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01-16-2013 07:28 AM #1 trust93 (Member)
I Admit It. I Need Help & Motivation

Fellow Stackers,

I have been having bad luck with everything lately.

Ever since December 2012 I have been losing a little each day. I was hoping January would bring me some profit but it did not so far.

I have been launching multiple campaigns in the diet vertical. I have several campaigns that I know are profitable because I made some good money with them and others are running the same thing. When December hit, Every campaign that I launched lost money.

I swallowed my pride and went to a couple friends to ask for help. They checked my files, my LP, my links and my server and everything was fine. I even took a campaign that he is running currently to copy it and I was able to get it live.

Unfortunately that campaign did not make me any money and is losing to this day. I copied everything EXACTLY the same and it's not working. I left it running for about 3 weeks now and my epc is very stable at less than half of what everybody else is seeing.

I recently switched to Beyond Hosting so hosting cannot be the problem, My CTR's on FB are amazing, But my Conversion Rates are the lowest I have ever seen. I have tested multiple LPs, offers, adcopies but nothing is changing.

I AM NOT GIVING UP

But I am having the worst time of my life. What would you do in my place ??


01-16-2013 10:22 AM #2 redrummr (Member)

Test the offer via another network. Not sure, but you might be getting scrubbed... Is your friend's campaign set up with the same offer you were running?


01-16-2013 04:10 PM #3 trust93 (Member)

same network, same offer...

I just tested a different network and the results were even worse


01-16-2013 07:57 PM #4 redrummr (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by trust93 View Post
same network, same offer...

I just tested a different network and the results were even worse
Try a different offer. If that company has been receiving shitty leads from anybody, they might be scrubbing everyone. Is your friend running his campaign at a profit? You realise, if you say that you ran the exact same campaign, exact same offer and network as your friend, and the results were worse... then there's something about our reputation on the network(s).

Run your friend's affiliate link and then, logically, you should be doing as good as he is. If so, it might take some time before you can investigate this properly, contact the right people and bring up a very touchy subject.

Similar stuff has happened to some of my mates. Advertisers (not CPA networks) right now are dealing with their new year's resolutions... "more profit by xx/xx/xx" etc. They might be scrubbing everyone unless lead quality is out of this world. And it takes time to get a rep for superb lead quality.


01-16-2013 09:04 PM #5 sandyone (Member)

Once a week go to the BMW showroom and sit inside one.

Then envision the pride of getting one for your mom, GF or self!


01-17-2013 11:14 PM #6 RohailRizvi (Member)

Get in touch with Beyond Hosting and make sure your server hasn't been compromised. This happens more than you would think and can slow down your page load speeds without you knowing.

Also, what level of hosting do you have at BH vs what your friends have? That could be making the difference depending on where you're advertising.


01-18-2013 01:01 AM #7 maynzie (Moderator)

But I am having the worst time of my life. What would you do in my place ??
Worst time of your life? Big call man, if you don't enjoy the process it takes to make it in this game, its seriously not for you man because you have to have trust in the process that you will make money. Also if you directly copy camp for camp, you won't make money, its as simple as that

Everyone of us has dry spells, but if you've had profitable campaigns before you know this game does work, and if you had a chance to see ASW you would know for a fact that this industry is incredibly lucrative. Hang in there, get ya hosting sorted and maybe try a new vertical, this games about change and adaptation


01-18-2013 03:34 AM #8 trust93 (Member)

Those guys are with Hostgator while I'm with Beyond hosting... And I have checked my server multiple times and everything seems to be working fine..

Also maynzie I would say that they copied my campaign. I was the first one out of all of them to request the offer and to get it live. My first time running that campaign I was seeing average results. After getting banned my friends started up that campaign and got it going. (probably saw my ad on a spy tool) After I got it live again I started going through all of this bullsh!t. So I copied theirs just in case I was making some kind of mistake somewhere.

UPDATE:
I tested my campaign on my friend's server and then I launched a different adcopy on my server... This time I received no conversions at all. With the amount of clicks I got to the offer I should have gotten at least 6 - 8 leads.. I officially give this campaign up and I am starting on a new one

THIS IS NOT WORTH MY TIME ANYMORE!!


01-18-2013 07:14 AM #9 doryphoros (Member)

Dude take a week off, then come back with something completely new. New network, new ideas, new attitude, everything. It seems like you're making a lot of excuses for why you can't do this. You're caught up in a negative mindset. This campaign obviously isn't working, so fuck it, on to the next one. Maybe the advertiser didn't like YOUR leads, so they're scrubbing YOU, regardless of what server you're hosting LPs on.

Drop this campaign like it's hot and you're snoop dogg, then take a week off from everything, then just come back refreshed.

Get a fresh perspective. Quit thinking of reasons why this or that doesn't or will not work. Talk to someone (girlfriend, close friend, sibling) about your campaigns/ideas, and see what they suggest. Some of the best suggestions for ads, campaigns to look for etc. have come from people in my life who know literally nothing about aff marketing. Sometimes when you get stuck in a negative rut, you block your own creativity and close your mind to ideas that would actually work. Sometimes an outside/unbiased/unadulterated perspective is just what you need.

When you come back, make a list of every single variable that could be fucking you up (everything from not hosting lps on a cdn (losing clicks), to bad translations (if you're running intl), to adv scrubbing, and eliminate every single variable until you know that nothing is holding you back and it's all about your ads/lps/traffic/offers and your own mindset, then just kill it.


01-18-2013 07:42 AM #10 thomasbhm (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by doryphoros View Post
It seems like you're making a lot of excuses for why you can't do this. You're caught up in a negative mindset. This campaign obviously isn't working, so fuck it, on to the next one.
I was thinking the exact same thing! A common thread I see among people who aren't having success in IM is to come up with excuses... you see it all the time... a laundry list of reasons why something can't work, or isn't working. Don't get caught up in why things are failing and start focusing on how you can make something work. It's easy to get fixated, but it kills productivity.


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