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01-30-2013 06:14 PM #1 jjrich (Member)
SEO Companies YOU recommend

I am looking for good for SEO companies that have gotten you results.

Please recommend any you have used?


01-30-2013 07:47 PM #2 thomasbhm (Member)

fiverr


01-30-2013 10:45 PM #3 butthole (Member)

honestly i'd recommend not even attempting SEO. It's constantly changing and it's a huge headache. Most of the companies / service providers don't know what they're doing either.


01-30-2013 11:19 PM #4 zealous (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by thomasbhm View Post
fiverr
Lol.


01-30-2013 11:21 PM #5 seitzy12 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by butthole View Post
honestly i'd recommend not even attempting SEO. It's constantly changing and it's a huge headache. Most of the companies / service providers don't know what they're doing either.
Couldn't of said it better myself, SEO used to be an easy game but unless you have a huge budget you're going to get no where now. Never waste money on a SEO company.


01-30-2013 11:56 PM #6 thomasbhm (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by zealous View Post
Lol.
It's the truth! I've had great luck w/ some fiverr gems. I've also spent around $1,000 on fiverr gigs at which point it no longer becomes a money saving venture .


01-31-2013 12:15 AM #7 zealous (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by thomasbhm View Post
It's the truth! I've had great luck w/ some fiverr gems. I've also spent around $1,000 on fiverr gigs at which point it no longer becomes a money saving venture .
If you're buying anything other than a few select video SEO services on fiverr (e.g. traffic geyser distribution)......... you can get fucked bro. They care nothing of their footprint.

edit: Although it should be said you won't really be "fucked" the links can just be deindexed... Negative SEO is basically a myth.


01-31-2013 12:44 AM #8 panthary (Member)

I wouldn't bother with SEO any more, unless, you're actually creating a decent website, i.e. long term venture 2+ years or you are targeting very low volume keywords. Easy affiliate cash is much harder to come-by in the SEO world these days.

Negative SEO is not a myth. When Google started sending "Unnatural Link Warnings" in Google WMT, a lot of webmasters did Case Studies showing that websites can be crushed as a result of bad links.

Here's one of the more famous examples: http://trafficplanet.com/topic/2369-...e-seo-results/

So Ffiver links can destroy your rankings (they're cheap for a reason).


01-31-2013 06:48 AM #9 peanut (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jjrich View Post
Please recommend any you have used?
I had good results with rankpay.com and still have a few pages with them. After penguin update most pages lost their rank but trust factor still works and if you have a high converting niche it makes sense invest in good content

Even after ranking drop I have constant sales here and there so in my opinion SEO isn't dead and never will until google search is free.


01-31-2013 11:46 AM #10 caurmen (Administrator)

So Ffiver links can destroy your rankings (they're cheap for a reason).
It's worth noting that the new Google Disavow Links tool can help if you do get hit by negative SEO badness. There have been a couple of compelling case studies showing that it can really sort out a linkspam problem.

Having said that, I'd agree with everyone else here. SEO isn't a quick win any more. If you're making an authority site and you're prepared to invest a year in it, there's still good money to be made, but artificial rank inflation is much harder these days.


01-31-2013 08:12 PM #11 grassr00ts (Member)

i would love to see some links to what u think are good examples of using the disavow


01-31-2013 08:18 PM #12 caurmen (Administrator)

Here's two I saw recently:

Dealing with a non-profit that had used foolish SEO techniques
Fixing VoucherSeeker's manual penalty

A lot of people were dubious about it around the time it was launched (including SEOMoz), but subsequently there are enough success stories out there to have some credibility.

However, obviously, if you don't have white-hat links to begin with it won't help you, so it's really not a tool for swift SEO in 2013.


02-02-2013 05:54 AM #13 zealous (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by panthary View Post
Negative SEO is not a myth. When Google started sending "Unnatural Link Warnings" in Google WMT, a lot of webmasters did Case Studies showing that websites can be crushed as a result of bad links.

Here's one of the more famous examples: http://trafficplanet.com/topic/2369-...e-seo-results/

So Ffiver links can destroy your rankings (they're cheap for a reason).
LOL! Hadn't seen the Dan Thies case study, only some that had failed. Yeah it would seem 1mil+ links diluting your anchor text could effect it, and as much as I hate the idea of disavow it would seem in cases like this it is necessary.


02-06-2013 08:52 PM #14 the night fox (Member)

I was testing out an SEO company that was charging me $600 a month. I was looking to automate my SEO but at that price I really don't think it's worth it when it can all be taken away so quickly. However, the company stupidly included the name of the guy they outsource all their work to so now I can get it done for a fraction of the price. I moved up from second to first but it's hard to say if it was due to their link building or if it was algorithmic as I was previously ranked first. Anyway, the company they were outsourcing their work to is http://www.subashseo.com/.

I should add that he did a press release for me and it was shockingly bad, like barley English. I would only use him for link building.


02-06-2013 09:50 PM #15 thomasbhm (Member)

I think the trick is to promote second tier sites, not your own website. Then you don't have to worry about negative factors and you get to piggy back on their high PR and trustworthiness. If you look at the pill pushers you will see this type of plan in action. Then you just link to your site from the second tier pages.

If you spent any time in the BH world, what I'm talking about is similar to the concept of building links to your greyhat pages and linking those to your white hat (money site). Now replace greyhat with web 2.0, social sites etc and you have the same formula still working to this day.

I think where people get confused is they think they have to rank THEIR website in the top of the SERPS, when really they just need the traffic from a top ranking.


02-06-2013 10:00 PM #16 zealous (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by thomasbhm View Post
I think the trick is to promote second tier sites, not your own website. Then you don't have to worry about negative factors and you get to piggy back on their high PR and trustworthiness. If you look at the pill pushers you will see this type of plan in action. Then you just link to your site from the second tier pages.

If you spent any time in the BH world, what I'm talking about is similar to the concept of building links to your greyhat pages and linking those to your white hat (money site). Now replace greyhat with web 2.0, social sites etc and you have the same formula still working to this day.

I think where people get confused is they think they have to rank THEIR website in the top of the SERPS, when really they just need the traffic from a top ranking.
Yup. We've done this with incredible results recently. I keep my money site link profiles cleaner than my dick these days.

Cheers.

ps You can and should still link web 2.0's to your money site. Throw up 1 or 2 (or 10) of these with unique content and obviously black hat links to em, web 2.0 domain filters the link juice, what's left flows to your site as clean as can be. Think of it as laundering your link juice. Shit works.


02-06-2013 10:10 PM #17 thomasbhm (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by zealous View Post
ps You can and should still link web 2.0's to your money site. Throw up 1 or 2 (or 10) of these with unique content and obviously black hat links to em, web 2.0 domain filters the link juice, what's left flows to your site as clean as can be. Think of it as laundering your link juice. Shit works.
Exactly! That's what I was getting to about the grey hat to white hat links... like you said the 2.0 sites launder them for you. That gives you the traffic from those top rankings without worrying about ruining your money pages.

I'm getting into this a bit more lately too... another key thing to remember is to build up properties that are more evergreen. I've made the mistake of promoting offer specific things to the top of the SERPS only to lose the offer.


02-06-2013 10:16 PM #18 zealous (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by thomasbhm View Post
Exactly! That's what I was getting to about the grey hat to white hat links... like you said the 2.0 sites launder them for you. That gives you the traffic from those top rankings without worrying about ruining your money pages.

I'm getting into this a bit more lately too... another key thing to remember is to build up properties that are more evergreen. I've made the mistake of promoting offer specific things to the top of the SERPS only to lose the offer.
Yup this is why I don't promote launches anymore. I'll take $60/day year round over a $10k week every single time.


02-07-2013 02:33 PM #19 caurmen (Administrator)

The second-tier site approach is very similar to the one that Pat Flynn has been advocating for years - and still is, so it must have survived OK!

For anyone interested in reading more about that, here's the link: http://www.smartpassiveincome.com/th...gy-that-works/ .

It was written in 2010, so there's a few bits and pieces I wouldn't do (notably I'd avoid article directories like the plague these days).


02-12-2013 12:57 PM #20 moneycometh (Member)

Hi,

I can help you out if needed. Here is my service http://nuclearlinkage.com.

My strategy is quite simple. Run powerful links direct to money site within panda/penguin guidelines or if your not comfortable with that, run them through buffer sites.

I can custom tailor a strategy for your properties and take at least 20% of for members of this forum.

Maybe pm me your site(s) and let me know what your goal is over the next 6 months or so if you want?

Let me know if I can be of any help.

Regards,

Tai


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