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How do top affiliates find profitable campaigns? (23)

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Hi stackers!

This question is for top affiliates, who we have a lot in this forum:

Method 1: Do you guys try whatever ideas that come to your mind with a low budget and scale what works

OR

Method 2: Do a lot of research first and find the offer and demo you want to promote. Set a high budget, test a lot of ads and landers until it works?

So for method 1, the chance of finding a profitable campaign is like 20-40% but for the second one although a campaign is not profitable at first, you will not give it up and will try to make it work.

Any input will be greatly appreciated!

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I tend to look for the traffic, then find the offer to fit it.

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Thanks Joshogle!

Seems that your method is talking about PPV, media buys where each site has its own demographic. You have to research about the traffic of a particular site before running any campaign.

But how about social traffic where you can just choose your demo? Like FB and POF?

Thanks!

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Cough Cough Cough

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I'm in the same style as Josh.

But sometimes I come across a good offer as well that just works on a lot of sources. And scale from there. It can really happen either way.

But the key is looking for things with good scale.

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Learn to find cheap traffic sources, then match them with scalable offers that appeal to a very large demographic.

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So long as I can scale it, I test it.

Set a goal to start up a new campaign every week until you find a winner, scale, rinse and repeat.

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good thread, so where do you start when looking for traffic sources ? do you have a set demo in mind or just get inspiration from somewhere else ?

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Thanks for your input. It seems that you guys gear towards the second method. I'll try to wrap it up:

Top affiliates do research and find a scalable offer and focus on it. Test different ideas and angles to make it work then scale it.

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nice one, but before we wrap it up I'm interested on a couple of pointers on how to go about finding new traffic sources ?

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Do reverse engineering. Become a student of ads. Every ad you notice, click on that bitch or at least hover over it and notice the url (depending on browser) in lower left hand corner. It will usually be the ad network. If it's not, get yourself a plugin that takes a peak at the http headers during multiple redirects. That's a sure fire method of finding the ad network + affiliate networks.

Reverse engineer, my friend.

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lovely, that is the kind of pointers I was looking for.

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Here's a few

For firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/fir...-http-headers/

For chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...nbcdddbg?hl=en

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I might as well join you for a cough:P

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Be sure to turn your head when you cough! haha

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Yep I'm the same finding a nice source first, then shaping a campaign around it.

The more original your technique for finding traffic sources, the more likely your campaigns will last more than a few weeks.

If you follow the same techniques that every other affiliate is using to find traffic sources then you won't escape the flock.

It's surprisingly how many affiliates won't move to a new traffic source until they are proven. Even at conferences a lot won't bother talking to new sources, because they haven't heard of them before.

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Another vote for finding the big traffic first and then shooting shit at the wall until something sticks.

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Lovely, I think I need to keep a look out. great info guys.

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Mr. Green, when you say the "same technique" do you mean that affiliates are always afraid to test new sources?

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I also vote for finding traffic before offer. But because most of the time image CTR is the key, you can also do this:

Find wicked but compliant image -> find out if you can target a niche on FB with it -> testing -> monetization.

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Reverse engineering is the way to go.. SPY SPY SPY!

Browse around the web, click on all the ads you see & just see where the traffic is coming from and what networks the offers are running on.

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Agreed, however the real challenge is working out how and where to find the sites with the ads in the fastest possible time.

In the past I have done it on a keyword by keyword basis, using search strings in Google.

Say for example the keyword "dog training", enter in Google then look at the top ten sites and ads. However it is a long process. It works, and I am right now running a small media buy on a site using that exact method.

I think there is a smarter and quicker way though...

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^^

That's where tools like WhatRunsWhere & Mixrank come in handy!

(Hiring a indian or Philippine programmer will also do the trick!)

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