aaron


02-07-2013 01:37 AM #26 akrtw1 (Member)

Thanks bigbyte and doppelganger!

I will have my last fight with Facebook today. Perhaps Facebook is really being strict these few days. If my last attempt fails, I will move to another traffic source. Not that I want to give up, just that I only have 1 credit card left. So before I have my new credit card arrived, I'd have to move!

I will detail my fight in another thread!


02-07-2013 05:22 PM #27 alienwoo (Member)

Dude - you can't use your mobile hotspot for your accounts. I can't believe no one has brought this up yet, your IP will constantly be rotating / changing. It's very important your IP is always the same, especially with new accounts. Your best bet is to use a Windows VPS & logging into it via RDC. One VPS per account keeps your IP / footprint consistent. You logging in via your hotspot is silly, your computer still has flash cookies, cookies and other things that track your use across accounts and keep getting you banned.

Sorry no one brought that up to you yet man, coulda saved you a lot of hassle.

Let us know how it goes,
Cheers

edit: you can also use a bidding platform / buying platform that you load your accounts into and always connect through their portal..but that's expensive and you're just starting out, so you probably don't want to go that route.


02-07-2013 07:52 PM #28 partner (Member)

Anyone noticing unusually long time to get ads approved in past day or two? some ads are pending for 48 hours


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